My New Overclock

[bigdawgfoxx]

Hey. I had my CPU running at 2.2Ghz FINE...but nah..that aint enough.

I have 400Mhz RAM.

I uped the FSB to 420Mhz...and loosend the timings from 2-2-2-5 to 2-3-3-8.

I now have it running at 2.31Ghz and 46C full load right now...

VCore 1.8

Stock heatsink, with an 80mm fan attached to it.

2 intake, 2 exhaust, 2 in the psu, all blue led 80mm fans.

I wonder how high I can get it...

P.S. This is a kinda pointless thread..but I havnt made one in a WHILE...so I just thought what the hell lol

*ALSO*

I have overclocked my graphics card as you can see pretty good. Everytime I turn off my computer and turn it back on..it resets it...its iritating..Im using rage 3d...is this just something we have to do? Or is there a way I can make it stay?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Aquamark (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=410304152)

Here is my Aquamark3 score after raising the CPU speed over 100Mhz...not much improvment from 40,344.

[kaiweiler]

That's quite a nice size OC you got w/ stock cooling!
I have the same processor, but only OC'ed a bit, I'm waiting till I get some Arctic Silver 5 to apply to it, so it doesn't heat up as bad, then I'll OC some more
but good job!
I'm surprised there wasn't more of a difference in scores though...

[clocker]

BigDawg,
you might want to alter your memory timings a bit more.
I've read that the nVidia nforce 2 chipset likes the tRAS set to 11 instead of the typical 5 to 8.
I know Mushskin recommends 3+3+2=8 as you have done, but many folks (myself included) get a gain in the memory benchies by using 11 instead.
Something weird to do with the basic architecture of the chipset....

[bigdawgfoxx]

alright...ill try 2-3-3-11

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ran burn in test overnight and max temp was 46!

I figure I could keep going, up and up and UP. But my ram is 400Mhz... :(

Also, I'm at 420Mhz right now, I'm sure that stresses the chipset alot, and also the ram... :(

[clocker]

Did you see any improvements in memory benchmarks with the timing I suggested?

[Livy]

i'd like to know about the timings too, ill give it a go soon.

[bigdawgfoxx]

I am at school right now and havnt had a chance to change timings at home, but I will put a SS of before my overclock, after my overclock and loose timings, and after the overclock with looser timings (11) If I go to like 230, will that stress my chipset too much or what?

Bells bout to ring for spanish

[lynx]

I'm not far behind you.

Currently testing 2.26MHz.
Vcore 1.75V nominal, 1.776 reported.
Vdimm 2.7V

Temp currently 50C and still climbing, I'm not sure I really want to push it much further.

[clocker]

Is that 50°c at idle or full load, Lynx?

[lynx]

That's full load (I would be tearing my hair out if it was idle), and it has crept up to 52C now.

Tried it at 1.70V nominal and immediately started getting problems with folding. Everything appears to be ok at 1.75V though.

My ram bandwidth appears to have dropped though, it doesn't seem to make any difference if I use 3-3-3-8 or 3-3-3-11.

Paused folding to test mem bandwidth, temp has dropped to 46C in about 1 minute and still going down.

I think I'll try pushing it a little further to see what I can get out of it, but I will probably drop back to 2.2GHz as a permanent setting.

[clocker]

Yeah, it's fun to see how high you can go, but even the most avid clocker would be foolhardy to run on the ragged edge as a matter of course.

Judging from your avatar, you haven't much hair left to ravage....

[lynx]

Were he still alive, Mr Milligan would have been most upset by that suggestion. He actually had a very good head of hair (unlike me) but it had turned very light in colour. One of our greatest comedians, IMO.

Temp seems to have levelled off at 52C, Folding seems quite happy (been going about an hour now). I'll leave it like this until the morning, then give it the next nudge upwards. At least I know I can drop down and run at about 47C with slightly more conservative settings. And I have to consider what might happen when the weather gets warmer.

[bigdawgfoxx]

I have it running at 210X11 (2300) so 420Mhz FSB and full load at 46C.

I want to up it more but my 400Mhz ram is at 420Mhz and my chipset is getting stressed ALOT (i think)...I really need to unlock the CPU...

The cpu seems to be unlocked.

When I change the multi and the speed, it DOES change the stuff...and leaves the Multi changed to 13 or w/e...the only problem is that when i right click on my computer and click properties..instead of having it at like 2340Mhz...which I would set it at..it would be set at like 2160 or something....so its WIERD..but seems to be unlocked..

[lynx]

I tried changing the multiplier in bios the other day, but it did not seem to have any effect. I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that AMD have blocked whatever Asus were doing, so although the bios says it has changed you have still got the default multiplier.

[mr. nails]

you may know this or not, but if u had some pc3500 in there u would def. get it higher. yeah, i'v heard some really good things about those 2500's. all for $90 at that!

[mr. nails]

Originally posted by lynx@26 February 2004 - 14:43
I tried changing the multiplier in bios the other day, but it did not seem to have any effect. I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that AMD have blocked whatever Asus were doing, so although the bios says it has changed you have still got the default multiplier.
and also, depends on how old that 2500 is. amd started locking them cuz of what ur saying and yes, no matter what ur bios says it will still be locked. unless u know how to unlock the chip by connecting the circuits on top of chip together to unlock it. (something like that)

[lynx]

All the new chips except FX51 are locked, including Bartons, Durons and Thorougbreds. No-one has found ANY way to unlock them so far including wire tricks, jumping bridges etc.

Only processors made before week 35 of 2003 are unlocked. For about the next 7 weeks after that some were locked, some were unlocked. After that all were locked except for a few in week 46.

Source (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=244237)

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by lynx@26 February 2004 - 21:32
All the new chips except FX51 are locked
Lucky me eh? :P

I don't really see why I'd need to OC this thing yet though...

Anyway why are you ocing? A 2500+ is easily enough for every app nowadays, and OCing can have negative effects on your chip. Unless you want to fold faster, I don't see why as yet.

[lynx]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@26 February 2004 - 21:01
Unless you want to fold faster.
Or run games better.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Or get higher benchmarks :D

I have seen sites of where people HAVE unlocked them...why do you say they havnt?

I mean..my chip runs 46C FULL LOAD and 33C idle..those temps are awesome for a 500Mhz overclock..I could keep going...but my ram is 400Mhz..

Say I had awesome ram and had my FSB at 533Mhz, but the board only supports 400Mhz...what would this do to the board?

[tesco]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 February 2004 - 18:47
Or get higher benchmarks :D

I have seen sites of where people HAVE unlocked them...why do you say they havnt?

I mean..my chip runs 46C FULL LOAD and 33C idle..those temps are awesome for a 500Mhz overclock..I could keep going...but my ram is 400Mhz..

Say I had awesome ram and had my FSB at 533Mhz, but the board only supports 400Mhz...what would this do to the board?
feel your chipset to see how hot it is. i know your board doesnt have a fan but it has a large heatsync, maybe it would benefit from a fan being attached to it.

[lynx]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 February 2004 - 22:47
Or get higher benchmarks :D

I have seen sites of where people HAVE unlocked them...why do you say they havnt?

I mean..my chip runs 46C FULL LOAD and 33C idle..those temps are awesome for a 500Mhz overclock..I could keep going...but my ram is 400Mhz..

Say I had awesome ram and had my FSB at 533Mhz, but the board only supports 400Mhz...what would this do to the board?
They have indeed unlocked them with some of the earlier chips. But they have ALL been locked now unless you've managed to be lucky and get one of the ones that slipped through. The site I quoted explained it all, and they are supposed to be the experts on OCing.

[Livy]

why not get better cooling for the chipset then, if it doesnt have a fan already, fit one. or a bigger heatsink on it.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by lynx@26 February 2004 - 16:32
All the new chips except FX51 are locked, including Bartons, Durons and Thorougbreds. No-one has found ANY way to unlock them so far including wire tricks, jumping bridges etc.

Only processors made before week 35 of 2003 are unlocked. For about the next 7 weeks after that some were locked, some were unlocked. After that all were locked except for a few in week 46.

Source (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=244237)
Wrong. I posted this info a bit ago.

People have found a way to modify the L5, or L6 bridges I believe, to make it show up as a Mobile barton, thus unlocking them, I believe.


And bigdawg, nice overclock, just make sure your not bouncing F@H Units.

Also, as for the multiplier thing, at 220FSB, you probably wouldnt be able to run 13x multiplier anyway, so its not that big of a deal that the processor is locked.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@26 February 2004 - 18:29
People have found a way to modify the L5, or L6 bridges I believe, to make it show up as a Mobile barton, thus unlocking them, I believe.

Thats what I thought too

[lynx]

I decided my temps were a little high so I dropped back to [email protected] nominal (1.70V reported). This was about three hours ago.

Just checked the Folding log file and found that it hadn't been too stable at 2.26GHz anyway, so I suppose this is my limit. Can't say I'm too unhappy though.

