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Peerzy
02-21-2004, 12:13 AM
board is 'quite' and by quite i mean very slow so i thought i wod break out some misc questions that iv been pondering over so here's one of them:

i have 2 sticks of RAM

a 256mb of Samsung pc2100


and a Nayse (i think or something like that) stick of pc2700

is the samsung stick bringing the Nayse stick and my pc's overall speed down because of its slowness?

clocker
02-21-2004, 12:27 AM
Yuppers.

Remove the PC 2100 and let the PC2700 fly.

Peerzy
02-21-2004, 12:41 AM
right now i cant afford another stick of PC2700 so should i just leave in the slower stick?
also its samsung so isnt it the better of the two sticks as in brand wise?

should i take out the slow stick and have 256mb's o RAM or have 512mb's o RAM but having one fast one being slowed down by one slow one?

johnboy27
02-21-2004, 12:44 AM
I had one stick of Hynix PC2100 512mb DDR.I sold it and bought a stick of Kingston PC3200 256 mb DDR. My computer is only slightly slower now than it was.The only time I notice is while playing a game or something like that.I plan on buying another stick in the near future though.It will be a matching stick of Kingston ram also.

RGX
02-21-2004, 12:45 AM
Take out the 2100. A machine only goes as fast as its slowest part, so if you put a 2100 stick in, the 2700 cant go any faster than 2100. Waste of memory, unless you desperatley need a huge amount.

Livy
02-21-2004, 01:19 AM
:o OMG!!! i cant beleive anyone hasn't even asked what board or cpu he has to see if the thing can even run at pc2700

edit: from your other post i see you have a duron,. so im guessing your fsb is 266. so id say leave boith stick in. :D

Peerzy
02-21-2004, 01:23 AM
WO WO WO WO....


okay its a brand new mother board

i have a program that tells me EVERYTHING about my hard ware so i'll post some of that in a mo.

Peerzy
02-21-2004, 01:26 AM
here is some stuff about my computer:

CPU

CPU Properties
CPU Type AMD Duron XP, 1659 MHz (6.25 x 265)
CPU Alias Applebred
CPU Stepping B0
L1 Code Cache 64 KB
L1 Data Cache 64 KB
L2 Cache 64 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)

CPU Physical Info
Package Type 453 Pin PGA
Package Size 4.95 cm x 4.95 cm
Process Technology 6Mi, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu
Core Voltage 1.5 V
I/O Voltage 1.6 V
Typical Power 45.5 - 53.0 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 57.0 W (depending on clock speed)

CPU Manufacturer
Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Produc...,30_118,00.html (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html)

CPU Utilization
CPU #1 0 %

Problems & Suggestions
Problem Most 3D games run better with at least 256 KB L2 cache.


MotherBoard

Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 10/24/2003-KM400-6A6LYAW9C-00
Motherboard Name Unknown

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type DEC Alpha EV6
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 265 MHz
Bandwidth 2124 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type DDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 265 MHz
Bandwidth 2124 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type VIA V-Link
Bus Width 8-bit
Real Clock 66 MHz (ODR)
Effective Clock 531 MHz
Bandwidth 531 MB/s


SAMSUNG RAM

Memory Module Properties
Module Name Samsung M3 68L3223DTL-CB0
Serial Number 080E25AEh
Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed PC2100 (133 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (7.5 ns @ 133 MHz)
2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.0 (10.0 ns @ 100 MHz)

Memory Module Features
Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer
Company Name Samsung
Product Information http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/DRAM/index.htm


NANYA RAM

Memory Module Properties
Module Name Nanya M2U25664DS88A0G-6
Serial Number None
Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed PC2700 (166 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (6.0 ns @ 166 MHz)
2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.0 (7.5 ns @ 133 MHz)

Memory Module Features
Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer
Company Name Nanya Technology Corp.
Product Information http://www.nanya.com/e-htm/abc/abc-03.htm


CHIPSET

Chipset Properties
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8378 UniChrome KM400
In-Order Queue Depth 4
CAS Latency 2.5T

Integrated Graphics Controller
Graphics Controller Type VIA/S3 UniChrome
Graphics Controller Status Disabled

Memory Slots
DRAM Slot #1 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)

AGP Properties
AGP Version 3.05
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x
Current AGP Speed 8x
Fast-Write Not Supported
Side Band Addressing Supported, Enabled

Chipset Manufacturer
Company Name VIA Technologies, Inc.
Product Information http://www.via.com.tw/en/apollo/chipsetindex.jsp
Driver Download http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2



wow thats alot of crap :blink: :rolleyes:

mr. nails
02-21-2004, 04:24 AM
(pulls the neck of his shirt to the side) :fear2: time to upgrade EVERYTHING!

tesco
02-21-2004, 04:34 AM
since pc2100 ram runs at 266mhz and the front sidebus of your processor is 266mhz you wont be loosing any speed at all by using the pc2100 ram. unless you are going to overclock, i say leave the ram in.

Virtualbody1234
02-21-2004, 04:54 AM
Yup, I have to agree. Leave both sticks in.

I also have to ask... Why did you buy PC2700 RAM in the first place?

Smurfette
02-21-2004, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@21 February 2004 - 04:54
Yup, I have to agree. Leave both sticks in.

I also have to ask... Why did you buy PC2700 RAM in the first place?
Always buy the fastest RAM you can fit, to minimise what you need to replace when you upgrade 'by installments'.

ck-uk
02-21-2004, 08:32 AM
I mate its pointless you having that 2700 ram only for the 256 of mem,You may as well give it to me.


well you could keep it for when you get a better cpu :)

Peerzy
02-21-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@21 February 2004 - 04:54
Yup, I have to agree. Leave both sticks in.

I also have to ask... Why did you buy PC2700 RAM in the first place?
i must confess.

i brought it before i new about ram speeds

and i got it dirt cheap as well. £20 ;)