Building A Web Site

[mark845]

im looking to building a web site, nowt flash just a basic web site, to promoto somthing, but i havent got a clue were to start realy, i have 15mb of web space wich i get from my isp, fro free,it web great if someone could help me or show me what to do

thanks

[SeK612]

If your using windows and have Microsoft Office use Microsoft Frontpage (another good alternative WYSIWYG editor is Macromedia Dreamweaver). This is very similar to other Microsoft Office applications so it should be to hard to set up simple pages. Design a page to you liking and then find information on how to upload to your host (via FTP or web upload). Following instructions on how to do this. Once your page is uploaded you can access it by typing the direct url to the page on the server (e.g http://YourISP.com/YourUserName/Index.htm) from any computer connected to the internet.

[balamm]

If you need a working template and advice, I might be able to help.

*poof*

Vanished :lol:

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FrontPage... big nono.

Try using the editor built into Mozilla (http://www.mozilla.org) or Dreamweaver (http://www.macromedia.com).

The best option is to learn HTML, because once you do you'll see that WYSIWYG editors actually don't give you that much control over your pages.

BTW, a list of free hosts can be found here (http://www.clickherefree.com/hosting-free). :)

[SeK612]

I still don't get why people bitch over Frontpage (the only problem I have come across is one with paths to files and images but can be solved easily by maually changing the html code). Its easier to use than Dreamweaver. All my website pages have been done in Frontpage and, although there not particularly stunning, they do what I need them to do. I know that the pro's use notepad and the like but if your not a programmer who's used to working with sheer coding then frontpage and other WYSIWYG editors are fine.

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It makes your code nonstandard and incompatible with many browsers.
Relative image / script / <link /> paths break on upload.
It&#39;s not easier to use, I found it overwhelming when first learning HTML.
It&#39;s unstable.
It&#39;s a Microsoft product, so we know what the quality is like. :lol:
And some stuff I can&#39;t remember. :P
And BTW, I do not prefer Notepad or EMACS, have you ever tried making a complex as hell table with pure code? :frusty: I use a WYSIWYG editor to set up the basic layout and then tweak the code. ;)

[SeK612]

And those few things means that you and loads of other people can rubbish Frontpage (unstable and it being MS don&#39;t count as it&#39;s not unstable and MS aren&#39;t that bad and it is easier than Dreamweaver - its just like word&#33;)? It&#39;s really not that bad :)

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Like you say, it&#39;s not that bad, but there are simply better products out there.

There&#39;s nothing overly terrible about Yugos or Kias, but I wouldn&#39;t be caught dead in one. :ninja:

[mark845]

Originally posted by balamm@27 February 2004 - 22:49
If you need a working template and advice, I might be able to help.

Take a look at some examples I have available

:D http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/sounds102/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/coolC10/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/free002/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/cool25/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/cool14F/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/free003/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/coolC07/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/coolC16/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/tempT15/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/tempT10/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/coolC18/
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/modern1.html
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/candock.swf
http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/aloe.swf
*Edit: Another brand new one&#33;&#33;

http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/Gen7/Gen7.htm

And another

http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/s...y/Stingray.html (http://s90860044.onlinehome.us/templates/stingray/Stingray.html)

I&#39;m assuming your ISP won&#39;t allow PHP or CGI on that site so you&#39;re stuck with html and java.

All of these will work fine there.

If this isn&#39;t what you&#39;re looking for, I have 1000&#39;s more in all styles.
some off then look good, what itis im whanting to do is offer to unlock and reapir nokia and othe mobiles in the uk by post, so i dont need anything flash realy


and i have front page im guna check it out, might aswell seen as iv&#39;e got it

[I.am]

Originally posted by SeK612@27 February 2004 - 15:55
And those few things means that you and loads of other people can rubbish Frontpage (unstable and it being MS don&#39;t count as it&#39;s not unstable and MS aren&#39;t that bad and it is easier than Dreamweaver - its just like word&#33;)? It&#39;s really not that bad :)
As a webdeveloper/programmer the main things one looks for is platform independency.

I used to use frontpage for a long time, that is the early years when i learned html. It wasnt long before I noticed all the junk codes it inserts which is ridiculous. Not to mention it messes up the layout. Dreamweaver is much better.

haxor mentioned the main points which for any developer is understandable

It makes your code nonstandard and incompatible with many browsers.
Relative image / script / <link /> paths break on upload.


When the sites are designed at a professional level (not usual personal homepages or some klite download page) you make it a point that it works in all the browsers out there and obeys w3school&#39;s style. There is a validator you can check at their site.

The point about M&#036; was a joke :P

[NightStalker]

The validation program can be found here (http://validator.w3.org/). :)

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The validator for cascading style sheets can be found here (http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator).

[sharedholder]

http://oswd.org/design/ Free simple web templates. :)

[toco004]

I use Front Page for my site i do have DW but dont use it that much.

@mark845
if you got a good Net connection you shoud set up your own
server then its all good B) . thats what i did

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:rolleyes: Big security risk anyone?

[I.am]

Originally posted by haxor41789@27 February 2004 - 22:28
:rolleyes: Big security risk anyone?
sssssssssh (all that security stuff l8r). Just ask his webaddress for now :lol:

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:lol: Trying to make me pull another IN? :P

[I.am]

:lol: :lol:

Nah, I am innocent :unsure: Just wanted to take a look at a website which was hosted on someone&#39;s personal computer with possibly ISS running having many vulnerabilities that might let me do some chinky stuff with it. Whats wrong in looking :unsure:

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:lol:

[Robert00000]

Originally posted by I.am@29 February 2004 - 02:12
:lol: :lol:

Nah, I am innocent :unsure: Just wanted to take a look at a website which was hosted on someone&#39;s personal computer with possibly ISS running having many vulnerabilities that might let me do some chinky stuff with it. Whats wrong in looking :unsure:
There&#39;s nothing wrong with looking, its just the touching he won&#39;t like :lol:

[Robert00000]

Originally posted by mark845@27 February 2004 - 21:16
im looking to building a web site, nowt flash just a basic web site, to promoto somthing, but i havent got a clue were to start realy, i have 15mb of web space wich i get from my isp, fro free,it web great if someone could help me or show me what to do

thanks
If you are familiar with Microsoft Office products then Frontpage is the easiest to learn.

Once you have mastered that you can use a combination of tools (like i do) to develop sophisticated websites.

[delphin460]

go with notepad html, the only way to fly for real web design lol, im not kidding either.

If you can design a web page in note pad you rock, anyone can cut and paste/drop and drag

go the mighty notepad , it will live forever :lol:

[NightStalker]

Originally posted by delphin460@2 March 2004 - 19:47
go with notepad html, the only way to fly for real web design lol, im not kidding either.

If you can design a web page in note pad you rock, anyone can cut and paste/drop and drag

go the mighty notepad , it will live forever :lol:
tr00 dat&#33; :cool2:

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Noooooo&#33;

It&#39;s EMACS&#33;