[bigdawgfoxx]

My F@H log looks great..no errors 2310Mhz :D I wish I could just unlock it tho..then I could prob get to 2.4

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 February 2004 - 16:41
My F@H log looks great..no errors 2310Mhz :D I wish I could just unlock it tho..then I could prob get to 2.4
Probably not with your lightly modified stock cooling...

[Livy]

it may look good now, but when iwas playing with the fsn on mine, sometimes it would look totally stable, and not crash for up to 12hours, but would crash then. :huh: it got longer and longer as i lowered the fsb, i couldnt be bothered finding a totally stable fsb. just put it back to stock.

[clocker]

I could be wrong Livy ( there is a first time for everything...), but your problem was probably down to the memory.

My understanding is that a chip error manifests itself right away, assuming it will boot into the desktop at all.
Memory errors on the other hand, can take quite a while to show up. Hours, days or even longer.

You might be able to increase stability by either upping your vDIMM, running asynched, or getting faster memory sticks.

Or you could just stay stock....

[Livy]

i have pc2700 ram, nfroce 2 baord and barton 2500, and i had the memory running at 66% of fsb. so i dunno.

edit: also i cant change the vdimm. and i was thinking about getting pc 3200 sticks, but im gonna sort out cooling first.

[clocker]

Oh.
Well then.
I did say I could be wrong...

[Livy]

it may well have been memory then. not sure.

[tesco]

didnt like john lennon or somebody like that post about some little paper thing that you put onto the cpu that touches some of the pins together? is that thing real and where can you buy them? maybe you could try it out bigdawgfoxx.

[lynx]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@27 February 2004 - 02:05
didnt like john lennon or somebody like that post about some little paper thing that you put onto the cpu that touches some of the pins together? is that thing real and where can you buy them? maybe you could try it out bigdawgfoxx.
Third time.

IT DOESN'T WORK ANY MORE.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@26 February 2004 - 22:05
didnt like john lennon or somebody like that post about some little paper thing that you put onto the cpu that touches some of the pins together? is that thing real and where can you buy them? maybe you could try it out bigdawgfoxx.
Lol, pay for a better overclocking, I never did get that.

And livy, I actually the new Speed Strip, (what they are called) will unlock the new AXDA CPU's, (post 39 week '03 cpus that are locked after that time.)

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 February 2004 - 21:38

*ALSO*

I have overclocked my graphics card as you can see pretty good. Everytime I turn off my computer and turn it back on..it resets it...its iritating..Im using rage 3d...is this just something we have to do? Or is there a way I can make it stay?
nice job dawg. as for ur vd card, i recommend radlinker. it's on www.guru3d.com

it lets u set the clocks for boot as well. so when u boot, u boot with the mhz that u set.



1.8v!!?!?!?! and u still get such low temps?!?!?! wow!?!?!? it's like the magic hdd temps i had before. lol

[4th gen]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 February 2004 - 04:14
it's like the magic hdd temps i had before. lol
You're not accusing bigdawg of lying too, are you? :rolleyes:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by 4th gen+28 February 2004 - 00:19--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 28 February 2004 - 00:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@28 February 2004 - 04:14
it&#39;s like the magic hdd temps i had before. lol
You&#39;re not accusing bigdawg of lying too, are you? :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
r u saying i was lying bout those temps? i even showed screenshots of those temps using a prog that clocker recommended as well as speedfan. wat more could u want?

[bigdawgfoxx]

heyy&#33; im durnk but htats gok&#33; i got my friend sover here and im talkimg to some girl but =thanx and ill try that program to set the mhz on boot ABU&#33;

[4th gen]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+28 February 2004 - 05:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 28 February 2004 - 05:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 4th gen@28 February 2004 - 00:19
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@28 February 2004 - 04:14
it&#39;s like the magic hdd temps i had before. lol
You&#39;re not accusing bigdawg of lying too, are you? :rolleyes:
r u saying i was lying bout those temps? i even showed screenshots of those temps using a prog that clocker recommended as well as speedfan. wat more could u want? [/b][/quote]
The difference in room temp and hdd temp was miniscule at most. It&#39;s impossible to cool something to lower than the room temp unless you&#39;re using refrigiration. So, yeah, I&#39;m saying you were wrong. Not necessarily that you were lying though ;)

[bigdawgfoxx]

heloo i thinough ther was a lot of people a on here but thnow its uiet

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by lynx+26 February 2004 - 22:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 26 February 2004 - 22:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@26 February 2004 - 21:01
Unless you want to fold faster.
Or run games better. [/b][/quote]
A 2500+ will run any game today.

[tesco]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 February 2004 - 01:32
heloo i thinough ther was a lot of people a on here but thnow its uiet
oh come one, i can type when im drunk.

[pc-gamer-dude]

he just trying to be a show off... and @bigdawg... get yourself ahold of a thermaltake chipset cooler, and some pc3500 ram. you&#39;ll be able to overclock a little bit further. if you thrown in a thermalright slk947 and a decent 92mm fan you&#39;ll be able to push your overclock to at least 2.5-2.6. but goodluck with your overclocks... and STOP showin off with ur damn drunkness&#33;&#33;&#33;

[bigdawgfoxx]

Well I spent like 130 on my ram...so i really dont wana spend that much again just for a little faster..think i could trade it or something or what?..

sorry bout last night my friend was on the computer for a little while and i think he posted the 2nd one but i posted the first..but i was messed up and it was really hard to see the screen or what i was typing lol

[clocker]

Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude@28 February 2004 - 07:12
he just trying to be a show off... and @bigdawg... get yourself ahold of a thermaltake chipset cooler, and some pc3500 ram. you&#39;ll be able to overclock a little bit further. if you thrown in a thermalright slk947 and a decent 92mm fan you&#39;ll be able to push your overclock to at least 2.5-2.6. but goodluck with your overclocks... and STOP showin off with ur damn drunkness&#33;&#33;&#33;
Gamer,
Where are you getting your results for the Thermalright HS?
On the OC.com forums, MattMolson is doing a direct comparison of the TR HS and his old ( and my current) Zalman 7000.
So far (week one of testing the Thermalright), even with a 92mm Tornado, the temps are identical between the two.

People seem to assume that the SK&#39;s kick ass, but so far, I haven&#39;t seen anyone actually prove it....

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok...Im running at 2310Mhz and my Heatsink is keeping it at 47C Full load...I dont really think i need a new HS...just faster ram..but oh well..its fine how it is i guess

[pc-gamer-dude]

you can pick up some muschin 2-3-3-6 ram pc3500 256mb sticks for about &#036;70 a piece on newegg, sell your current stuff to a friend or on the internet and pick up some of that. shoulc get you closer... if not in the 2.4ghz range. maybe a little farther depending on stability & temperatures.

here is a pretty good little northbridge cooler, im getting one myself soon actually...
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....epa=1&section=3 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-116-005&catalog=62&depa=1&section=3)


@clocker... im getting results from peoples reveiws of stuff theyve managed with the thermalright heatsink. if u have decent cooling, and good ram the barton 2500+ has been pushed into the 2.5-2.6+ range with out to many difficulties. so bigdawg should be able to hit 2.5 without to many problems if he had a better heatsink/fan, and a better northbridge cooler. im not entirely sure where i got tyhe results from, but i know it was from a couple of different forums.

[clocker]

Gamer, read this. (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=270542&perpage=30&pagenumber=38)( about 1/4 down the page...MattMolson).

I agree that BigDawg may benefit from an aftermarket HS. Whether he could achieve the overclock he wants or not is debatable.
My only objection here is the recommendation of the Thermalright heatsink as the be-all-end-all of cpu cooling.
The OC forum is full of folks who have purchased it based on the wildly glowing reviews only to be disappointed.
It IS a good unit, of that there is no doubt, but it&#39;s not better than several other sinks that are cheaper.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Then what is the best HS prob?

[clocker]

I don&#39;t know Dawg, I wish I did.

As you may remember, I&#39;ve spent time badmouthing my Zalman, but haven&#39;t found anything that is appreciably better.
Sure, there are sinks that might give me a 1-3° drop...but is that really worth spending another &#036;50 on?
I can get that by cranking up the Muffins some more...I typically have them running at about 1/3 speed now, just for the quiet.

[mr. nails]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@28 February 2004 - 12:05
Then what is the best HS prob?
i could be wrong, but i don&#39;t believe it&#39;s a hs that was recommended for ur cpu. i believe it was for ur chipset. u keep overclocking that will have some probs too...

[pc-gamer-dude]

well i recommended one for his cpu. but he will most likely benefit from having a better northbridge cooler, like the one i posted earlier.

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 February 2004 - 18:38

I have overclocked my graphics card as you can see pretty good. Everytime I turn off my computer and turn it back on..it resets it...its iritating..Im using rage 3d...is this just something we have to do? Or is there a way I can make it stay?
Big dawg:

If you already have Rage3d tweak installed, then:

type "msconfig" in the "run" box.

Make sure two entries are selected under startup:

1. RegTwk
2. gameutil.exe

After you make sure that these two are indeed checked, then open up the Rage3d tab in the ATi control panel. Expand the Game Util tab. Check the "Apply OC at boot" box.

Now Rage3d will apply the overclock at boot.