What's Wrong With Norton Av

[xxxSHARExxx]

What's wrong with Norton AV, i mean why do people hate it. It works well for me and the resources i don't mind.

Can some tell me why do people don't like Norton AV and should i change to a different AV, if so what's a good AV

[WOX]

i hate it because it never work good to me it always told me that my sistem was fine it was a lie, so i change it to kaspersky and i don't regret anything.

[peat moss]

I swear by it . I'm useing NSW 2003 PRO it has a bunch of other good tools as well.

[zapjb]

Resource hog, plain & simple. <_<

[muchspl2]

fuck it misses more than it finds
nod32 is *soposed to be better but fuck norton,
people who use norton, when you get owned by some virus think of this post and me laughing at you :)

[shn]

Originally posted by muchspl2@1 April 2004 - 23:35


people who use Windows, when you get owned by some virus think of this post and me laughing at you :)


Agreed. :)

[Rip The Jacker]

Originally posted by muchspl2@1 April 2004 - 21:35
people who use norton, when you get owned by some virus think of this post and me laughing at you :)
I will. :)

[muchspl2]

well if you log on as admin then you don&#39;t have near as a chance to fuck up your system, I&#39;d be willing to bet 90% or higher are always logged in as admin

[Rip The Jacker]

I&#39;m always logged in as the Admin. I have Norton AV Corporate Edition 8.

Am I worried? No. I don&#39;t even know why I installed it, I have something a lot of people lack, common sense. ;)

[muchspl2]

you shouldn&#39;t be logged in as admin, no one should surf/download anything while in admin
reduces your risk even more than a current av and firewall

[Rip The Jacker]

That is true. But I don&#39;t use IE or K-Lite for software. I also do extensive research on something before downloading it, and pay close attention to where I&#39;m downloading it from. When online, I&#39;m either at a forum, downloading an MP3, or downloading a video. Every now and then I&#39;ll find some new program and download it from its official site.

I don&#39;t ever worry about viruses, I guess you can say I&#39;m a bit foolish, but I think I&#39;m just a little less paranoid than most people.

[xxxSHARExxx]

so what AV you would recommend? <_<

[silent VI]

i tryed avg and i found and deleted the two files right away, norton couldnt fix the infections.....

[uNz[i]]

Actually, this is a very timely topic for me. :)

I&#39;ve been using Nortons AV since 2001.... currently running NAV 2003 Pro

It&#39;s been okay for the most part, but yeah, like zapjb said - it&#39;s a resource hog.
It slows my comp&#39;s startup time down considerably.

Also, the live updater only seems to work in fits and starts.
Sometimes it runs perfectly, other times I have to update the virus definitions manually.

I finally got around to downloading AVG last night
NAV is getting evicted over the weekend.

I&#39;m looking forward to a marked improvement in my PC&#39;s performance.

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by DrunkeNStylE@2 April 2004 - 03:15
i tryed avg and i found and deleted the two files right away, norton couldnt fix the infections.....
word :lol:

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by uNz[i]@2 April 2004 - 03:45
Actually, this is a very timely topic for me. :)

I&#39;ve been using Nortons AV since 2001.... currently running NAV 2003 Pro

It&#39;s been okay for the most part, but yeah, like zapjb said - it&#39;s a resource hog.
It slows my comp&#39;s startup time down considerably.

Also, the live updater only seems to work in fits and starts.
Sometimes it runs perfectly, other times I have to update the virus definitions manually.

I finally got around to downloading AVG last night
NAV is getting evicted over the weekend.

I&#39;m looking forward to a marked improvement in my PC&#39;s performance.
well there is plenty of things you can try, one of the best tip is turning off services the you don&#39;t need
http;//www.blackviper.com list all the resources hogs/security holes you won&#39;t ever use, you&#39;ll save a ton of resources

[zapjb]

For those thinkiing about switching AV&#39;s.
I used a lot of AV&#39;s. I know of the free ones, Avast&#33;, AVG & AntiVir.

Avast&#33; is the best of the free AV&#39;s & what I use. :01:

[uNz[i]]

Originally posted by muchspl2+2 April 2004 - 19:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muchspl2 &#064; 2 April 2004 - 19:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-uNz&#091;i
,2 April 2004 - 03:45] Actually, this is a very timely topic for me. :)

I&#39;ve been using Nortons AV since 2001.... currently running NAV 2003 Pro

It&#39;s been okay for the most part, but yeah, like zapjb said - it&#39;s a resource hog.
It slows my comp&#39;s startup time down considerably.

