Heatsinks

[Keikan]

When I'm gonna go get my new puter I probably won't have a fancy cooling setup yet, i'll probably will have a amd stock heatsink with a "thermal pad". Will the thing fry when I try to play a game?

[Virtualbody1234]

No.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Keikan@18 March 2004 - 19:30
When I'm gonna go get my new puter I probably won't have a fancy cooling setup yet, i'll probably will have a amd stock heatsink with a "thermal pad". Will the thing fry when I try to play a game?
:lol: :lol: amd would be in big trouble if playing a game with there heatysyns fried the cpu.

[Keikan]

ya well what will the temp be like? can you oc?

[kaiweiler]

what cpu are you getting?
I know the stock heatsink that comes with the 2500+ is very good and you can oc quite high with it!

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah, the stock HS is good, and is what I use.

Take the thermal pad off and put thermal paste though.

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@18 March 2004 - 22:58
Yeah, the stock HS is good, and is what I use.

Take the thermal pad off and put thermal paste though.
Yup, and I and almost everyone else will recommend Arctic Silver 5 for that

[Keikan]

Ya but you see I'll probably be using the thermal pad for a while...

how do you even take off the thermal pad?

[Virtualbody1234]

It will still be ok with the thermal pad so you can leave it.

But it's better with Arctic silver (a few degrees). You can remove it with your fingernail and then some rubbing alcohol.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Keikan@18 March 2004 - 22:03
Ya but you see I'll probably be using the thermal pad for a while...

how do you even take off the thermal pad?
scrape it with ur finger nail to get the huge amounts off, and then use rubbing alcohol or lighter fluid (lighter fluid works really good) to remove the little amounts that are left.

it is a lot easier to remove the thermal pad before it has been used becuase it will after be sticky and also has to be removed from the processor.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah best thing is to never use the pad, just take it off then use paste, because when you heat it it makes it harder to get off.

[3RA1N1AC]

http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showt...15&#entry533628 (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=69930&st=15&#entry533628)

YOU STILL HAVEN'T BOUGHT THE HEATSINK AFTER SEVEN MONTHS? you asked before, and everyone already told you, a stock AMD heatsink is more than acceptable. just put the damn computer together already. >:|

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@18 March 2004 - 22:56
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showt...15&#entry533628 (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=69930&st=15&#entry533628)

YOU STILL HAVEN'T BOUGHT THE HEATSINK AFTER SEVEN MONTHS? you asked before, and everyone already told you, a stock AMD heatsink is more than acceptable. just put the damn computer together already. >:|
Very good point, 3RA1N1AC. You have a great memory. I didn't remember it was Keikan way back then.

@Keikan... Do as you wish.

[Storm]

and make sure you fit it only correctly!!!! (http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/index.html)

[Keikan]

Hey i'm not rich i had to wait a year for this puter and i'm still waiting. I'm just making last minute decisions. Ordering this weekend!!!

[JunkBarMan]

Remove thermal paste and the like with 100% pure Acetone, NO nail polish remover. It will work like a dream. Use that on the CPU. For your heatsink use Goof Off. There are others that work too, but I have found those to be two of the best ones.

[Keikan]

could you oc with the pad?

[JunkBarMan]

I have no idea if you could. I overclocked my xp1700+ with a stock heatsink that had the pad. I only got like 200 mhz out of it, the heat was too much. So I guess you could, but why not just spend $5 US and get some Arctic Silver 5? You use it more then once, so to me it's worth it. Besides, if you decide to change your stock heatsink out when you decide to do some serious overclocking then, you can use the artic silver 5 again.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Keikan@19 March 2004 - 19:34
could you oc with the pad?
yes, using thermal paste (ie arctic silver 5) u will only get temps about 5 degrees lower than with a thermal pad.

and dont take the heatsync off of the cpu once it has been attached until u plan on applying the arctic silver 5. if you take it off before and put it back on ur temperautres will skyrocket and you could even fry the cpu (i did that :angry: to an xp2000+ :angry: :angry: ) got a free 2200+ though :)

[Keikan]

Originally posted by JunkBarMan@19 March 2004 - 18:42
I have no idea if you could. I overclocked my xp1700+ with a stock heatsink that had the pad. I only got like 200 mhz out of it, the heat was too much. So I guess you could, but why not just spend $5 US and get some Arctic Silver 5? You use it more then once, so to me it's worth it. Besides, if you decide to change your stock heatsink out when you decide to do some serious overclocking then, you can use the artic silver 5 again.
I dunno, people at a storing are building it for me, buying another heatsink costs too much. Maybe i could get them to scratch off the thermal pad and put thermal paste? Doubt they do that.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Keikan+19 March 2004 - 19:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Keikan @ 19 March 2004 - 19:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JunkBarMan@19 March 2004 - 18:42
I have no idea if you could. I overclocked my xp1700+ with a stock heatsink that had the pad. I only got like 200 mhz out of it, the heat was too much. So I guess you could, but why not just spend &#036;5 US and get some Arctic Silver 5? You use it more then once, so to me it&#39;s worth it. Besides, if you decide to change your stock heatsink out when you decide to do some serious overclocking then, you can use the artic silver 5 again.
I dunno, people at a storing are building it for me, buying another heatsink costs too much. Maybe i could get them to scratch off the thermal pad and put thermal paste? Doubt they do that. [/b][/quote]
im sure they will do that... and why dont u build it yourself? its not hard, its fun, and u save money.

