Nic Error

[cool skill]

All of a sudden my NIC no longer works.
It's actually integrated into the motherboard.
I only see an amber light and green light in the outlet. Not sure what it means. As far as I know, both should be green.


I have no clue what could have caused this. One moment, I was browsing. The next moment, I was receiving network errors. Then, nothing went on line. None of the browsers, nothing could access the network.


I tried uninstalling the driver in the device manager, and reinstalling it.
I checked the cable, took it out, and put it back.
As of now, the cable is plugged into the NIC.
But the other end is not attached to anything because I took it out of the modem.
(That way, I could set up my USB connection to get back online.)


The computer recognizes when I unplug the cable. The device manager tells me this device is working properly.
I'm at a loss here.

[tesco]

make srue there are no knots or tangles in the cord and that nothing is sitting on top of it that might cuase obstruction.

make sure all the network settings are correct, go into network connections through control panel and right click ur connection then go to properties. click tcp\ip then click properties. make sure obtain ip adress automatically and obtain dns server automaticaly are both checked off.

If still nothing than i guess you could buy a new one, they are really cheap only like $10-$20 canadian.

[Virtualbody1234]

Try another cable.

[delphin460]

um ok confused here

what does your nic connect to if you connect to adsl i presume with the usb connection

[Virtualbody1234]

@delphin460, there are USB and RJ45 type ADSL modems. He probably has the RJ45 type.

http://www.lava.net/support/config/dsl/images/atm-modem.jpg

[cool skill]

Yes I tried another cable, and checked all those tcp/ip settings already. I even formatted my computer.

Normally my NIC connects to my DSL modem.
But the NIC was giving me problems.
I took the NIC cable out of the modem, and hooked the USB cable to my modem and computer.

I've been hooked to my modem with my NIC fine without problems for about a year.

[lynx]

The cable has to be connected at both ends.

The Nic detects another Nic at the other end of the cable (in this case in your modem) so it says the connection is ok. If you disconnect either end of the cable you will get this problem, it is not sufficient to leave it plugged into your Nic and have the other end just floating around.

[cool skill]

Thanks, but even when it is plugged in, I still get the error.

To test it, I can either
A) Plug it into my router, but the router isn't connected to anything
else.

B) Plug it back into my modem even though I have the USB plugged into it. Hopefully, it won't cause any confilcts.

[lynx]

Am I missing something here?

Shouldn't your pc be connected to your router, and the router to the modem. I realise you've connected to your modem via USB to get back online, but what was the setup when it first went wrong?

If it was the way I've suggested, and I suspect it is since you say "none of the browsers, nothing could access the network" (I assume you mean in other computers) then either your nic or your router is faulty. And if other computers have the same problem then it must be your router.

[cool skill]

Thanks. Sorry about the mix up. There is no other computer on my router.

I originally had my NIC set up to go into the router.
Then, a cable went from the router to the LAN outlet in the modem.
(There are two outlets on my modem. One for USB, and one for LAN.)

When the error occured, I took the router away, and did all the troubleshooting with cable plugged directly from the NIC into the modem.

Since I needed to get online, I unplugged the cable from the modem's LAN outlet.
Then I plugged a USB cable into modem's USB outlet and into the USB port on my computer.

All I'm trying to figure out right now is how to get it to work when I plug the cable from the NIC directly into the modem. The browser error says that there was a network error. The light is still amber on my NIC(motherboard LAN outlet).

[atiVidia]

there is a chance that this is a BIOS error but im not too good with networking so...

[lynx]

You need a crossover cable in order to connect directly to the modem.

Routers are normally wired backwards so you don't need a crossover. By cutting out the router you would need to make to crossover in the cable.

[cool skill]

What is a crossover cable?
It's not a regular network cable?
I don't understand what you mean.
Before I got my router, I was connected directly to my modem with the regular network cable fine without any problems.

[lynx]

Did the cable come with the modem? If so, it may be that it was a crossover cable.

It is easy to tell. Get both ends of the cable and put the plugs side by side (with the clip away from you. Look at the colour of the wires inside the plugs. If the order is the same on both plugs you have got a normal cable. If the left hand pair (pins 1&2) are swapped with the middle pair (pins 4&5) you've got a crossover cable.

You may find that the cable which ran from the router to the modem is a crossover cable, and the one from the router to your pc is a normal cable.

[tesco]

my cable modem used to be hooked directly to my pc using a regular cable and is now hooked up to my router with the same regular cable so i dont think they use crossover, unless maybe my modem acts like a switch and can flip the connection so u can use any cable.

edit: hmm i just looked at teh cable again to make sure i wasnt wrong about it being a regular cable and the wires are in order but...there are only 4 of them...my other three cables all have like 8 wires or something like that how come this one only has 4?

[cool skill]

My router came with 2 cables. The LAN and the WAN.
I checked, and found that the WAN cable fits your description for a crossover.
My modem came with one cable, but the wires for that cable have a regular pattern.

[cool skill]

OK. I decided to try setting it up again the way I had it.

When I plug the cable from my NIC to my modem, through some fluke of naure, it works.
I am now online through my NIC despite the fact that the light is still amber. I took the USB cable out.

I'm still having a problem with the router because when I connect from my NIC to the router, and from the router to the modem, it still doesn't work.

[lynx]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@26 February 2004 - 21:32
edit: hmm i just looked at teh cable again to make sure i wasnt wrong about it being a regular cable and the wires are in order but...there are only 4 of them...my other three cables all have like 8 wires or something like that how come this one only has 4?
The base100TX network only uses 4 wires, 2 to transmit and 2 to receive.

Other systems (including gigabit ethernet) use all 8 wires. So 8 wire cables are usually provided for compatibility with all the systems. But the modem suppliers know they only support base100TX so they save a few pennies per modem by only using 4 core cables.

[cool skill]

OK. Everything is working perfectly. The router, modem, and NIC.
The light in the back is still amber.
Is this normal?

[Livy]

Originally posted by cool skill@28 February 2004 - 17:01
OK. Everything is working perfectly. The router, modem, and NIC.
The light in the back is still amber.
Is this normal?
that just usally mean its connected at 100mbs, where as if it was off usually mean 10mbs. :D

soemthing like taht anwyay

[lynx]

Just had a look.

Mine's orange too. :lol: