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Chilly
03-09-2003, 12:46 AM
I think this gets thrown around to much to Noob&#39;s and Guest&#39;s and other Members. <_<

And its a bit Harsh i think.

Face it you ask a simple Question, "How do i"

Answer: http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/html/emoticons/rtfm.gif :o

Thats a bit much dont you think :blink:

Will put alot of people off when it comes to joining. :o

Can anyone make a tamer version? ;)

jetje
03-09-2003, 12:50 AM
Kinda like the icon.... And it&#39;s truth they should take a look in it before starting questioning all around ;)
But get your point, you can ad some nice words to it. B)


So no jackass starting to say now: :rtfm: please :-"

kAb
03-09-2003, 12:52 AM
i made a quick one about 10 minutes ago for fun. it didn&#39;t come out to as good quality as i had hoped though <_<

http://sigup.com/sigs/rtfmhappy.JPG

i&#39;m new to photoshop sort of.. things w/ the RGB were going screwy :huh:

edit: hmm... gotta get rid of the white <_<

Chilly
03-09-2003, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by kAb@9 March 2003 - 00:52
i made a quick one about 10 minutes ago for fun. it didn&#39;t come out to as good quality as i had hoped though&nbsp; <_<

http://sigup.com/sigs/rtfmhappy.JPG

i&#39;m new to photoshop sort of.. things w/ the RGB were going screwy&nbsp; :huh:
Yeah something like that, i would&#39;nt feel so guilty if i put that. :lol:

But just RTM. ;)

jetje cant you get on of those up as well? ;)

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 12:57 AM
Why is he still saying Read the F*cking manual? :lol:
What&#39;s wrong with the guy yelling read the manual, he&#39;s just trying to help. :P

[B][O][T]
03-09-2003, 01:19 AM
If You reply with the RTFM icon I take it as You can the answer of the particular question, so why dont write a few lines that might take a couple of minuts?
That I fail to understand....

BOT

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 01:21 AM
We want something appealing ok? Is that so much ask for? :P

Chilly
03-09-2003, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by [B][O][T]@9 March 2003 - 01:19
If You reply with the RTFM icon I take it as You can the answer of the particular question, so why dont write a few lines that might take a couple of minuts?
That I fail to understand....

BOT
_______________________________________________________
That I fail to understand?

Cant answer the question or can? :(

[B][O][T]
03-09-2003, 01:36 AM
@Chilly

If You can answer the n00b question why dont just do so? Instead of posting a little icon that dosnt really help much?

Sorry I&#39;m a bit tired....2:31am here

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 01:41 AM
They have to learn how to use the manual or else they keep repeating the same process.

Chilly
03-09-2003, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by [B][O][T]@9 March 2003 - 01:36
If You can answer the n00b question why dont just do so? Instead of posting a little icon that dosnt really help much?


Thats is what i do, i try to answer as many as i can and be helpful to the guests,members, n00b&#39;s etc. :)

And i agree with your point about the logo not helping much, but my point is i find it a bit Abusive to

newcomers and guest&#39;s entering or joining the Forum. :(

Yes the little Dudes are funny :P :lol: <_< :( in there Expressions and everyone likes them. :lol:

But maybe a nicer one after you have given an answer, as light humour. B)

Chilly ;)

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 02:01 AM
How about when you&#39;re are angry use :rtfm: and when you&#39;re not, good old FAQ. :-)

MagicNakor
03-09-2003, 02:32 AM
Does this mean you&#39;re always angry Great_Dude? ;)

:ninja:

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by MagicNakor@8 March 2003 - 18:32
Does this mean you&#39;re always angry Great_Dude? ;)

:ninja:
No MagicNakor. :lol: If you want me to, sure I&#39;ll always be angry. :devil: :devil: :devil:

SuperJude™
03-09-2003, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by [B][O][T]@9 March 2003 - 02:19
If You reply with the RTFM icon I take it as You can the answer of the particular question, so why dont write a few lines that might take a couple of minuts?
That I fail to understand....

BOT
Because sometimes people just wanna flame and they don&#39;t have nearly the talent I do in such matters, and thus it is easier to post that stupid icon.