Also, the live updater only seems to work in fits and starts.
Sometimes it runs perfectly, other times I have to update the virus definitions manually.

I finally got around to downloading AVG last night
NAV is getting evicted over the weekend.

I&#39;m looking forward to a marked improvement in my PC&#39;s performance.
well there is plenty of things you can try, one of the best tip is turning off services the you don&#39;t need
http;//www.blackviper.com list all the resources hogs/security holes you won&#39;t ever use, you&#39;ll save a ton of resources[/b][/quote]
Yeah, big fan of Black Viper over here. B)
The services are pretty well sorted on this box. A healthy dose of paranoia saw to that. :ph34r: :lol:
My comp is reasonably new and runs great until I install NAV.
Then performance just gets kind of... ordinary. Not super slow or anything, but the change is quite noticable.

[xxxSHARExxx]

Is it a good idea to have 2 AV running?

[Aaron_T]

ive been using Norton Systemworks 2004 for months now its protected and deleted viruses from my PC excellent&#33;&#33;&#33;


it also includes great features like the speed disk and the windows check function, both work better than the windows versions of these.


but i have found that sometimes my PC can be slow, this might be the culprit, who knows? :)

[zapjb]

xxxSHARExxx&nbsp; Posted on 2 April 2004 - 10:57
&nbsp; Is it a good idea to have 2 AV running?

No you&#39;ll F*UCK up your computer if you have two resident AV&#39;s. :ghostface:

[Mullyman]

I wouldn"t take Norton2004 even if it was free....i had NAV2003 and was quite satisfied with it...then i upgraded to 2004...what a mistake....it has alot of known issues with it and the sad thing is that Symantec is quite aware of it,but they still released an inferior product...listed below are sites about Norton..first site a news article about flaws in Norton2004...second site reviews and the third site comparatives of AV"s...when you go to the third site click on comparatives then online results

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/...9199206168.html (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/16/1079199206168.html)

http://download.com.com/3302-2239_4-10223639.html

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

:devil:

[Monkster]

I have NAV 2002 running...and it works fine for me. The Autonprotect works fine...has found lotsa viruses, BEFORE they infect my system, so I&#39;m fine...also, it pays to do ur homeowkr about certain apps, etc.

[firefox]

Originally posted by xxxSHARExxx@2 April 2004 - 09:57
Is it a good idea to have 2 AV running?
no not a good idea, they will just be conflickting with each other and take up all your resoruces.

[abu_has_the_power]

recommend me the best av. doesn&#39;t have to be free

[Mullyman]

http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=56265

[abu_has_the_power]

so i should get avg? it&#39;s less resource hog and works good. but from that thread, nav is the best

[Mullyman]

QUOTE FROM THREAD:

) Norton Antivirus This is the most popular and is definitely always among the front runners in tests of virus detection and removal. It is, however, considered by some to be a bit of a resource hog

Just because it is popular,does not mean it is the best...people hear the name and just assume it is...go to the sites i recommended posted further up the page and read them carefully :devil:

[abu_has_the_power]

ok. so avg is the best, and it takes less resources. should i just get that?

[Mullyman]

By this point who cares :devil:....you try what you think is best for you and you evaluate it...everyone has their own preference and opinion about AV"s B)

[Izagaia]

Originally posted by muchspl2@2 April 2004 - 00:35
people who use norton, when you get owned by some virus think of this post and me laughing at you :)
Look for some downtime on that laugh...



Two and a half years and three versions later, I am still waiting for that "ownage". :alucard:

[SP1]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@2 April 2004 - 17:06
recommend me the best av. doesn&#39;t have to be free
id recommend u TRY BitDefender Pro =] ive found it to be good for me, jus a little tweaking in the options n it runs great.

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by Izagaia@2 April 2004 - 15:46
Look for some downtime on that laugh...



Two and a half years and three versions later, I am still waiting for that "ownage". :alucard:
will see
norton has the highest % of failure
it&#39;s also the most popular so..

