My Friend Needs A Decent Comp Config...

[atiVidia]

already decided:

the almost-top-of-the-line gfoce coming out on the 13th
see if u can make it an athlon 64 (fx-53 perferred)

sound card is already set...

all other options still need to be decided... make sure the mobo is not shitty...

around<s> 2000 </s> 2300 (give or take 200)

hes upped the limit on the price...

[zapjb]

For 2k make sure he has to have a top PSU. I mean none other than the Antec 430w. Don&#39;t take chances & go inferior (cheapo) on the PSU & case.
Here @ newegg is what I&#39;d get for a 2k system.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-129-115&depa=0 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-115&depa=0)
&#036;130 including shipping & your friend will a very stable base to build on. Be forwarned if you go cheapo on parts it&#39;ll bite ya. Peace.
B)

[atiVidia]

any other suggestions?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Gfoce? You mean GeForce?

Alright...&#036;2,000 is a lot of money.

Athlon FX-53 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-438&depa=0) &#036;815

2X512Mb Mushkin PC3500 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-294&depa=0) &#036;239

or if it requires ECC

2X512Mb Corsair XMS PC3200 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-468&depa=0) &#036;280

Asus KT800 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-481&depa=0) &#036;207

Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-200&depa=0) &#036;116X2

(If he doesnt need a ton of storage)

Case and PSU above look great.

&#036;1664 so far. All that stuff looks pretty good. And I think your waiting for the new graphics cards so I didnt put one

[Pitbul]

AMD FX-53 - &#036;790
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...tCode=80715-OEM (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80715-OEM)

Mobo Gigabyte GA-K8NNXP nForce3 - &#036;180
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=240777 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=240777)

Maxtor DiamondMax 120GB with 8MB buffer - &#036;109
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=100705 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=100705)

Corsair TWINX1024RE-3200LLPT 1GB Kit DDR400 XMS3200 - &#036;320
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ctCode=80097-34 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80097-34)

Thermaltake Xaser III with 420w PSU - &#036;131
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=370442 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=370442)

Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Sound Card - &#036;171
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=290226 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=290226)

Plextor PX708A Internal DVD±R/RW & CD-R/RW - &#036;173
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=173408 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=173408)

Sony 16x DVD-ROM - &#036;40
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=172438 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=172438)

&#036;1914

thats what i came up with and thats without the Video card, basically if you want a decent FX 53 comp your gonna want to pay more then 2k. cause if you get a FX-53 and the rest of the comp be trash, you might as well not get the FX-53. i&#39;d much rather go with the Athlon64 3200 or 3400+. you still get the 64-bit power but at around half the cost and it wont be out of date for a while. i&#39;ll actually be building a new system in about 2 months with a Athlon64 3400.

EDIT: you can bump the PC3200 down to only 512MB&#39;s, and also knock the Athlong FX-53 to a Athlon64 3400+ then it will be under &#036;2000 even with the new nVidia card that will be &#036;500

[adamp2p]

I STILL do not see the point in spending all that money on the FX-53. Given that it is an excellent processor and it has 64 bit capabilities, I still think that the Intel 2.8 C
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/buyersguide/2004/overclockingsystem/mar10/pic3.jpg
with PC 3500-4000 Ram and a P4P800 or P4PC800 or Abit Max 3 would be a better deal (and more fun to play with) than the FX-53. And the performance of an overclocked 2.8 C @ 3.5 or 3.6 GHz will perform similarly or better than a FX-53 in most cases. Keep in mind we are talking about over 1 GHz front side bus.

Then your friend can save his or her money and get a better case or cooling solutions (ie water). I personally think this is the WORST time to make such an upgrade. I myself have been tempted to upgrade, but what holds me back is the fact that right around the corner are some HUGE technological advances. I know I would feel stupid in less than 3 or 4 months for wasting money now, when my current system is great for the price I purchased it for, and when I purchased it (last June). That means that if I upgrade again this June or July, every month I spent less than &#036;160 per month on my system, and it will still have value when I do retire it, and my monitor should be good for at least another year, which was 1/4 of the value of my current system.


Tell your friend to read this guide (http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=1992)

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@2 April 2004 - 21:41
Gfoce? You mean GeForce?

Alright...&#036;2,000 is a lot of money.

Athlon FX-53 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-438&depa=0) &#036;815

2X512Mb Mushkin PC3500 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-294&depa=0) &#036;239

or if it requires ECC

2X512Mb Corsair XMS PC3200 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-468&depa=0) &#036;280

Asus KT800 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-481&depa=0) &#036;207

Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-200&depa=0) &#036;116X2

(If he doesnt need a ton of storage)

Case and PSU above look great.

&#036;1664 so far. All that stuff looks pretty good. And I think your waiting for the new graphics cards so I didnt put one
Excellant config there.

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by adamp2p@3 April 2004 - 00:54
I STILL do not see the point in spending all that money on the FX-53. Given that it is an excellent processor and it has 64 bit capabilities, I still think that the Intel 2.8 C
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/buyersguide/2004/overclockingsystem/mar10/pic3.jpg
with PC 3500-4000 Ram and a P4P800 or P4PC800 or Abit Max 3 would be a better deal (and more fun to play with) than the FX-53. And the performance of an overclocked 2.8 C @ 3.5 or 3.6 GHz will perform similarly or better than a FX-53 in most cases. Keep in mind we are talking about over 1 GHz front side bus.

Then your friend can save his or her money and get a better case or cooling solutions (ie water). I personally think this is the WORST time to make such an upgrade. I myself have been tempted to upgrade, but what holds me back is the fact that right around the corner are some HUGE technological advances. I know I would feel stupid in less than 3 or 4 months for wasting money now, when my current system is great for the price I purchased it for, and when I purchased it (last June). That means that if I upgrade again this June or July, every month I spent less than &#036;160 per month on my system, and it will still have value when I do retire it, and my monitor should be good for at least another year, which was 1/4 of the value of my current system.


Tell your friend to read this guide (http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=1992)
heres why: sometime this year, XP 64 bit will come out. linux 64 is already out, and all games and other things running on it report EXCELLENT PERFORMANCE. reviews from xbit labs and others show that the fx53 beats the p4ee under most conditions.


also there is no fsb on the fx53 (according to what i heard. some others report a 1600mhz bus...) so...

his decision is set: its gotta be an fx 53..... also i am sure that many people will agree with this one.

@bigdawg: slip of the finger with the "gfoce" on my part. nice specs tho. the one issue is that he needs space so he already has a 200gig hdd in mind for about the same price. nice idea tho...

[bigdawgfoxx]

Aight just get a nice seagate 250GB HDD.

Does he want a geforce card or what?

[atiVidia]

hes gonna get a new 1 on the thirteenth of this month

[bigdawgfoxx]

So are those the new cards coming out that hes getting? I would wait for ATI...but its his call

[tesco]

Originally posted by atiVidia@3 April 2004 - 18:49
hes gonna get a new 1 on the thirteenth of this month
he should definately wait until ati&#39;s cards are out&#33; what if the new nvidia cards turn out to be not so spectacular then ATI&#39;s come out, which are &#036;5-&#036;10 cheaper because their is no bridge and they tun out to be super fast getting double teh benchmark scores and hes stuck with the nvidia, that would suck :rolleyes:

:lol: :lol:

[atiVidia]

hes getting it half price: his dad works for nvidia.

super-bump. im still accepting configurations.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by adamp2p@3 April 2004 - 05:54
I STILL do not see the point in spending all that money on the FX-53. Given that it is an excellent processor and it has 64 bit capabilities, I still think that the Intel 2.8 C
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/buyersguide/2004/overclockingsystem/mar10/pic3.jpg
with PC 3500-4000 Ram and a P4P800 or P4PC800 or Abit Max 3 would be a better deal (and more fun to play with) than the FX-53. And the performance of an overclocked 2.8 C @ 3.5 or 3.6 GHz will perform similarly or better than a FX-53 in most cases. Keep in mind we are talking about over 1 GHz front side bus.

Then your friend can save his or her money and get a better case or cooling solutions (ie water). I personally think this is the WORST time to make such an upgrade. I myself have been tempted to upgrade, but what holds me back is the fact that right around the corner are some HUGE technological advances. I know I would feel stupid in less than 3 or 4 months for wasting money now, when my current system is great for the price I purchased it for, and when I purchased it (last June). That means that if I upgrade again this June or July, every month I spent less than &#036;160 per month on my system, and it will still have value when I do retire it, and my monitor should be good for at least another year, which was 1/4 of the value of my current system.


Tell your friend to read this guide (http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=1992)
The FX series has a 1600 Mhz FSB :P :P

[atiVidia]

well thats as close to an unlimited bus as we can get lol

lets see some more configs ppls&#33; i only saw two&#33;

[Marius24]

sorry to go oftopic but ATIVIDIA how come in Aquamark results in your sig your graphics card is a NVIDIA, i thought u were ati fan? :rolleyes:


:lol:

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by atiVidia@6 April 2004 - 15:18
well thats as close to an unlimited bus as we can get lol

lets see some more configs ppls&#33; i only saw two&#33;
What more is there to see??

Something more fun would be to get an FX 51, but buy a monster cooling setup (Vapochill&#33;&#33;&#33;) and overclock it to act like a hypothetical FX 61 :P

All you need to know is:
Athlon 64 series chip
Motherboard: VIA KT800 Chipset for all out performance
NForce Pro 150 Chipset for better features
PC3200 or higher RAM (REGISTERED ECC RAM ONLY FOR FX PCs&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;)

Some nice case.

Some nice PSU.

The graphics card you said

Audigy 2 ZS and 7.1s

DVD writer

A RAID array of WD Raptors, or Maxtor/Seagate equivelants.
(could go for RAID SCSI Maxtor Atlas 10k RPM [146gb each]) if you really want to splash out.

EDIT: A better configuration for hard drives would be:
Two super fast SATA or SCSI hard drives (you&#39;ll probably need a PCI SCSI controller for SCSI drives, pretty cheap though) [on this would be the Windows installation, games installs etc, and the swap file]
Two great hulking 250GB 7200RPM IDE hard drives (on this you would put My Documents etc, and for mass storage purposes)

[VenomSniper]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+6 April 2004 - 09:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 6 April 2004 - 09:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@3 April 2004 - 05:54
I STILL do not see the point in spending all that money on the FX-53.&nbsp; Given that it is an excellent processor and it has 64 bit capabilities, I still think that the Intel 2.8 C
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/buyersguide/2004/overclockingsystem/mar10/pic3.jpg
with PC 3500-4000 Ram and a P4P800 or P4PC800 or Abit Max 3 would be a better deal (and more fun to play with) than the FX-53.&nbsp; And the performance of an overclocked 2.8 C @ 3.5 or 3.6 GHz will perform similarly or better than a FX-53 in most cases.&nbsp; Keep in mind we are talking about over 1 GHz front side bus.

Then your friend can save his or her money and get a better case or cooling solutions (ie water).&nbsp; I personally think this is the WORST time to make such an upgrade.&nbsp; I myself have been tempted to upgrade, but what holds me back is the fact that right around the corner are some HUGE technological advances.&nbsp; I know I would feel stupid in less than 3 or 4 months for wasting money now, when my current system is great for the price I purchased it for, and when I purchased it (last June).&nbsp; That means that if I upgrade again this June or July, every month I spent less than &#036;160 per month on my system, and it will still have value when I do retire it, and my monitor should be good for at least another year, which was 1/4 of the value of my current system.


Tell your friend to read this guide (http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=1992)
The FX series has a 1600 Mhz FSB :P :P [/b][/quote]
not just the fx series, but my 3200+ is 1600fsb... w00t&#33;

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by Marius24@6 April 2004 - 10:44
sorry to go oftopic but ATIVIDIA how come in Aquamark results in your sig your graphics card is a NVIDIA, i thought u were ati fan? :rolleyes:


:lol:
ati didnt work with my comp (some bios driver issue <_<)
plus, my name sez atividia (the merger of ati and nvidia in the near future...


so, i like those comp configs keepem comin lol ttyl

[Mad Cat]

Sounds to me like someone is just talking rubbish to try get respect. Sorry to seem evil, but if you know what you want (FX53, 1GB of RAM etc) why keep waiting and posting ... ?