[Keikan]

my mom "doesn&#39;t trust me" i want to build it myself

[JunkBarMan]

Don&#39;t be afraid to build it. Just play it smart when you do, like don&#39;t make silly mistakes. Keep beverages away from your parts and work area(a work area is important). Recheck everything, twice. If you aren&#39;t sure about something, ask this forum or google search it.

[Keikan]

I&#39;m not afraid to build it

[tesco]

Originally posted by Keikan@19 March 2004 - 21:11
I&#39;m not afraid to build it
then keep begging your mom to let you build it, dont take no for an answer. you must build it, somehow prove to her that you can build it.

[Keikan]

apparantly i can

but I&#39;m afraid i&#39;m gonna fail in these steps

1. placing processer in socket
2. putting the proper amount of thermal grease
3. scratching off the thermal pad
4. putting the heatsink on the processer

plus it&#39;s my first time, ok i&#39;m getting scared.... :smilie4:

and so many boxes

[tesco]

Originally posted by Keikan@19 March 2004 - 23:02
apparantly i can

but I&#39;m afraid i&#39;m gonna fail in these steps

1. placing processer in socket
2. putting the proper amount of thermal grease
3. scratching off the thermal pad
4. putting the heatsink on the processer

plus it&#39;s my first time, ok i&#39;m getting scared.... :smilie4:

and so many boxes
we can walk u through it over the forum or someone on aim or msn can help u. its not hard anyway:

1. you pull up the little lever all of the way, then drop the processor into teh socket, it doesnt take any force at all so u will know if ur doing it right or not, then once it is in u apply slight force but not much as u let down the lever and lock it into place.

2. as long as you put a layer that you can actually see you will be fine. around a quarter to one half of a mm thick is good.

3. this part is really easy. all you do is scratch it off with ur finger nail for the big blobs, and then use rubing alcohol or lighter fluid to get the little blobs off. and keep scrubbing to make sure u get it all. thats very easy.

4. placing the heatsync onto a processor is also pretty easy, just place it on top of the processor and clip the clip on using a screw driver. but make sure the screw driver fits snugly because u dont want it to slip and hit motherboard. what i do is put a piece of paper which i fold a few times to make it thick, between the motherboard and the clip incase I slip, but ive never slipped.

boxes can be a problem though :lol: :lol:

[Keikan]

I probably can&#39;t fit the monitor in our car

[tesco]

Originally posted by Keikan@20 March 2004 - 01:49
I probably can&#39;t fit the monitor in our car
my first computer&#39;s monitor was 15" and we had an old mazda 323 at the time, if i could fit the monitor in that car u can fit it in urs. even if its bigger. stop making excuses lol.

[Keikan]

are you talking about with box or no box?

Can you use nail polish remover to get rid of the pad?

[tesco]

Originally posted by Keikan@20 March 2004 - 17:56
are you talking about with box or no box?

Can you use nail polish remover to get rid of the pad?
with box, and dont use nail polich remover, i think somebody already said not too. it leaves behind odors and therefore leaves residue on the heatsync. the best to use are rubbing alcohol and lighter fluid, lighter fluid works better but im not sure if it leaves a residue behind wehich is why I go over it again with alcohol after all the pad is off.

[Keikan]

ya but you see 323 is a hatchback you could fit any box in the hatch we have a toyota corolla coupe

[tesco]

Originally posted by Keikan@20 March 2004 - 19:58
ya but you see 323 is a hatchback you could fit any box in the hatch we have a toyota corolla coupe
you can fit it in the back seat...or even the front seat if u have to...its not impossible to do. or get it delivered to your house.

[Keikan]

ok how bout something more important like ram, Which is better in performance and ocing? samsung/infineon or twinmos basic also planning to dual channel can these ram dual?

[bigdawgfoxx]

This (http://xoxide.com/evk8wamdk8.html) looks like a pretty nice cooler for &#036;20 bucks. The Heatsink at least...and its supposed to be under 30Dbs also.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@21 March 2004 - 21:11
This (http://xoxide.com/evk8wamdk8.html) looks like a pretty nice cooler for &#036;20 bucks.&nbsp; The Heatsink at least...and its supposed to be under 30Dbs also.
Thats for the 64 bit machines though, so only get that if your getting a 64bit processor. However, like the regular XP coolers, I hear the stock AMD ones are quite adequate in the long run as well.

Also Keikan, I have heard, that the thermalpaste they have at radio shack, works nearly as good as Artic Silver 3, for about 5 bucks. (No, im not joking.) :)

Oh and as for the Ram, look at its rating, and it should be able to run at that, Bh5 chips used to be the big overclocking chips, but you dont really see those anymore. Now it really just depends on what the company uses.

Get yourself some nice 3500 Ram if you can, and you will have plenty of specified headroom over the standard overclock of 200FSB. However, if your ordering from a place like Newegg, their customer reviews area is a great place to get an idea of what other people have done with that type of ram.