Really I don&#39;t like it either personally, though whatever, isn&#39;t my board.

-SJ™

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by SuperJude™@8 March 2003 - 18:47
Because sometimes people just wanna flame and they don&#39;t have nearly the talent I do in such matters, and thus it is easier to post that stupid icon.

Really I don&#39;t like it either personally, though whatever, isn&#39;t my board.

-SJ™
Giving answers to them straight out which can easily be answered in the faq is ok, but they will probably do it again somewhere else.

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
03-09-2003, 02:50 AM
@BOT: Why not just type a couple lines you say? Well, because it gets pretty damn annoying typing the same thing over and over and over and over and sooner or later you&#39;ll just get tired of doing it all together, or your just getting lazy, i.e. me :P . If everything can be answered in the FAQ, then :rtfm:. But if your in a good mood, Read the FAQ :-)

Oh well, I have biology homework...so yea :ph34r:

RPerry
03-09-2003, 02:50 AM
I don&#39;t like the idea of it being thrown out at the beginning of a post, but sometimes there is no other choice. The Icon is fine the way it is, please don&#39;t change it.

dingoBaby
03-09-2003, 02:51 AM
@Chilly I am glad you brought this topic up. I couldn&#39;t agree with you more. :)

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by Shinigami@8 March 2003 - 18:50
@BOT: Why not just type a couple lines you say? Well, because it gets pretty damn annoying typing the same thing over and over and over and over and sooner or later you&#39;ll just get tired of doing it all together, or your just getting lazy, i.e. me :P . If everything can be answered in the FAQ, then :rtfm:. But if your in a good mood, Read the FAQ :-)
Yeah, it does get very annoying typing up that same thing over and over when a simple icon or the word FAQ will solve it. ;)

Bender
03-09-2003, 02:55 AM
I stated my opinion on this smiley twice already tonight, please forgive me for giving a link: :D
http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act...ST&f=22&t=20288 (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=20288)


edit: it&#39;s the 6th post, the one with the robot. :D

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 02:59 AM
We have advertised alot of the klite forum, but did it kinda draw some bad people in? ;) How about we just use on members who don&#39;t read the faq. :P

SuperJude™
03-09-2003, 03:00 AM
What I wonder is how you go and make an icon like that, which is blatantly insulting, and then get pissed at me for blatantly insulting people?

I mean it&#39;s the same damn thing right?

-SJ™

RPerry
03-09-2003, 03:01 AM
Beacuse then we would still be using it quite a bit from what I can tell :D

DataMore
03-09-2003, 03:01 AM
Most people don&#39;t even know what RTFM means.
If you throw them that smilie, they won&#39;t get it.
I&#39;ve never used that smilie.
I prefer to give a good answer, or tell them to read the FAQ. :)

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
03-09-2003, 03:03 AM
LOL, yea... sounds like a good idea since nearly every newbie doesn&#39;t read the FAQ. :lol:

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by SuperJude™@8 March 2003 - 19:00
What I wonder is how you go and make an icon like that, which is blatantly insulting, and then get pissed at me for blatantly insulting people?

I mean it&#39;s the same damn thing right?

-SJ™
Ugluk suggested that icon you know. :P
rtfm doesn&#39;t have to mean the other way, you could say " read the fabulous manual "

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
03-09-2003, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by DataMore@8 March 2003 - 19:01
Most people don&#39;t even know what RTFM means.
If you throw them that smilie, they won&#39;t get it.
I&#39;ve never used that smilie.
I prefer to give a good answer, or tell them to read the FAQ. :)
Barely recognized you without your old avatar&#33; :P
Besides, pretty soon we won&#39;t need that emoticon when The_Great_Dude and I collect the best explanations and solutions that have been given at this board. :w00t:

SuperJude™
03-09-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by The_Great_Dude@9 March 2003 - 04:03
Ugluk suggested that icon you know. :P
rtfm doesn&#39;t have to mean the other way, you could say " read the fabulous manual "
Ugluk is pure EVIL #1.

#2 it could mean "read this for more" I guess?