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by muchspl2+2 April 2004 - 16:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muchspl2 &#064; 2 April 2004 - 16:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Izagaia@2 April 2004 - 15:46
Look for some downtime on that laugh...



Two and a half years and three versions later, I am still waiting for that "ownage". :alucard:
will see
norton has the highest % of failure
it&#39;s also the most popular so.. [/b][/quote]
what do u mean highest % of failure?

ok. i&#39;m getting nod

[firefox]

If you do decide on norton, get the corp edition, it seems to use less resources and I think it works better than the other versions of norton, but hey test them all out and see which one you like, I use two different versions on two different computers, I use Mcafee on one and Incoculate IT on another. Then I use norton corp editon at work

[shn]

Originally posted by firefox@2 April 2004 - 17:07
If you do decide on norton, get the corp edition, it seems to use less resources and I think it works better than the other versions of norton, but hey test them all out and see which one you like, I use two different versions on two different computers, I use Mcafee on one and Incoculate IT on another.&nbsp; Then I use norton corp editon at work
Thank you for obviously clearing that up.

It is home editions of Norton that are bloated at times. I have never had that problem with Corp.
Still I hear nod32 is the best. Hell Panda (http://www.pandasoftware.com/home/) is better than AVG IMO. :)

[bulio]

good thing about linux: Traditionally virus-free, no need for stupid scanners :)

[peat moss]

Originally posted by uNz&#091;i
,2 April 2004 - 00:45]Actually, this is a very timely topic for me. :)

I&#39;ve been using Nortons AV since 2001.... currently running NAV 2003 Pro

It&#39;s been okay for the most part, but yeah, like zapjb said - it&#39;s a resource hog.
It slows my comp&#39;s startup time down considerably.

Also, the live updater only seems to work in fits and starts.
Sometimes it runs perfectly, other times I have to update the virus definitions manually.

I finally got around to downloading AVG last night
NAV is getting evicted over the weekend.

I&#39;m looking forward to a marked improvement in my PC&#39;s performance.
I heard updates are few and far between is this true? AVG I mean .I would switch from NSW 2003 PRO but I would need a good reason. I know avg is free but?

edit My computer is running fine ,flying really, dont notice norton is even on till it finds a virus in my e-mails. BUT just wondering. I&#39;m missing something? My xp box boots in 30 seconds. With norton starting . :)

[peat moss]

Sorry but had to add most people that know their way around a computer will never get infected with a virus . No matter what anti virus they use. I could try 4 different ones still be happy .Why? because i scan my downloads and check my e-mails or update my security updates daily.Its simple really be informed and very carefu,l no problems B)


edit spelling oh course

[Xero Grid]

Speaking seriously, NAV doesn&#39;t catch as much as AVG or NOD32. NAV does also use more resources as well. It&#39;s really one of those, we&#39;ll do the work for you and screw it up anyway kind of anti-viruses (McAfee is so much worse though). I&#39;ve had to fix several computers that are crawling with viruses and a bunch of them in a virus vault and the person didn&#39;t even know. Go figure.

The only anti-viruses I would recommend are AVG (http://www.grisoft.com) and NOD32 (http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm). I think I&#39;m switching to NOD32 permenantly, though.

Can&#39;t decide? Just try them. It&#39;s not that difficult. But ONE at a time&#33; :lol:

-- Xero Grid --

[uNz[i]]

Originally posted by peat moss+3 April 2004 - 12:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peat moss &#064; 3 April 2004 - 12:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-uNz&#091;i
,2 April 2004 - 00:45]Actually, this is a very timely topic for me. :)

I&#39;ve been using Nortons AV since 2001.... currently running NAV 2003 Pro

It&#39;s been okay for the most part, but yeah, like zapjb said - it&#39;s a resource hog.
It slows my comp&#39;s startup time down considerably.

Also, the live updater only seems to work in fits and starts.

Sometimes it runs perfectly, other times I have to update the virus definitions manually.

I finally got around to downloading AVG last night
NAV is getting evicted over the weekend.

I&#39;m looking forward to a marked improvement in my PC&#39;s performance.
I heard updates are few and far between is this true? AVG I mean .I would switch from NSW 2003 PRO but I would need a good reason. I know avg is free but?

edit My computer is running fine ,flying really, dont notice norton is even on till it finds a virus in my e-mails. BUT just wondering. I&#39;m missing something? My xp box boots in 30 seconds. With norton starting . :)[/b][/quote]
Going by what I&#39;ve seen in the AVG Free version readme, virus definitions are updated once a month.
This looks to be about the only downside that I can find so far.

I cleaned NAV out of my system this morning and as expected, things are indeed running faster.

My PC, running NAV would take about a minute to boot.
Startup with AVG has halved that. Fast switching between XP user accounts is much quicker too.

Apart from the infrequent definition updates, first impressions of AVG are good so far.

[LTJBukem]

I&#39;d like to know what exactly you people are doing, that your computers are constantly bombarded with viri that need detecting&#33;&#33; First and foremost, safe practice is the most important measure when preventing virus infection.

Everywhere you go on the internet, you will find kids rattling on about how the most popular products are crap, and that they have found something better. If they use a certain product X, they will, without fail, have personal experience of everything else failing miserably.

The only real way to research a product is to look to credible technical sites for reviews and lab tests. Asking a message board full of kids with pretensions of leetness is pointless.

[muchspl2]

yea and..

[abu_has_the_power]

:unsure: :unsure: is it normal for nod32 to scan so fast? i ran a scan of both my hdds:
1: 45gig (total=120gigs)
2: 91gig (total=120gigs)

it finished the scan in 8 minutes&#33;&#33;&#33; nav2k4 took 30 just to finish drive #1&#33;&#33;&#33; is this normal? 8 min to scan 136 gigs? :o :o :o :ph34r:

and btw, how good is panda and avg compared to nod32? in terms of power and resource hogness

[shn]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@3 April 2004 - 15:17
and btw, how good is panda and avg compared to nod32? in terms of power and resource hogness
Why don&#39;t you try them all and make that decision for yourself. :)

http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/happy/tails.gif

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by shn+3 April 2004 - 16:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn @ 3 April 2004 - 16:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@3 April 2004 - 15:17
and btw, how good is panda and avg compared to nod32? in terms of power and resource hogness
Why don&#39;t you try them all and make that decision for yourself. :)

http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/happy/tails.gif [/b][/quote]
i can do that. now, about the 8 min thing

[Mullyman]

Yes that is normal for NOD32...that is one of it"s features,fast scanning capabilities.. :devil:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Mullyman@3 April 2004 - 18:25
Yes that is normal for NOD32...that is one of it"s features,fast scanning capabilities.. :devil:
does it catch all the viruses if it scans so many files that quickly?

[Mullyman]

christ...don"t be such a useless tit...go to their web site and read about it :devil:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Mullyman@3 April 2004 - 19:10
christ...don"t be such a useless tit...go to their web site and read about it :devil:
stop being such an ass.

[shn]

Originally posted by Mullyman@3 April 2004 - 18:10
christ...don"t be such a useless tit...go to their web site and read about it :devil:
:lol:

@abu_has_the_power - your safe with nod32...............relax dude.

http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/happy/hippie.gif

[bigdawgfoxx]

I love nortan...it always detects if im downloading a virus..has kept me virus free for 4 years

[xxxSHARExxx]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@4 April 2004 - 01:07
I love nortan...it always detects if im downloading a virus..has kept me virus free for 4 years
same its working good so far :D

But im might it to somthing else

[4th gen]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@4 April 2004 - 00:07
has kept me virus free for 4 years
Unless of course you have a virus which Norton can&#39;t "see" ;)

[peat moss]

Norton scaning in the background as I type. You know it &#39;s hard to knock something when it&#39;s kept you safe since 2001 B)

Ha found one Byte verify a trojan . My only knock is i have set to delete not quaratine if it can&#39;t repair why the fuck does it back up the file. Or not tell me where it came from?

[abu_has_the_power]

i must admit, i&#39;ve used norton for 3 years, and no virus has hit my pc, not even that blaster thing. let&#39;s see if nod32 can do the same

[SP1]

maybe its ur common sense thts keeping you safe n not all these virus scanners ;)

[Izagaia]

Originally posted by SP1@4 April 2004 - 07:40
maybe its ur common sense thts keeping you safe n not all these virus scanners ;)
If our common-sense were all that "great" to begin with, we would not need all these virus scanners. ;)

I agree with Moss, it is very difficult to knock something that has kept my system at a relatively safe level for the last three years. Lord knows with the shit I had put on it and removed since then, legit, spyware and even malicsious-wise, I more than deserved whatever nasties that may have been instore for me.

