Linux Radeon 9700 Opengl [Archive]

Boberyno

02-26-2004, 09:24 AM

Alright, this has been bugging the hell out of me for months and I want to fix it once and for all. I'm a relative Linux Newbie and I want to know how I can get the Linux OpenGL drivers to work with my Radeon 9700 Pro. I'm running SuSE 9.0 with Kernel 2.4.21

I've installed the latest drivers, set up fglrx, and yelled at the machine and yet still lack 3D accelleration and have lousy performance on my desktop. Does anyone have a way to solve this problem? I know that Radeon can work in Linux, I've seen it, I just don't know how to do it.

killer04

02-26-2004, 03:24 PM

I am having the same problem with my ati radeon 7500.... I cant even find its official drivers on its site.

shn

02-26-2004, 05:43 PM

3d accelleration is not fully support in Linux yet. You risk the chance of your box hanging and crashing frequently. :)

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 05:46 PM

why U need 3d acceleration on linux anyway? It's not like you can play
COD on it

shn

02-26-2004, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 11:46
why U need 3d acceleration on linux anyway? It's not like you can play
COD on it
I am not a gamer. But if I were I would be playing COD on "linux" :P

What is COD anyway? :huh:

free winex games (http://frankscorner.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=1)

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by shn+26 February 2004 - 17:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn @ 26 February 2004 - 17:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 11:46
why U need 3d acceleration on linux anyway? It's not like you can play
COD on it
I am not a gamer. But if I were I would be playing COD on "linux" :P

What is COD anyway? :huh:

free winex games (http://frankscorner.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=1) [/b][/quote]
Its a game... Call Of Duty ... I dont think you can run it using wine <_<
BTW there's something mysterious about you, are you naturaly cool
or just acting B)

---edit
you can using winex?
damn this nOOb'ness :angry:

killer04

02-26-2004, 06:08 PM

Wait one min, when i am installing Mandrake 9.0, and then when it asks me for my graphic card, i dont see it so i choose just ATI and then when i have already installed it, the graphics get messed up. I have an ATI radeon 7500.

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 06:12 PM

I just need a driver to enable 3d acc. but I dont know wich one to choose

Linux IA32
Latest Version: 1.0-5336
Archive

Linux IA64
Latest Version: 1.0-5336
Archive

Linux AMD64
Latest Version: 1.0-5332
Archive

Free BSD
Latest Version: 1.0-4365

nForce Drivers

Linux IA32 Drivers
Latest Version: 1.0-0261

Linux AMD64 Drivers
Latest Version: 1.0-0269

I have a amd ath xp 2000+
and a nvidia 5600 xt
wich one too choose?

shn

02-26-2004, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by killer04@26 February 2004 - 12:08
Wait one min, when i am installing Mandrake 9.0, and then when it asks me for my graphic card, i dont see it so i choose just ATI and then when i have already installed it, the graphics get messed up. I have an ATI radeon 7500.
You should try Mandrake 9.2. As distributions progress they have newer versions of Xfree86 and newer graphic cards are added to the list. :)

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 06:26 PM

jeezzzz I found out wich one but I need to close down xserver before I can install the driver
need help on this one, tried to shut it down from proccesmanager but suse crashed

shn

02-26-2004, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 12:26
jeezzzz I found out wich one but I need to close down xserver before I can install the driver
need help on this one, tried to shut it down from proccesmanager but suse crashed
You need to get your system to boot into runlevel 3. That means you will have a text based console and networking.

You will have to install the driver and then edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config file with vi, or emacs.

The easy way for "you" to change your runlevel from 5 to 3 is to use Linuxconf (http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/) :)

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 06:43 PM

yeah I just did a reboot and installed it in failsafe mode but then i went to sax2 to enable
3d acceleration but it still sez I have no driver, what am I doing wrong?

ps. tried your way but can't find anything that sez 3d accel.

shn

02-26-2004, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 12:43
yeah I just did a reboot and installed it in failsafe mode but then i went to sax2 to enable
3d acceleration but it still sez I have no driver, what am I doing wrong?
As been said. You need to tell X what driver to use.

Edit this /etc/X11/XF86Config

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 06:51 PM

ok here's the x86config file but it doesnt work

# /.../
# SaX generated XFree86 config file
# Created on: 2004-02-25T21:30:13+0100.
#
# Version: 4.7
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer <[email protected]>, 2002
#
# Automatically generated by [ISaX] (4.7)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#

Section "Files"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/Type1"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/Type1"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
 FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/xtest"
 InputDevices "/dev/ttyS0"
 InputDevices "/dev/ttyS1"
 InputDevices "/dev/ttyS2"
 InputDevices "/dev/ttyS3"
 InputDevices "/dev/ttyS4"
 InputDevices "/dev/ttyS5"
 InputDevices "/dev/ttyS6"
 InputDevices "/dev/ttyS7"
 InputDevices "/dev/ttyS8"
 InputDevices "/dev/psaux"
 InputDevices "/dev/logibm"
 InputDevices "/dev/sunmouse"
 InputDevices "/dev/atibm"
 InputDevices "/dev/amigamouse"
 InputDevices "/dev/atarimouse"
 InputDevices "/dev/inportbm"
 InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata"
 InputDevices "/dev/mouse"
 InputDevices "/dev/usbmouse"
 InputDevices "/dev/adbmouse"
 InputDevices "/dev/input/mice"
 InputDevices "/dev/input/event0"
 InputDevices "/dev/pointer0"
 InputDevices "/dev/pointer1"
 InputDevices "/dev/pointer2"
 InputDevices "/dev/pointer3"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
 Option       "AllowMouseOpenFail"
EndSection

Section "Module"
 Load         "freetype"
 Load         "type1"
 Load         "speedo"
 Load         "v4l"
 Load         "glx"
 Load         "dbe"
 Load         "extmod"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
 Driver       "Keyboard"
 Identifier   "Keyboard[0]"
 Option       "Protocol" "Standard"
 Option       "XkbLayout" "us"
 Option       "XkbModel" "pc104"
 Option       "XkbRules" "xfree86"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
 Driver       "mouse"
 Identifier   "Mouse[1]"
 Option       "ButtonNumber" "5"
 Option       "Buttons" "5"
 Option       "Device" "/dev/mouse"
 Option       "Name" "Autodetection"
 Option       "Protocol" "imps/2"
 Option       "Vendor" "Sysp"
 Option       "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
 Option       "CalcAlgorithm" "CheckDesktopGeometry"
 DisplaySize  360 270
 HorizSync    30-75
 Identifier   "Monitor[0]"
 ModelName    "109S"
 Option       "DPMS"
 VendorName   "PHILIPS"
 VertRefresh  50-85
 UseModes     "Modes[0]"
EndSection

Section "Modes"
 Identifier   "Modes[0]"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
 DefaultDepth 16
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth      15
   Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth      16
   Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth      24
   Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth      32
   Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth      8
   Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 Device       "Device[0]"
 Identifier   "Screen[0]"
 Monitor      "Monitor[0]"
EndSection

Section "Device"
 BoardName    "GeForce FX 5600SE"
 BusID        "1:0:0"
 Driver       "nv"
 Identifier   "Device[0]"
 Screen       0
 VendorName   "NVidia"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
 Identifier   "Layout[all]"
 InputDevice  "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
 InputDevice  "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
 Option       "Clone" "off"
 Option       "Xinerama" "off"
 Screen       "Screen[0]"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
   Group      "video"
   Mode       0660
EndSection

shn

02-26-2004, 07:00 PM

Is there a difference between a 5600xt and a 5600se?

You said before you had a 5600xt. The board in your config file says 5600se.

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 07:01 PM

yeah I have xt :( have I installed the wrong driver? :frusty:
I just checked again but there's no specific driver for xt gpu's

killer04

02-26-2004, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by shn+26 February 2004 - 18:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn @ 26 February 2004 - 18:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-killer04@26 February 2004 - 12:08
Wait one min, when i am installing Mandrake 9.0, and then when it asks me for my graphic card, i dont see it so i choose just ATI and then when i have already installed it, the graphics get messed up. I have an ATI radeon 7500.
You should try Mandrake 9.2. As distributions progress they have newer versions of Xfree86 and newer graphic cards are added to the list. :) [/b][/quote]
OK i will try the newer version but i could also try Red Hat?

shn

02-26-2004, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 13:01
yeah I have xt  :(  have I installed the wrong driver?  :frusty:
Most people do not understand the importance of installing the correct driver for Xfree86 to be fully functional.

Eventhough another driver that is almost the exact same model of your card may give you a graphical interface, it will not be "fully" functional.

Provided you had the correct driver installed, enabling 3d acceleration would have been as simple as marking the little check box in sax2. :)

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 07:14 PM

Yeah I know, but tnx anyway.. ill just wait till there a driver comes out.
ps. I love technical chicks that know more then me :unsure:

Boberyno

02-26-2004, 09:35 PM

Then you must love ALL the tech chicks bogaa.

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by Boberyno@26 February 2004 - 21:35
Then you must love ALL the tech chicks bogaa.
Are u flaming me? <_< I was trying to impress her cuz she is misterious and sexy
but hey if it comforts u: I like u to :P

h1

02-26-2004, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 16:42
I was trying to impress her cuz she is misterious and sexy
:lol: How would you know? She could be an ugly-ass wrinkly great-grandmother... although she probably isn't. :P

shn

02-26-2004, 09:56 PM

It really does not matter.

Please keep the threads in Linux section on topic. :)

Boberyno

02-26-2004, 09:58 PM

Forgive my cruel words, I was making a joke and was in that kind of mood. So far I've garnered only a little out of this whole discussion, but I'll use what I've learned.

Oh, and just so you know, I'm male (just in case you were thinking I wasn't). I'm still mysterious and sexy though ;)

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by shn@26 February 2004 - 21:56
It really does not matter.

Please keep the threads in Linux section on topic. :)
see what I mean ==> hard to get (I like that)

LSA

02-26-2004, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 12:51
ok here's the x86config file but it doesnt work

Section "Device"
  BoardName    "GeForce FX 5600SE"
  BusID        "1:0:0"
  Driver      "nv"
  Identifier  "Device[0]"
  Screen      0
  VendorName  "NVidia"
EndSection

If you installed the drivers, you need to change "nv" to "nvidia"

There are a few other things you have to do, it explains it all in the readme.

I don't know if that has been said already, sorry if it has.

bogaaa

02-26-2004, 11:23 PM

Followed the instructions but still not working.

LSA

02-26-2004, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 17:23
Followed the instructions but still not working.
Do you have any details?

bogaaa

02-27-2004, 12:08 AM

Uhhh yeah I posted the config file's content in this threat

LSA

02-27-2004, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 18:08
Uhhh yeah I posted the config file's content in this threat
What I meant was what are you trying to do. Do you get any error messages?

Try this: http://www.mesa3d.org/

Oh and don't post smart little comments like that when someone is trying to help you.

bogaaa

02-27-2004, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by LSA+27 February 2004 - 00:17--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LSA @ 27 February 2004 - 00:17)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 18:08
Uhhh yeah I posted the config file's content in this threat
What I meant was what are you trying to do. Do you get any error messages?

Try this: http://www.mesa3d.org/

Oh and don't post smart little comments like that when someone is trying to help you. [/b][/quote]
Who me? I just gave an answer to your question, if you think thats smart then I am very smart
since I give a lot answers :D

LSA

02-27-2004, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 18:33
Who me? I just gave an answer to your question, if you think thats smart then I am very smart
since I give a lot answers :D
I worded it wrong...

How could someone just look at your config file and tell you what is wrong?

You need to say what you did, exactly. Did you get it too install? Do you see an nvidia splash screen when you start X? From what you provided I can't really help you, and I was asking for more information.

Did you try Mesa3d? http://www.mesa3d.org/

shn

02-27-2004, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by LSA+26 February 2004 - 18:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LSA @ 26 February 2004 - 18:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-bogaaa@26 February 2004 - 18:33
Who me? I just gave an answer to your question, if you think thats smart then I am very smart
since I give a lot answers  :D
I worded it wrong...

How could someone just look at your config file and tell you what is wrong?

You need to say what you did, exactly. Did you get it too install? Do you see an nvidia splash screen when you start X? From what you provided I can't really help you, and I was asking for more information.

Did you try Mesa3d? http://www.mesa3d.org/[/b][/quote]
I looked at the config file and told him what is wrong <_<

bogaaa

02-27-2004, 12:58 AM

tnx shn, some ppl get really sensitive, anyway it doesnt work and it aint that important since
im not a gamer but I trully am greatfull for your help lsa, u rock

LSA

02-27-2004, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by shn@26 February 2004 - 18:48
I looked at the config file and told him what is wrong <_<
What I meant was it would be hard.

More info would make it easier is what I meant.

:unsure:

killer04

02-27-2004, 04:08 PM

Hmmm, i dont find a driver for ati radeon 7500 on www.ati.com. Does anyone know what graphic card i should choose when i am insalling Mandrake 9? Last time i chose just ATI but the graphics got messed up.

bogaaa

02-27-2004, 05:07 PM

First thing you need to do is not install mandrake since it has many security problems.
You dont want to get hacked now do you? Install suse 90 it is much easyer to use
and finds all hardware by its self

shn

02-27-2004, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by killer04@27 February 2004 - 10:08
Hmmm, i dont find a driver for ati radeon 7500 on www.ati.com.  Does  anyone know what graphic card  i should choose when i am insalling Mandrake 9? Last time i chose just ATI but the graphics  got messed up.
Well, to be honest it does not matter what distro you use when it comes to wether your graphics card is suported.

It relies solely on the version of Xfree86 that the distro is using. To make it simple, just find out what version of Xfree86 is used with the distro and check the Xfree86 site for that version and it will tell you if your card is supported.

http://www.xfree86.org/

If your card is only supported in a newer version of Xfree86 then install the latest version. :)

bogaaa

02-27-2004, 05:45 PM

Girl you just keep suprising me with your knolledge

killer04

02-28-2004, 12:02 PM

ok thanx but i do not find my card on the ati list...

shn

02-28-2004, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by killer04@28 February 2004 - 06:02
ok thanx but i do not find my card on the ati list...
You sure you looked here? http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status6.html#6

killer04

02-28-2004, 07:40 PM

Yeah it isnt there

shn

02-28-2004, 08:21 PM

There is no 3d acceleration for your card yet

XFree86 4.2 (or later versions) includes 3D acceleration for the following graphics hardware:

ATI Radeon, supported on Intel x86, AMD and Alpha:

* Radeon SDR AGP
* Radeon DDR AGP
* Radeon 32MB SDR PCI (Alpha-based systems)
* Radeon 7000, M6 (RV100)
* Radeon 7200 (R100)
* Radeon 7500, M7 (RV200)
* Radeon 8500, 9100 (R200)
* Radeon 9000, M9 (RV250)

You will just have to wait :)

bennett

02-29-2004, 07:22 AM

hello all

do you know when they are going to release a new version for XFree86 because i have a radeon 9600XT pro and i just want to make sure that all of the drivers are availible before i go to linux

thanks bennett

shn

02-29-2004, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by bennett@29 February 2004 - 01:22
hello all

do you know when they are going to release a new version for XFree86 because i have a radeon 9600XT pro and i just want to make sure that all of the drivers are availible before i go to linux

thanks bennett
http://xfree86.org/releaseplans.html

bennett

03-01-2004, 08:18 AM

thanks shn :D

killer04

03-01-2004, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by shn@28 February 2004 - 20:21
There is no 3d acceleration for your card yet

XFree86 4.2 (or later versions) includes 3D acceleration for the following graphics hardware:

ATI Radeon, supported on Intel x86, AMD and Alpha:

* Radeon SDR AGP
* Radeon DDR AGP
* Radeon 32MB SDR PCI (Alpha-based systems)
* Radeon 7000, M6 (RV100)
* Radeon 7200 (R100)
* Radeon 7500, M7 (RV200)
* Radeon 8500, 9100 (R200)
* Radeon 9000, M9 (RV250)

You will just have to wait :)
Ok thanx for the info... So that 3d acceleration is only to play games...

shn

03-01-2004, 11:09 PM

You might be able to play games without 3d acceleration.

This is the only video game I have ever played in my whole life and it works fine without 3d acceleration. :P
http://www.tuxracer.com/

But for big games like the ones you probably want you would just have to try it and see :)

LSA

03-02-2004, 12:36 AM

The last time I tried Half-Life in WineX it ran ok.

I got around 30-40fps, usually get 40-50 in windows, but thats with the default config file :P

and with an old version of WineX :o