Not a big issue, just don&#39;t particularly like that icon/graemlin/smilie/smily.

-SJ™

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 03:09 AM
Yes that and http://sigup.com/sigs/rtfmhappy2finalWILL.jpg icon, (make it transparent) and you have a friendly saying.

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
03-09-2003, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by The_Great_Dude@8 March 2003 - 19:03
rtfm doesn&#39;t have to mean the other way, you could say " read the fabulous manual "
I like this one :rolleyes:

kAb
03-09-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by The_Great_Dude@9 March 2003 - 04:09
Yes that and http://sigup.com/sigs/rtfmhappy2finalWILL.jpg icon, (make it transparent) and you have a friendly saying.
yeah, i can&#39;t get it to be transparent though <_<

when i do make tha background clear, it saves to white... don&#39;t know what to do... i&#39;d also like to have it better quality. i&#39;m gonna have to play around with it for awhile.

to others: feel free to make a smiley rtfm or something. if you can make a better one, please do so.

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 04:47 PM
You have to use gif format to make it transparent. Don&#39;t make the size to big, try to make the size close to :rtfm:

kAb
03-09-2003, 04:56 PM
ok, but now i can&#39;t clone stamp the smiley face over the angry face because of different color tables. does anyone know how to copy the color table and add it to another? i tried saving and loading the color tables to the other smileys, but it screwed up the colors.

btw i&#39;m using photoshop 7.

Chilly
03-09-2003, 08:22 PM
Right back from work ;)

Some interesting posts :lol:


Originally posted by dingoBaby+9 March 2003 - 02:51--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dingoBaby @ 9 March 2003 - 02:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>@Chilly&nbsp; I am glad you brought this topic up.&nbsp; I couldn&#39;t agree with you more. :)[/b]
I see im not the only one that isnt to keen on it. :unsure:


Originally posted by -RPerry@9 March 2003 - 02:50
I don&#39;t like the idea of it being thrown out at the beginning of a post, but sometimes there is no other choice. The Icon is fine the way it is, please don&#39;t change it.
Thats what im trying to say its not very polite and is very rude i think.

Im not asking for it to be changed im saying have another choice but a friendlier version, i can understand if is the same person repeatedly asking the same questions, which could be answered in the FAQ.
Go ahead give them a :rtfm:, but not to n00b&#39;s or guest&#39;s. ;)

<!--QuoteBegin--SuperJude™@9 March 2003 - 03:00
What I wonder is how you go and make an icon like that, which is blatantly insulting SJ™[/quote]
Need is say more&#33; B)

The more people you get to join the Forum, the more popular it will become.

The more Donation&#39;s you will recieve.

The more advice on problems, future development, Verifield&#39;s, etc. ;)

Maybe a bit extreme but just think about it?

Chilly ;)

kAb
03-09-2003, 08:28 PM
while we&#39;re on the subject, i really think that WINK must be changed&#33; :lol:

i mean ;) .... he looks confused or something :huh:

ooo
03-09-2003, 09:06 PM
ummm i dunt think that some ppl know what :rtfm: stands for... i didnt know at first... errr.... :P... its not that obvious...

ToraBoraDweller
03-09-2003, 09:24 PM
I just don&#39;t understand all this fuss &#33;
It&#39;s only an option & there are plenty alternatives to express yourself. °÷°

Jibbler
03-09-2003, 09:38 PM
99% of the questions on this board can be answered by reading the tutorials online or using the search button. People are too lazy too look. Don&#39;t expect this to change anytime soon. Go ahead, make a manual, then make it a "sticky." Then in two days, when people re-ask the same damn questions, we can link to the manual in every thread. Sounds like fun.--

Jibbler

ugluk
03-09-2003, 10:26 PM
this looks just so... so silly&#33; http://sigup.com/sigs/rtfmhappy2finalWILL.jpg

i hate it. and dont take away the great :rtfm: &#33;&#33; it is useful&#33; and if you cant take getting the :rtfm: thrown in your face, then i say YOU have a problem&#33; :P and :rtfm: is a hell of a lot more fun than &#39;Read the FAQ&#33;&#33;&#39;.

ooo
03-09-2003, 10:31 PM
:rtfm::rtfm::rtfm::rtfm::rtfm::rtfm::rtfm::rtfm::rtfm::rtfm::rtfm: well i certainly think the icon is too big lol

:rtfm: > :ninja: -- size difference,
somethings not matching now and the color / style is different from the rest...

