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Mad Cat
03-29-2004, 04:10 PM
Alienware (http://www.alienware.com) are now selling an Athlon 64 FX-53 system, but I haven't heard a lot about a proper release yet. Also, looking around the Alienware site says nothing about a delayed shipping date for said PC.

Its on the AMD site, pretty silent release if you ask me. Am I just not up to date?

kaiweiler
03-29-2004, 04:14 PM
I would have thought that they would definatly have advertised this a lot more then they did, I didn't hear anything about it untill now...
wierd

adamp2p
03-29-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Mad Cat@29 March 2004 - 08:10
Alienware (http://www.alienware.com) are now selling an Athlon 64 FX-53 system, but I haven't heard a lot about a proper release yet. Also, looking around the Alienware site says nothing about a delayed shipping date for said PC.

Its on the AMD site, pretty silent release if you ask me. Am I just not up to date?
http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=2002

Mad Cat
03-29-2004, 04:43 PM
Not exactly a giant full blown release though was it?

atiVidia
03-29-2004, 06:35 PM
they did a silent release for a reason: so that they can kill the stocks of 51s that they still have left.

itll never happen tho. they shouldve been smarter, like intel when they released 478, and advertized it a bit more (altho intel was also awfully silent about 478 <_<


get used to it. the only heavily advertized pin upping is prescott, and those no longer use pins on the chip :lol:. but prescott seems like a disappointment <_< ... Intel waited to kill many of their p4EEs before prescott, but they are still making p4ees cuz they know that many ppl could use it...

correct me if im wrong...

lynx
03-29-2004, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by adamp2p+29 March 2004 - 16:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 29 March 2004 - 16:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@29 March 2004 - 08:10
Alienware (http://www.alienware.com) are now selling an Athlon 64 FX-53 system, but I haven&#39;t heard a lot about a proper release yet. Also, looking around the Alienware site says nothing about a delayed shipping date for said PC.

Its on the AMD site, pretty silent release if you ask me. Am I just not up to date?
http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=2002 [/b][/quote]
A useful comparison of the top AMD and Intel processors.

One thing we shouldn&#39;t overlook though, these are 64 bit processors running in 32 bit mode. What will their performance be like when the full power of their 64 bit architecture is unleashed? I suspect even the P4EE&#39;s will struggle.

Mad Cat
03-29-2004, 09:01 PM
Linux 64 bit running UT2004 64 bit saw 33% improvements, and thats on Linux, which the game was not primarily made for. Just think about 64 bit optimised drivers and the whole package...

Keikan
03-29-2004, 10:37 PM
hey if they&#39;re trying to get rid of the fx-51 i wouldn&#39;t mind them giving me one :)

atiVidia
03-30-2004, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@29 March 2004 - 17:37
hey if they&#39;re trying to get rid of the fx-51 i wouldn&#39;t mind them giving me one :)
nah... id just get an opteron: i could use one...




ut2004 running under win64bit didnt change cuz windowz is a dickfucker... <_<

kaiweiler
03-30-2004, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@29 March 2004 - 18:37
hey if they&#39;re trying to get rid of the fx-51 i wouldn&#39;t mind them giving me one :)
But then you&#39;d have to get a whole new mobo too&#33;

adamp2p
03-30-2004, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler+29 March 2004 - 19:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler @ 29 March 2004 - 19:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@29 March 2004 - 18:37
hey if they&#39;re trying to get rid of the fx-51 i wouldn&#39;t mind them giving me one :)
But then you&#39;d have to get a whole new mobo too&#33; [/b][/quote]
AND registered memory&#33;

j4y3m
03-30-2004, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p+30 March 2004 - 04:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p &#064; 30 March 2004 - 04:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kaiweiler@29 March 2004 - 19:23
<!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@29 March 2004 - 18:37
hey if they&#39;re trying to get rid of the fx-51 i wouldn&#39;t mind them giving me one :)
But then you&#39;d have to get a whole new mobo too&#33;
AND registered memory&#33; [/b][/quote]
But if they give it to him free he can sell it and make £500. :lol:

Mad Cat
03-30-2004, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p+30 March 2004 - 04:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 30 March 2004 - 04:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kaiweiler@29 March 2004 - 19:23
<!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@29 March 2004 - 18:37
hey if they&#39;re trying to get rid of the fx-51 i wouldn&#39;t mind them giving me one :)
But then you&#39;d have to get a whole new mobo too&#33;
AND registered memory&#33; [/b][/quote]
Sorry, but for 90% of new chips (upgrading from old ones) don&#39;t you need a new motherboard??

delphin460
03-30-2004, 07:53 AM
the fx series and the operon use the same motherboard 940 series

GrubMe
03-30-2004, 08:57 AM
<_< alienware is crap and not worth your money...
They cost mostly over 5G - 20G.

tesco
03-30-2004, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Mad Cat+30 March 2004 - 02:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 30 March 2004 - 02:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by adamp2p@30 March 2004 - 04:44

Originally posted by kaiweiler@29 March 2004 - 19:23
<!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@29 March 2004 - 18:37
hey if they&#39;re trying to get rid of the fx-51 i wouldn&#39;t mind them giving me one :)
But then you&#39;d have to get a whole new mobo too&#33;
AND registered memory&#33;
Sorry, but for 90% of new chips (upgrading from old ones) don&#39;t you need a new motherboard?? [/b][/quote]
half true. amd chips have always used the same pin count and placement, and the motherboard companies always add support for more chips to the bios, but i guess it would be limited by the chipset youve got. for example you cant run a 2500+ on my motherboard, because mine only runs at a fsb of 266. but if it were possible there probably would have been a release for the bios including all new processors.

i guess 90% does sound right...

atiVidia
03-30-2004, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by GrubMe@30 March 2004 - 03:57
<_< alienware is crap and not worth your money...
They cost mostly over 5G - 20G.
someones an asshole <_<


apparently you never went to alienware... the pcs that they make are around 3g... and NEVER at 5g or above when they make them...


and never at 20g hen customized... not our fault that you are an impoverished fool who happened to find an internet connection :angry:


oh yea btw: their PCs are NEVER crap: youre talkin about a company who holds universal recognition for their gaming rigs... look at the facts first my friend... their rigs carry unbelievably reliable warranties.
they are very overclocker friendly
they carry very nice cooling systems
their rigs are VERY reliable. reliable ram (almost always corsair)
quiet HDDs (usually seagate)
overclocker friendly CPUs (made in malaysa[sp?])
motherboards are ready for the future
for gods sake even the volt mods are cooled&#33;&#33;&#33;

i think that quality like that deserves a high price tag dont you think?

j4y3m
03-31-2004, 04:18 AM
Yes if I was rich I&#39;d get an Alienware they&#39;re definatly worth the money.

kaiweiler
03-31-2004, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by j4y3m@31 March 2004 - 00:18
Yes if I was rich I&#39;d get an Alienware they&#39;re definatly worth the money.
I dunno about worth the money, but they certainly are good systems....

lynx
03-31-2004, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by GrubMe@30 March 2004 - 08:57
<_< alienware is crap and not worth your money...
They cost mostly over 5G - 20G.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just saw your system spec&#39;s, and you called Alienware crap.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mad Cat
03-31-2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by lynx+31 March 2004 - 09:22--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 31 March 2004 - 09:22)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-GrubMe@30 March 2004 - 08:57
<_< alienware is crap and not worth your money...
They cost mostly over 5G - 20G.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just saw your system spec&#39;s, and you called Alienware crap.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
Its true in the way that Alienware is over expensive. For example I could easily find a very similar system (yes, premade) for the same price bundled with a monitor.
Whats better: Flashy Hard Drive and Power Lights {Basically what that little Alien&#39;s head on Alienware is}
A monitor