In the end, it all comes back around to the old anxiom "don&#39;t fuck around with what works for you".

[SP1]

im not saying u wont need an anti virus because there are &#39;nasties&#39; hidden away everywhere, im just saying u&#39;ll probably rely a lot less on ur av because most ppl have the common sense to no wats most likely to be a virus.

[aoyv73]

Never had a virus hum used a/v still got hit try a online scan then see if you come up clean

[Mullyman]

Then there"s a lot of dead pussy in the world :D
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/qweg.jpg

[The_Hunter]

Well up to nortons 2003 had no problems, but with nortons 2004 i cant load onto both my computers on my network as it wont work properly on my second computer it loads ok but it wont scan and it tries to run from a different file then the other computer. anyone had this problem or got the answer to it

[abu_has_the_power]

the corporate 8.1 has no probs. i&#39;ve used it before. great av. but now, i think nod32 is pretty good. mainly cuz it uses so little resources

[silent VI]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@4 April 2004 - 09:21
i must admit, i&#39;ve used norton for 3 years, and no virus has hit my pc, not even that blaster thing. let&#39;s see if nod32 can do the same
same i switch over because of the scan time

[abu_has_the_power]

guess wat, nod32 can suck my furry balls&#33; :angry: it fucked up my bt. all my threads in Bitorrent category is because of nod32&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; i switched back to norton, and the internet disconnnections went away. if u want to use bt successfully, don&#39;t use nod32&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: :angry:


now it works fine. good old norton

[shn]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@10 April 2004 - 17:41
guess wat, nod32 can suck my furry balls&#33; :angry: it fucked up my bt. all my threads in Bitorrent category is because of nod32&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; i switched back to norton, and the internet disconnnections went away. if u want to use bt successfully, don&#39;t use nod32&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry:&nbsp; :angry:


now it works fine. good old norton
:lol:

Thanks for the info. I was going to give nod a try but I guess I&#39;ll stick with norton corp. :rolleyes:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by shn+10 April 2004 - 18:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn @ 10 April 2004 - 18:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@10 April 2004 - 17:41
guess wat, nod32 can suck my furry balls&#33; :angry: it fucked up my bt. all my threads in Bitorrent category is because of nod32&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; i switched back to norton, and the internet disconnnections went away. if u want to use bt successfully, don&#39;t use nod32&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: :angry:


now it works fine. good old norton
:lol:

Thanks for the info. I was going to give nod a try but I guess I&#39;ll stick with norton corp. :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
is it true that corp uses less resources and scans better?

[shn]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+10 April 2004 - 18:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power &#064; 10 April 2004 - 18:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by shn@10 April 2004 - 18:43
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@10 April 2004 - 17:41
guess wat, nod32 can suck my furry balls&#33; :angry: it fucked up my bt. all my threads in Bitorrent category is because of nod32&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; i switched back to norton, and the internet disconnnections went away. if u want to use bt successfully, don&#39;t use nod32&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry:&nbsp; :angry:


now it works fine. good old norton
:lol:

Thanks for the info. I was going to give nod a try but I guess I&#39;ll stick with norton corp. :rolleyes:
is it true that corp uses less resources and scans better?[/b][/quote]
Yes it is true. I&#39;m not saying that just to be saying it either. I knew it would use less anyway before I even tried it. My UNI uses it and a lot of companies use it as well. So it has to be designed to minimize resources, especially on a network.

One of the reasons it is lite is because when it&#39;s used on a network it updates it&#39;s definitions from a central server on the same network which gets the definitions from norton.

A home user only uses the client and therefore only gets defs from norton. It has it&#39;s downs. You must update manually. Which is better for me anyway. You can schedule it to update automatically if you use windows task scheduler or norton even has the option in corp I think but I never use it. And Norton implies that defs are available every 7 days, but I have updated on more than one occasion within 2 or 3 days instead of 7 so I don&#39;t know why they say that.

If Norton Corp was crap, I would not recommend it...............If I was recommending crap I would say "Try AVG&#33;" :shifty: