Interested In Comments About Desktop

[angelique]

When I have enough saved up. I am very intersted in puchasing this desktop. Nothing bad about it, that I see, besides for a few flaws, like pre-installed Xp with no extra disk, no speakers or monitor.


I do not know much about parts so any comments, good or bad, would be appreciated. Right now this looks 10x better then the computer I am currently running on ;)


http://www002.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/s...ackard+Desktops (http://www002.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/sku.asp?PageType=1&Sku=560428&bcFlag=True&bcSCatId=3&bcSCatName=Technology&bcCatId=71&bcCatName=Computers&bcDeptId=1862&bcDeptName=+Desktops&bcClassId=141817&bcClassName=Hewlett%2DPackard+Desktops)

[delphin460]

Man dont buy a stock oem brand named peice of crap,

buy the parts u want and build it , cost less and will be exactly what u want

[muchspl2]

you can get a dell 2400 2.66Ghz P4, 256MB DDR SDRAM, 48x CD-RW Drive, and 80GB HD for $399 after Rebate with FREE Shipping
but you can build a better one for around the same and certainly less than the one you posted :D

[3RA1N1AC]

$1000 is a bit much to pay for a desktop, 'specially since it's a buyer's market nowadays and that kind of money oughta be able to buy more "stuff" (monitor, speakers, printer). unless you're going to do a lot of 3D game-playing, audio/video editing, or anything that really pushes the system very hard, you could save a lot of money by getting a slightly slower processor. even if you do plan to do much heavy-duty stuff with the computer, a 2.6ghz comp (or "2600," the AMD equivalent) handles most things just fine... by the time 2.6ghz and 3ghz computers become obsolete, that extra 0.4ghz won't make much of a difference at all.

personally, i'd just get a slightly slower one (the very fastest models are usually terrible values, as far as bang-for-your-buck goes) and use the money i saved to get a monitor or some other gadget (digital camera, scanner, tv tuner card, whatever).

[Neo 721]

in the UK that is considered reasonable to pay for a dektop.

[peat moss]

Ya it is a buyers market right now take your time look around. For $1000 you can get the complete package printer, lcd 15" monitor, or 17" crt, speakers ,mouse etc.

example: http://www.ntcw.com/ Canadian Prices.

Notice pre loaded with Lindows ! :lol: But most come with XP on disk .

[GrubMe]

HP SPECS THAT HE WANTS TO BUY.
$1,049.98

Processor Speed Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz with Hyper-Threading technology
Memory (RAM) 512MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM
Memory Expandable to 2GB
Hard Drive 160GB(7200RPM)
Optical Drive DVD+RW/CDRW combo drive
Modem Speed/Type 56K
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Network Card 10/100 Ethernet LAN
DisplayType NOT INCLUDED
Video Graphics nvidia geforce fx 5200 agp 8x graphics card, 128 mb ddr video memory, tv out, dvi support
Audio Integrated Audio, 6 speaker configurable
Speakers NOT INCLUDED
Drive Bays 6
Additional Drives 48X CD-ROM
Ports/Connectors 5 USB 2.0, Front Panel 7-in-1 memory card reader
Other ports 2 Firewire(IEEE 1394), 1 serial, 1 parallel, 2 PS/2, 1 VGA, 1 microphone/headphone/line-in
Mouse HP Optical Mouse
Keyboard HP Internet Keyboard
Software included Microsoft Works 7.0, MSN Encarta Plus, Abobe Acrobat Reader, Microsoft Money 2004.
Dimensions 15.5"x8.25"x15.25", 35lbs
Warranty 1 Year Limited

[GrubMe]

Not bad of a deal I would say...
But a geforcefx 5200 128M?
Try asking for Ti or an ATi 9600 PRO / XT

I would prefer customizing it...
Buy a cheap combo with good parts from a NON EXPENSIVE COMPUTER STORE and tell them to buy the combo deal and build it yourself, I recommend not trusting those computer sellers to assemble your part since you think they are putting new parts in?

No, they put in used parts. Ask them to assemble it yourself ;) .

If you buy it part for part, you will notice that combos are a better choice of spending money since parts such as P4 2.4 ($245 CDN) and there is a combo with all the system requirements for just ($555). So use common sense and try to be smart! Don't be scared to say what you want. They will take advantage of your computer knowledge. DEMAND WHAT YOU WANT, YOUR THE CUSTOMER!

[SingaBoiy]

X-Caliber PT800DBP - VIA Socket 478 ATX Motherboard Bundle with Audio, AGP 8X/4X, USB 2.0, SATA, 10/100Mbps Ethernet LAN Support and Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz Processor - 285

Memory (RAM) 512MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM - 65

Seagate 160 gig HDD (7200) - 105

Toshiba SDR1112 DVD Burner / 4x2x12x DVD-RW / 16x10x40x CD-RW - 70

10/100 Fast Ethernet NIC Card PCI with Wake on LAN - 5

eVGA GeForce FX 5200 Video Card / 128MB DDR / AGP 8X / TV Out - 60

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 PCI Sound Card - 35

ATX 7 Bay Case - 35

Additional CD-ROM 56x Drive - 20

Chieftec Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse - 40

Total - 690 USD. This is all from one site, you can get things listed here for cheaper if you look.

[GrubMe]

This is my type of store, dont't worry about this store... they have a special warehouse and assemblies REAL NEW PARTS. You can tell by looking inside the computer itself. That is why you need to install windows xp by yourself. Since the hard drive has been installed freshly!
CANADIAN CASH ONLY!

processor · Intel® Pentium4® 3.0Ghz 800FSB processor 512k
memory · 1024MB (512 x 2 Infineon PC3200) DDR400
mainboard · Asus P4P800S i848p S478 Mainboard
-MB features · SATA & w/5.1 Sound & USB 2.0 w/ATA-100
optical drives · Sony 52x32x52x CDR/RW Writer
hard drive · Seagate 120GB 7200rpm SATA 8mb Buffer
floppy drive · Samsung 1.44MB 3.5" floppy drive
video · MSI MS8911 GFX-5200 128MB AGP8x
audio · Integrated Digital 5.1 sound interface
network · Integrated 10/100 network card
case · 18" ATX-styled Tower w/ Front USB (Model:850U)
power · CSA Approved P4 300 Watt power supply
input device · Microsoft® Multimedia Keyboard PS/2
pointing device · Microsoft® Optical wheel mouse PS/2
speakers · Creative Inspire SBS-330 2.1spk w/subwoofer

TOTAL COST *$999*

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WWW.A-POWER.COM
VANCOUVER, B.C.

[peat moss]

Grub those guy's are knumb nuts at a -power. They flashed my friends bios and screwed it up! Check out PC Xperts here in North Delta . BC .Great place they don't even advertise .Its all word of mouth or business contacts .

[gungrave]

Originally posted by angelique@21 March 2004 - 10:46
When I have enough saved up. I am very intersted in puchasing this desktop. Nothing bad about it, that I see, besides for a few flaws, like pre-installed Xp with no extra disk, no speakers or monitor.


I do not know much about parts so any comments, good or bad, would be appreciated. Right now this looks 10x better then the computer I am currently running on ;)


http://www002.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/s...ackard+Desktops (http://www002.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/sku.asp?PageType=1&Sku=560428&bcFlag=True&bcSCatId=3&bcSCatName=Technology&bcCatId=71&bcCatName=Computers&bcDeptId=1862&bcDeptName=+Desktops&bcClassId=141817&bcClassName=Hewlett%2DPackard+Desktops)
thats a nice pc
iv got a hp added some lights to it and a nother hard drive

if u r goin to get a nother hard drive for it l8r on then u have to put it in the spair a drive space but if it dont have a spare space then ur buggerd :rolleyes:

[angelique]

Thanks guys for your comments. I've been buying parts for this one as things are going left and right. So is it much cheaper to purchase the parts then a whole new system?

I was kinda a little iffy on buying this from a store as well, as I have heard it is better to a customized one where you can exchange new parts later on.


If buying parts cheaper is the case, can you guys recommend me the parts and where to buy them offline. As I do not like buying from online stores ;).

Also most stuff I do not how to put in myself, so I'm little nervous about that as well.

I live in the US and can not not buy parts online from other countries. I live in Pennsylvania. So anywhere near Wilkes Barre / Scranton would be good :)




They will take advantage of your computer knowledge. DEMAND WHAT YOU WANT, YOUR THE CUSTOMER!


funny you should say that. I went with my brother about a year ago to get his computer at a Rental store. And the proecessor they had in it was not very good, and all there computers had the same processor. I was demanding this guy to let us see better computers. He told me that was all they had, and my brother, being the idiot he is, bought the thing anyway. They charged him, as he told me, like $1600 for it, but in payments. Not sure if he was exagerating or not. To this day he still thinks he has the best computer on earth lol. The poor kid, lol.

[GrubMe]

You have the money, you have the power...
besides power, a-power really? they fak up the computer odd...
Anyways who cares... I buy parts where ever I see a good deal ;) .

Thats why I dont mess with BIOS except for purposes I know.

[zapjb]

zapjb Posted on: 30 December 2003 - 03:41

I DON'T play modern games. I am going to use dependable parts ONLY. Reliability is paramount to my needs. These are the parts I'm considering. Pasted from my newegg wishlist. I'm on dialup. Do I need a seperate modem or does my proposed mobo have one integrated? My goal is not chase around hardware problems as on my current setup. The only hardware I'll be transfering from my old puter will be a TDK cdrw & my Altec Lansing 3 speaker system. Low cost is definite factor in these hardware picks. But also I don't want mess with this system for at least 2 years after I assemble it. I know that I'm choosing integrated video (I'm NOT a gamer). I also know that I can get a cheaper case, but I want the super reliable Antec psu. I hope to in the next 4 months purchase these parts all from newegg. Any constructive comments, welcomed. Thanks.

Antec Solution Series Case with 350W Power Supply,Model:SLK3700AMB,Retail.
Specifications:
Case Type: Mid-Tower
Color: Metallic bronze
Material: Steel
Drive Bays: 4x5.25'',7x3.5''
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports: USB2.0x2
Power Supply: 350W(SL350)Smart Power
Cooling System: 120mm Fan x 1
Mainboard Compatibility: Standard ATX
Dimensions: 18.3''x8.25''x18.6''
Special Features: Removeable Side Panels and Drive Cages. more info-> N82E16811129122 $73.00

Asus nForce2 IGP Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU, Model "A7N8X-VM" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket A AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred/Barton Core Processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 IGP + MCP
FSB: 333/266/200MHz
RAM: 2x DIMM support Dual Channel Non-ECC DDR400/333/266 Max 2GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 100/133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X(1.5V), 3x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,1xVGA,1xLAN,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6-Channel Codec
Onboard Video: GeForce4 MX GPU + TV encoder
Onboard LAN: Realtek 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Form Factor: Micro ATX
Others: NVidia nVIEW Dual Display Architecture more info-> N82E16813131466 $89.99

AMD Athlon XP 2500+ "Barton", 333 FSB, 512K Cache Processor - Retail
Specification
Model: AMD Athlon XP 2500+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 1.83GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included) more info-> N82E16819103379
$90.00

Crucial 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-2700 - OEM
Specification
Manufacturer: Crucial
Speed: DDR333(PC2700)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 2.7GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820145059
$70.00

SAMSUNG SFD321B/LEB 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, OEM Driver Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 1.44MB
Average Access Time: not specified
Interface: 34 Pin Standard Floppy Connector
Form: 3.5 inch
Media Type: All Standard 1.44MB & 720KB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes
Features: Easy to Install, Just Plug & Play, For IBM5 & 100% Compatible Computers
Remark: OEM 1 Year Warranty more info-> N82E16821103202
$5.59

Western Digital SpecialL Edition 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model WD1200JB, OEM Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 120GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Features: High-performance with 8MB Buffer
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Remark: OEM Drive Only more info-> N82E16822144118
$94.00

Samsung 16X DVD Drive, MODEL SD-816BEP, OEM
Specifications:
Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Interface: E-IDE/ATAPI
Buffer: 512KB
Access Time: 90 ms
Data Transfer Rate: DVD: 21,600 kByte/s, CD: 7,200 kByte/s
Features: Reduces noise and vibration with DVA, Stablizing DVD Play Back
Remark: OEM Pack (see pictures for details) more info-> N82E16827151026 $32.00

Subtotal »
$454.58


This is what I ended up getting & building. Except I skipped a new FDD & used my old one. Also I opted for the 80GB WD instead. Substituted the LiteOn DVD rom also. Thing runs real sweet. Had to buy a modem at Circuit City. Still about $450 out the door.
NewEgg rocks! Their customer service is the best.
If you are determined to go brick & mortar stay away from CompUSA.

Again it's finished & running very cool & silent. And I built it all myself & saved $400-$800 in the deal by doing so.


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