Chilly
03-09-2003, 10:35 PM
I think you should read :rtfm: and you will find something about Spamming <_<

ooo
03-09-2003, 10:40 PM
lol... shhhhh... :P

EDIT: Wait i found something


5. Spamming is not permitted; please keep all your posts as constructive as possible

Petri
03-09-2003, 11:02 PM
I was bored, so I made this: http://koti.mbnet.fi/exec/rtfaq.gif

It matches the other smilies a bit better, isn&#39;t quite as aggressive as :rtfm:, and everyone should know what it means...

kAb
03-09-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by 4731571@10 March 2003 - 00:02
I was bored, so I made this: http://koti.mbnet.fi/exec/rtfaq.gif

It matches the other smilies a bit better, isn&#39;t quite as aggressive as :rtfm:, and everyone should know what it means...
hehe, his arm is squiggly.

better than mine though :)

waht&#39;d u use to make it?

scribblec
03-09-2003, 11:14 PM
u know when u say that to a noob asking a question
wouldnt they also ask what does rtfm mean also
cos i doubt many noob will understand that

Petri
03-09-2003, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by kAb@10 March 2003 - 01:12
waht&#39;d u use to make it?
Paint Shop Pro 7

Chilly
03-09-2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by 4731571@9 March 2003 - 23:02
I was bored, so I made this: http://koti.mbnet.fi/exec/rtfaq.gif

It matches the other smilies a bit better, isn&#39;t quite as aggressive as :rtfm:, and everyone should know what it means...
True True True

THAT IS PERFECT ;)

Now why cant we have that?

He&#39;s not nasty, it explains its self nice and clear.

B) 4731571 B) your the man ;)

Please Please one of you BIG BOYS or GIRL :P upstairs at this. ;)

The Great Dude
03-09-2003, 11:39 PM
Yes, very nice. I could use that sometimes. :lol:
ugluk, is it true you&#39;re pure evil? :devil: :P

Chilly
03-10-2003, 01:11 AM
How Cool is that http://koti.mbnet.fi/exec/rtfaq.gif

What do you all think? B)

MagicNakor
03-10-2003, 01:21 AM
I don&#39;t think it should replace the :rtfm: guy. Maybe in addition to him. ;)

....I just like "read the fabulous manual." :P

:ninja:

The Great Dude
03-10-2003, 01:24 AM
Use :rtfm: on members who don&#39;t read the faq. You guys should know better. :lol:

Read the fabulous manual because it&#39;s so great. :D

ooo
03-10-2003, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by The_Great_Dude@10 March 2003 - 02:24
Use :rtfm: on members who don&#39;t read the faq. You guys should know better. :lol:

Read the fabulous manual because it&#39;s so great. :D
lolol.... err but thats not what the "F" in :rtfm: really meant... :P

:geek: :w00t: B) <-- those are the smilies that should hold up the read the manual sign... switch wording of course

Chilly
03-10-2003, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by MagicNakor@10 March 2003 - 01:21
I don&#39;t think it should replace the :rtfm: guy. Maybe in addition to him. ;)

....I just like "read the fabulous manual." :P

:ninja:
I have&#39;nt asked for it to be replaced if you read in the thread, i asked if it could be added. ;)

And RTFM should Stand for "Read The Forum Manual" B)

VB
03-10-2003, 12:45 PM
&#58;rtfaq&#58; => :rtfaq:

Thanks 4731571 :-)

Bender
03-10-2003, 02:09 PM
We have :rtfaq: for guests and newbies now, and :rtfm: for the members.


Shall we close this topic before Soul814 starts spamming again? :D

Ron
03-10-2003, 02:12 PM
Yes please. :D

Razz
03-10-2003, 02:12 PM
i agree :lol:

Bender
03-10-2003, 02:15 PM
B*st*rds&#33; :lol: