Set Up A Broadband Network

[Wizzandabe]

how do i link 2 pc's together will i need 2 of these or only 1

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/in...oduct_uid=39120 (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=39120)


or will i need 2 of these or just 1

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/in...oduct_uid=39171 (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=39171)

or none or a mizture.

[cavalryscout]

You only need one router, check your help files under network connections, it even gives you pics to go by. Depending on which setup you choose the number of network cards can be different, but they are alot cheaper than the router.

[M|k0r]

I have a network sharing broadband between 3 pcs in my house, I have a pc in my room that shares the connection from downstairs in my study...

The thing i cannot work is that i cannot send files through MSN messenger OR Dcc send them through Mirc...

Does any1 know how i can solve this problem??

Any help would be appreciated

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by wizzandabe@6 March 2003 - 21:52
how do i link 2 pc's together will i need 2 of these or only 1

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/in...oduct_uid=39120 (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=39120)


or will i need 2 of these or just 1

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/in...oduct_uid=39171 (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=39171)

or none or a mizture.
I cannot be bothered looking at these links, so I will just answer the question, as I understand it.

If you want to share a broadband connection between various computers the best way to do it is by using a router. It can be done using one of the PCs but that isn't worth the bother.

Get a router. Connect it to your cable modem (it isn't actually a modem, but most people call it that so it's simpler) then connect your PCs to the router. It really is that simple. The router shares the bandwidth betwen the PCs. It also acts as a hardware NAT firewall. It is the ideal solution.

My particular network uses PCs connected to the router by cables. In addition to a wireless connection for the bosses laptop. So she can do the browsing thing anywhere she wants.

If I can set it up then anyone can. I am a total luddite.

If I didn't understand the question then please accept my apologies. The apple is strong with me.

[Supernatural]

Your ISP has to assign additional IP's for every extra computer (usually at a cost). Contact your ISP for details.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Supernatural@8 March 2003 - 10:18
Your ISP has to assign additional IP's for every extra computer (usually at a cost). Contact your ISP for details.
Not where I come from.

There is a dynamic IP for the modem. The router deals with requests from the machines. There is only one connection to the WAN, but three on the LAN. Each of the PCs behaves as if it were connected directly.

There is no additional charge, all they are supplying me with is bandwidth on a single IP. I chose to share that locally. In all honesty we cannot tell when someone else is using the connection, because there is spare bandwidth any.

["The Avatar Man"]

Originally posted by JmiF+7 March 2003 - 01:39--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JmiF @ 7 March 2003 - 01:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--wizzandabe@6 March 2003 - 21:52
how do i link 2 pc&#39;s together will i need 2 of these or only 1

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/in...oduct_uid=39120 (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=39120)


or will i need 2 of these or just 1

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/in...oduct_uid=39171 (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=39171)

or none or a mizture.
I cannot be bothered looking at these links, so I will just answer the question, as I understand it.

If you want to share a broadband connection between various computers the best way to do it is by using a router. It can be done using one of the PCs but that isn&#39;t worth the bother.

Get a router. Connect it to your cable modem (it isn&#39;t actually a modem, but most people call it that so it&#39;s simpler) then connect your PCs to the router. It really is that simple. The router shares the bandwidth betwen the PCs. It also acts as a hardware NAT firewall. It is the ideal solution.

My particular network uses PCs connected to the router by cables. In addition to a wireless connection for the bosses laptop. So she can do the browsing thing anywhere she wants.

If I can set it up then anyone can. I am a total luddite.

If I didn&#39;t understand the question then please accept my apologies. The apple is strong with me. [/b][/quote]
I have been unable to do thid no matter how gard i&#39;ve tried :(
and yes the apple is strong in you :P

[Wizzandabe]

you say cables. what type. and how do i connect it to the pc. will i still need my adsl modem. (bt voyager adsl usb)

[ezyryder]

I have five PC&#39;s using my broadband connection. All pcs of course use a hub. What i did was install 2 NIC (network cards) into one pc. This saves money on a router. Anyway, leave one network card connected to your modem as a static (no information). Now set up your network card first (the second one in your pc)

give it a number such as: 192.168.0.1 and the Subnet Mask as 255.255.255.0 (It will fill that out automatically however).

Now for the second person, they will need to repeat the process by right clicking on "my network places" then right clicking and selecting properties on the icon that represents your network card. Then click on the internet protocol for TCP/IP then you get to the same place again.

this time give the second pc the number 192.168.0.2 (everytime you add a new pc change the very last number by one). Add the subnet mask as 255.255.255.0 again, but this time you have to add a gateway. so where it says "default gateway" just add the persons IP (192.168.0.1) who has the modem connected to them, and do the same for "preffered dns server" as well.

Now sharing the internet across the networks (this is with XP) is extremely easy, just right click on the network properties for the network card that represents the one the modem is connected to and follow these instructions


1. right click on the network card which represents your pc and select properties.
2. select the advanced tab
3. click the check box beside the text "allow other network users to connect through this computer&#39;s internet connection" (make sure u don&#39;t have it to allow others to change ur intenet settings)


this is a very badly and quickly written explanation, if you would like me to make it better with pictures to illustrate what I mean then i shall.

[ezyryder]

I have five PC&#39;s using my broadband connection. All pc&#39;s of course use a hub. What i did was install 2 NIC (network cards) into one pc. This saves money on a router. Anyway, leave one network card connected to your modem as a static (no information). Now set up your network card first (the second one in your pc)

give it a number such as: 192.168.0.1 and the Subnet Mask as 255.255.255.0 (It will fill that out automatically however).

Now for the second person, they will need to repeat the process by right clicking on "my network places" then right clicking and selecting properties on the icon that represents your network card. Then click on the internet protocol for TCP/IP then you get to the same place again.

this time give the second pc the number 192.168.0.2 (everytime you add a new pc change the very last number by one). Add the subnet mask as 255.255.255.0 again, but this time you have to add a gateway. so where it says "default gateway" just add the persons IP (192.168.0.1) who has the modem connected to them, and do the same for "preffered dns server" as well.

Now sharing the internet across the networks (this is with XP) is extremely easy, just right click on the network properties for the network card that represents the one the modem is connected to and follow these instructions


1. right click on the network card which represents your pc and select properties.
2. select the advanced tab
3. click the check box beside the text "allow other network users to connect through this computer&#39;s internet connection" (make sure u don&#39;t have it to allow others to change ur intenet settings)


this is a very badly and quickly written explanation, if you would like me to make it better with pictures to illustrate what I mean then i shall.

[4play]

buy yourself

1) a router or build one from an old pc
2) 2 nic cards 100 mbps prefered.
3) 2 cat5 utp straight cable of the length you require

plug you broadband connection into the router
plug in the nic cards and run the un-twisted cat 5 utp to the router.

simple

the hub is not really needed unless you have a lot of pc&#39;s. they are only really usefull to seperate a large network into blocks.

im doing cisco training at the moment so im gonna try a bit of home networking very soon.

[brownaznkid]

Originally posted by M|k0r@6 March 2003 - 23:22
I have a network sharing broadband between 3 pcs in my house, I have a pc in my room that shares the connection from downstairs in my study...

The thing i cannot work is that i cannot send files through MSN messenger OR Dcc send them through Mirc...

Does any1 know how i can solve this problem??

Any help would be appreciated
you have to forward the ports on your router... your user guide for your router can help you through it.. and as for mIRC or MSN messenger.. go to their respective websites to find the port number

[Wizzandabe]

so,

connect the router to the 2 pc&#39;s using cat5 network cable, and nic&#39;s (network cards).
then config the router

there is a problem. my usb adsl modem (http://www.adsl-business.co.uk/btvoyager.htm)is powered by the usb cable. when i turn my pc off (shutdown) the link light goes out. so if i wnated to surf the net with this pc off. will i still be able to sue the net. (when i install the internet software and drivers will i need to insatll them on my new pc as well) i am realy dumb on thei broadband set up thingy. so sory please could some one help.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by wizzandabe@12 March 2003 - 17:52
so,

connect the router to the 2 pc&#39;s using cat5 network cable, and nic&#39;s (network cards).
then config the router

there is a problem. my usb adsl modem (http://www.adsl-business.co.uk/btvoyager.htm)is powered by the usb cable. when i turn my pc off (shutdown) the link light goes out. so if i wnated to surf the net with this pc off. will i still be able to sue the net. (when i install the internet software and drivers will i need to insatll them on my new pc as well) i am realy dumb on thei broadband set up thingy. so sory please could some one help.
If you use a pc as the "router" (I think it would actually be a Gateway) then that PC has to be on for the other pcs on the network to have access to the internet. It will also drain resources from that PC.

The PC connected to the modem will also be visible to the internet (WAN) so make sure you have good firewall protection.

Using a dedicated router is more secure as it acts as a hardware firewall. It can also be left on all the time, so each individual pc can access the internet independent of the others.

This sort of thing

http://www.linksys.com/Products/product.as...grid=23&prid=20 (http://www.linksys.com/Products/product.asp?grid=23&prid=20)

Very simple to set up and use. I know some people will disagree, however this is a much better solution than a gateway pc and it is much easier to set up.

Just a pity I cant post a sig for one.