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Mr. Elmo
03-31-2004, 01:21 AM
well, the refurb 9500 i bought a new egg a couple months ago went kaboom and im in search of a new card. although the 9500 was nice, i dont think i need a card that good as i played cs and morrowind w/ it ;) .

i already looked at bigdawg guides......he grew up so fast.... :cry1: , i remember the good ol' days where he didnt knwo that much.....anyways, that guide didnt really tell me a lot (no offense) , so :helpsmile: , the 5200 is really starting to look good right now....cheap, plays cs and morrowwind, and....uh....cheap.

tesco
03-31-2004, 01:25 AM
that sucks...what did u do to it? anyway, i guess the 5200 would be fine for you, or the 9200. make sure not to get the 256mb of those cards, and also dont get the 5200XT or the 9200SE, they are the crap versions of those cards...

bigdawgfoxx
03-31-2004, 02:05 AM
I would get the 9200 just cuz its an ATI lol. And with my guide its just to show which cards are better..if the 9200 is better then the 5200 for the same price, go with the 9200.

Mr. Elmo
03-31-2004, 02:16 AM
i dunno, overheat i guess...i started seeing artifact and than a couple hours later....KABOOM (like when bomb blow up in cs)

but the 9200 is not dx9....not that the 5200 can handle any dx9 features, at least it will have support for it so i can play on low setting lol

tesco
03-31-2004, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@30 March 2004 - 21:16
i dunno, overheat i guess...i started seeing artifact and than a couple hours later....KABOOM (like when bomb blow up in cs)

but the 9200 is not dx9....not that the 5200 can handle any dx9 features, at least it will have support for it so i can play on low setting lol
well the 5200 does add a few features to games which u cant get with other non directx9 cards.

for example, i tried out that 5200 on my computer on the weekend with nfsunderground and i was able to have headlights on the car etc.

just little details get added with direct x 9. and the performance was around the same as my mx440.

but not only direct x 9 u also get nvidias awsome drivers :) .i hate ati's drivers, nvidias look betetr and are easier to find stuff in and get used too.

gungrave
03-31-2004, 03:10 AM
that sucks

i got a 9200 u should get one its good, it does what its told :)

Mr. Elmo
03-31-2004, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by gungrave@31 March 2004 - 03:10
that sucks

i got a 9200 u should get one its good, it does what its told :)
lol not if you tell it to go play morrowwind on max setting :P

hmm 5200 performs as well as a mx440? :blink: :blink: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: .....*crosses out 5200 on notebook*

any suggestions? 5600xt?

muchspl2
03-31-2004, 03:38 AM
what kind of price range, I see good deals all the time @ http://www.fatwallet.com and http://www.gotapex.com

Mr. Elmo
03-31-2004, 03:39 AM
around 80-100 usd


hmmm fatwallet.com...im intimedaited to look there......i def. do no have a fat wallet.

tesco
03-31-2004, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+30 March 2004 - 22:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo &#064; 30 March 2004 - 22:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-gungrave@31 March 2004 - 03:10
that sucks

i got a 9200 u should get one its good, it does what its told :)
lol not if you tell it to go play morrowwind on max setting :P

hmm 5200 performs as well as a mx440? :blink: :blink: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: .....*crosses out 5200 on notebook*

any suggestions? 5600xt? [/b][/quote]
HEY&#33; The mx440 isnt that bad. :angry: It plays halo on full settings at 1024*768, at a very good frame rate...and i can play need for speed on it at 640*480 with highest settings i can get, or 1024*768 at medium settings, and both run at an average of 28fps which is pretty good.

Although I doubt it will be able to get such good results with HL2 :lol: but ill try...

Mr. Elmo
03-31-2004, 03:43 AM
i have a mx440 and it struggles playing halo at med setting on 800x600....w/ aa and af off.

you should see it on morrowind :blink: ...but it only has 64mb so that might be why

so the 5200 is a ok choice than....or should i get a mx440 since its a lot cheaper....oh wait, i heard the new splintercell dont support mx440 :blink:

tesco
03-31-2004, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@30 March 2004 - 22:43
i have a mx440 and it struggles playing halo at med setting on 800x600....w/ aa and af off.

you should see it on morrowind :blink: ...but it only has 64mb so that might be why

so the 5200 is a ok choice than....or should i get a mx440 since its a lot cheaper....oh wait, i heard the new splintercell dont support mx440 :blink:
Don&#39;t get an mx440, get AT THE VERY LEAST a 5200.

The reason why the mx440 isnt supported by splinter cell is most likely becuase it doesn&#39;t support direct x 9, but the 5200 does so it should be fine..

Oh and why did u ask if u should buy a mx440 if u already have one?

bigdawgfoxx
03-31-2004, 03:54 AM
How does an mx440 play halo on full settings? mine plays batlefield kinda wierd...

Mr. Elmo
03-31-2004, 03:54 AM
because the one i have is for my older comp...duh...lol :P and its a 64mb one

tesco
03-31-2004, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@30 March 2004 - 22:54
because the one i have is for my older comp...duh...lol&nbsp; :P&nbsp; and its a 64mb one
Well no wonder halo is slow, if its an old computer ;) .

@Bigdawg, maybe mine is like a supercharged mx440 lol, i can play both games on full...maybe because yours is PCI??

Edit: Plus my card is OC&#39;d quite a bit...but i also have AA and AF on their heightest settings (AA:4x AF:2x lol)

Mïcrösöül°V³
03-31-2004, 04:40 AM
yea, that sux that it died on you. i also have a 9500 pro, and thankfully mine hasnt done that yet. now that i read your post, i think ill go ahead and get a GPU cooler, cuz i have always felt that this card was under cooled, specially since i OC my comp. :P

Mr. Elmo
03-31-2004, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by Mïcrösöül°V³@31 March 2004 - 04:40
yea, that sux that it died on you. i also have a 9500 pro, and thankfully mine hasnt done that yet. now that i read your post, i think ill go ahead and get a GPU cooler, cuz i have always felt that this card was under cooled, specially since i OC my comp. :P
haha , mine just went dead prob cuz the previous owner oc it or something....but yea, i think u should get a fan for it.

rossco.....u play halo on max settign , w/ 2x aa and af? are u sure u have a mx440? my old system is old , but not that old....1.8 celeron, 512 mb ram but like bigdawg says, it play bf1942 weird...its skippy, and sometime there is artifact...and its not a heating issue cuz the heatsink was not hot at all.

atiVidia
03-31-2004, 06:00 PM
how bout an fx 5500? its 50 bucks and slaughters the 9200, 9600se, 5200u, and 5600se...

Mad Cat
03-31-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+31 March 2004 - 03:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 &#064; 31 March 2004 - 03:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Elmo@30 March 2004 - 22:54
because the one i have is for my older comp...duh...lol :P and its a 64mb one
Well no wonder halo is slow, if its an old computer ;) .

@Bigdawg, maybe mine is like a supercharged mx440 lol, i can play both games on full...maybe because yours is PCI??

Edit: Plus my card is OC&#39;d quite a bit...but i also have AA and AF on their heightest settings (AA:4x AF:2x lol) [/b][/quote]
Seems very strange if you have Halo 1024x768 full settings and some AA and AF. Even really high end cards struggle on Halo, which is strange since its a 3 year old Xbox game. I haven&#39;t played with the newer patches though, so megh.

EDIT: Try go for an FX5700 if possible. Froogle Search for FX 5700 (Froogle = Google&#39;s price searcher) (http://www.google.com/froogle?as_q=fx+5700&num=100&scoring=p&btnG=Search+Froogle&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&price=between&price1=&price2=&as_occt=any&cat=0&filter=1&tiled=0&safe=active)

Mr. Elmo
03-31-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by atiVidia@31 March 2004 - 18:00
how bout an fx 5500? its 50 bucks and slaughters the 9200, 9600se, 5200u, and 5600se...
whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa have i been away taht long that there is a 5500 now? are u sure its only 50 though? let me do some shopping but im sure its higher since the 5200 alone is 65....the 64 bit one is a bit higher than 50.

EDIT: atividia....YOU LIAR lol....all the 5500 are &#036;100 and its all 256mb (which i dont need, since im pretty sure the card wont take advantage of that much memory) once again, YOU LIAR :lol: :lol:

atiVidia
03-31-2004, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+31 March 2004 - 13:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo &#064; 31 March 2004 - 13:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-atiVidia@31 March 2004 - 18:00
how bout an fx 5500? its 50 bucks and slaughters the 9200, 9600se, 5200u, and 5600se...
whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa have i been away taht long that there is a 5500 now? are u sure its only 50 though? let me do some shopping but im sure its higher since the 5200 alone is 65....the 64 bit one is a bit higher than 50.

EDIT: atividia....YOU LIAR lol....all the 5500 are &#036;100 and its all 256mb (which i dont need, since im pretty sure the card wont take advantage of that much memory) once again, YOU LIAR :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
lol i guess microcenter doubled their prices :lol:


edit: lol ur a liar too i found the lowest (non-negotiated) price to be &#036;70 (http://www.directdial.com/us/shop/item/prod.asp?item=GV%2DN52128D)&#33;

not my fault that i negotiated with microcenter to slice 30 off one of their cards for me&#33;

Peerzy
03-31-2004, 06:58 PM
I have a MX440 and i can play Halo Full but with none of that AA AF one, 1024*768. The card is good and cheap, but i wouldn&#39;t buy another one and i wouldn&#39;t reccomend it. Because it doesn&#39;t support Pixal Shading 2.0 and only 1.4 it will not play newwer games (Splinter Cell PT, Prince Of Persia 2 etc etc)

i would go for a 9600, there about £70 in enlgish, not sure about US though.

atiVidia
03-31-2004, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by peerzyboy@31 March 2004 - 13:58
I have a MX440 and i can play Halo Full but with none of that AA AF one, 1024*768. The card is good and cheap, but i wouldn&#39;t buy another one and i wouldn&#39;t reccomend it. Because it doesn&#39;t support Pixal Shading 2.0 and only 1.4 it will not play newwer games (Splinter Cell PT, Prince Of Persia 2 etc etc)

i would go for a 9600, there about £70 in enlgish, not sure about US though.
about 140

Mr. Elmo
04-01-2004, 12:15 AM
its on backorder though :(


okay, new problem...a new fx5200 , or a refurbish 9600se?



i dont care atividia...u still LIAR for telling me and getting my hopes up about hte 5500 :lol:

tesco
04-01-2004, 03:59 AM
definately an mx440, OCd a little but at heart its an MX440...

http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/mycardhaha.JPG

btw, i dont have my video drivers installed because I just installed a newer version and havent restarted yet...incase you noticed...

Mr. Elmo
04-01-2004, 06:14 AM
are u sure its not a newer card in disguise? :lol:

but...5200 or 9600se