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RealitY
04-11-2004, 09:11 PM
This guide will hopefully help those trying to figure out using NewsGroups.
I have provide links to some great guides and information you'll need.
The rest will involve using GrabIt which is a freeware News reader.

First off the best features about Newsgroups is that you will most likely MAX out your speed
on dling and also when you find a file you want there are NO quenes or waiting!!!!
To understand most of the basics read http://www.slyck.com/ng.php

Guide To Getting Setup

1. Install GrabIt from http://www.shemes.com/
Current version is 1.6.2 ßeta (build 940)

2. Once youve installed GrabIt you will be asked for your News addy.
You can get this from your ISP (not all ISP support News) or try searching at
http://www.newsbin.com/ISP.htm or http://docs.newzbin.com/Usenet:ISP_Providers

NOTE: If your ISP dosent have Usenet access you will have to get a payserver for access.
If you signup with GigaNews (http://www.giganews.com/?a=fst) you can support
the site at FST by using our refferal link at
http://www.giganews.com/?a=fst

With NewsDemon (http://www.newsdemon.com/?aflid=2273/) you can use PayPal and support
the site at FST by using our refferal link at
http://www.newsdemon.com/?aflid=2273/

3. If you've now inserted the correct addy you should see the Groups available
Simply click on "All groups on Default server"
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/DS.jpeg

If nothing shows then right click on "Default sever" and select "Refresh grouplist"
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/RG.jpeg

You can then go to "Batch" to see if you are dling the list.
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/BH.jpeg

4. Choose your dl folder preference under "Edit", "Preferences", then the "Folders" tab.

5. You will also need to find out how many files at a time your ISP allows to dl, go to "Batch" and click on the article boxes to match how many are allowed by your server. If you dont know how many are allowed once you start a dl add one at a time in sequence until you notice that articles are continually failing at a particular number, then uncheck that box leaving the rest.
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/PL.jpeg

If Your Using NZB Files Your All Set Now!!
Read How To Make NZB Files (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=91764) so you can Contributte.


Guide To Searching Groups

1. Go to "All groups on Default server".
The groups with alt.binaries are the ones you will be looking for.
Type in a word for what you may be interested in, such as "movies" (lower case).
At this point you may wish to sort them by popularity by clicking "Article count".
You should have to click it twice to bring the more popular groups to the top.
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/AT.jpeg
When you see a group you wish to dl from just double click on it.

2. Now go over to "Default server" and expand it.
Find the group you added right click on it and select "Full update"
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/FU.jpeg
You can use "Incremental update" later on.
If you wish you can view "Batch" again to make sure it's dling.

3. Once the update is finished, select the group under "Default server" and you're ready to start dling.


Guide To Getting Complete Files

When you dl large files such as movie or image files there will generally be about 50 rars files per 700mb CDR as explained in the Slyck guide, although this varies.

1. When getting ready to dl a release check how many of the rar files are available on the server for the release you are going to dl. As an example a release will have "newmv-grp.r00" through "newmv-grp.r50". I suggest you first dl the PAR/PAR2 (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=87799) file ie. "newmv-grp.PAR" or "newmv-grp.PAR2" (small file around 2k and will be highlighted in blue). Then open the file with SmartPar or QuickPar and it will show you how many rar files there are in the release. You should also dl the nfo file ie. "newmv-grp.nfo" to obtain information on the release.

2. Now go to the first rar in the series ie "newmv-grp.r00" (first rar may also be r01) and check if all the rars are there matching what the PAR file showed. A quick way to do this is to touch the first one with your mouse, then press Shift+Scroll Down until you get to the last. As mentioned in the Slyck guide the last is almost always smaller in size than the rest. You will notice at the bottom left corner you will have text showing ie. "50 files selected out of 2000". If all are there its a good bet to go ahead and dl those rar files as most files on servers are rarely corrupt. You can then extract the rar files.

You can also click the "Find" button and type in the name of the release or the file while checking all 3 boxes before pressing Enter, this will now show only the files with the search phrase you entered on that group. In order to show all the files in that group again simply click on the icon with the "green +" sign.

3. If your short of the 50 files and have only say 48 then you need to see how many PAR/PAR2 files are available ie "newmv-grp01.PAR". Par files are simple to calculate as you need 1 for each missing or corrupted rar file. However PAR2 files replace blocks, usually about 40 blocks equals 1 rar file, although this varies. Once you dl say the 48 rar files along with the 2 PAR files you'll need to complete the release, then open the PAR/PAR2 file with either SmartPar or QuickPar and it should create or repair the missing or damaged files. You should get a message you now have all the rars you'll need for the release.

4. If your still getting an error message and cannot get enough PAR/PAR2 files to repair there is still hope, first try another group for the same release ie. most releases on alt.binaries.movies are also released on alt.binaries.movies.divx or post a request within the group for fills or pars. As a last resort you can also try to get the missing or corrupted rar files on IRC, a good guide on how to do this can be found at How To Get Missing Rars For An Incomplete Archive (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=58238).

Thats it...
:D :D

GrubMe
04-11-2004, 09:22 PM
Thanks...
I've been wanting to use newsgroups with newsbin but its so confusing :frusty: .

smellycat
04-12-2004, 02:09 PM
Thats a good post REALITY.

Newsgroups are an excellent resource.
I use them all the time.

Just wanted to mention that some idiots do post viruses on the Newsgroups,
so just be wary what you download.

Typical posts are:

"Aquilara caught Nude backstage"
"My Silicon Tittys"

etc.

If the post is out of context with the Newsgroup,
eg "Britney Speares NUDE" in a dvdr newsgroup,
it's highly likely to be a virus.

If you are in adult image Newsgroup, be cautious.
I would advise avoiding such newsgroups.
There are plenty of places on the internet for such material.

4th gen
04-12-2004, 02:32 PM
I've been a newsbin pro user for almost my entire newsgroup "career". I decided to give GrabIt! a shot last night because I had a particular file I wanted to extract which only needed 9 blocks to be repairable. The way newsbin works is that if you have an incomplete rar of which the first part is missing, none of the rar will be downloaded. However, on GrabIt!, if there's a rar with the first part missing, it'll still be downloaded. Hence, using GrabIt! allowed me to repair the file and extract the film :D

However, I'll still be using Newsbin Pro for my general downloading

Nice gude though Reality :)

lee551
04-12-2004, 05:16 PM
kickass, i'll use this in the future! thanx reality. :)

abu_has_the_power
04-12-2004, 10:07 PM
great guide reality!!!! i've been waiting so long for a guide like this.


now, exactly how fast do u think i'll get with newsgroups? i have regular comcast cable. max i do is around 350kb/s to 400kb/s on bt and klite and regular http dling from good servers.

4th gen
04-12-2004, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@12 April 2004 - 21:07
great guide reality!!!! i've been waiting so long for a guide like this.


now, exactly how fast do u think i'll get with newsgroups? i have regular comcast cable. max i do is around 350kb/s to 400kb/s on bt and klite and regular http dling from good servers.
You should get between 90 and 95% of your rated connection speed.

I get an average 460-470kbps on my 512kbps connection.

fkdup74
04-12-2004, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen+12 April 2004 - 14:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen &#064; 12 April 2004 - 14:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@12 April 2004 - 21:07
great guide reality&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; i&#39;ve been waiting so long for a guide like this.


now, exactly how fast do u think i&#39;ll get with newsgroups? i have regular comcast cable. max i do is around 350kb/s to 400kb/s on bt and klite and regular http dling from good servers.
You should get between 90 and 95% of your rated connection speed.

I get an average 460-470kbps on my 512kbps connection. [/b][/quote]
i get anywhere from 350-400 kB/s, usually stays at around 350,
where as a http d/l can spike up to 750-800, but averages out to 450-500

Image Resized
[img]http://www.sighost.us/members/fkdup74/grabit_ss.jpg' width='200' height='120' border='0' alt='click for full size view'> ('http://www.sighost.us/members/fkdup74/grabit_ss.jpg')

abu_has_the_power
04-12-2004, 10:44 PM
when i click full update, it says "Unable to connect to news:119" in the batch thing. do i have to allow port 119 in my router and zonealarm?

fkdup74
04-12-2004, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@12 April 2004 - 14:44
when i click full update, it says "Unable to connect to news:119" in the batch thing. do i have to allow port 119 in my router and zonealarm?
i imagine you would definately have to forward the port in your router :unsure:
as for ZA, just grant it access, shouldnt have to specify a port, but you can

abu_has_the_power
04-13-2004, 12:02 AM
ok. now it seems to work. i get a list of random stuff. wtf? if the alt.binaries.movies is supposed to have lots of movies, it only shows like 10. do i click on find to search for something? nothing on all the movies, like rotk and stuff. i thought this is supposed to have movies? :huh: :blink:

abu_has_the_power
04-13-2004, 01:54 AM
ok. works. but there&#39;s so few movies on here. alt.binaries.movies has like 2 movies. wtf?

4th gen
04-13-2004, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@13 April 2004 - 00:54
ok. works. but there&#39;s so few movies on here. alt.binaries.movies has like 2 movies. wtf?
http://nfonews.com/

;)

abu_has_the_power
04-13-2004, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by 4th gen+12 April 2004 - 21:10--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 12 April 2004 - 21:10)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@13 April 2004 - 00:54
ok. works. but there&#39;s so few movies on here. alt.binaries.movies has like 2 movies. wtf?
http://nfonews.com/

;) [/b][/quote]
i c. thanks a lot

colt45joe
04-13-2004, 06:28 AM
nevermind i figured it out, thanks reality for the neat guide.

Adster
04-13-2004, 08:06 AM
nice guide reality will when I have time go through it step by step and learn the dam thing

delphin460
04-13-2004, 10:17 AM
hiya , thanks for the guide

ever file i click on comes up with the same respose

article not on server

i can get the full server list up and i get alt.binaries.movies

and it gives me a list of yellow and blue

but no matter how many i try i still get the same response

my system is

windows xp pro
adsl 512 isp iinet.com.au
grab it client
512 ram
2.4 gig cpu
no software firewall ( xp firewall is off too )
connected through a switch to a single port alcatel speed touch home modem


any help plz

seems i have answered my own question , is it the red ones you click on to download lol

chuckle1
04-18-2004, 04:19 AM
:( trying to retrieve grouplists on my news server gets to about 1,500 byes d/loaded then disconnects wtf am i doing wrong :angry:

4th gen
04-18-2004, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by chuckle1@18 April 2004 - 03:19
:( trying to retrieve grouplists on my news server gets to about 1,500 byes d/loaded then disconnects wtf am i doing wrong :angry:
Are you doing the full update? Who is your ISP? What do you mean disconnect? You mean your connection drops or you stop downloading the headers?

chuckle1
04-18-2004, 04:32 AM
my isp is ntl, and my connection don&#39;t drop it just stops loading headers. I read reality guide and right click default server then refresh grouplist thats when it starts to d/load it then stops

4th gen
04-18-2004, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by chuckle1@18 April 2004 - 03:32
my isp is ntl, and my connection don&#39;t drop it just stops loading headers. I read reality guide and right click default server then refresh grouplist thats when it starts to d/load it then stops
Click on refresh again and change to the "Batch" view. See if the download completes or if it stops before the full groulist is downloaded.

RealitY
04-18-2004, 07:26 AM
I&#39;ve had this happen before as well, rather strange. I have shut down GrabIt and saved the batch on prompt and then reopend resuming the batch. I have also just left it for a few minutes and it manages to continue loading, never understood why this happened though.

Other suggestion would be to reinstall GabIt making sure to completely delete its folder as long as there is nothing you need or have dl in there, which is unlikely considering...

chuckle1
04-18-2004, 11:45 AM
Tried your suggestion mate but its still the same gets to 1,444 bytes d/loaded then get disconnected message in box 1. and nothing saved :frusty:

RealitY
04-19-2004, 02:49 PM
Close GrabIt, then go to
C:&#092;Program Files&#092;GrabIt&#092;Cache&#092;GroupData&#092;Default server
Delete the "grouplist" file in that folder
Then open GrabIt and retry...

chuckle1
04-19-2004, 04:23 PM
:D nice one cheerz bro all working now :clap:

mooseman2070
04-19-2004, 06:57 PM
thanks reality, as you know ive been looking into this :)

HyE PrIdE THUG
04-20-2004, 01:00 AM
i was wondering if anyone who uses sbc yahoo dsl can download off news groups and if they could can u tell me how

RealitY
04-20-2004, 05:25 AM
Originally posted by chuckle1@19 April 2004 - 08:23
:D nice one cheerz bro all working now :clap:
Kewl...
:D :D

@HyE PrIdE THUG
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=S...t=0#entry970320 (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=ST&f=40&t=108650&st=0#entry970320)
:huh: :huh:

hungrylilboy
05-09-2004, 11:27 PM
whats the privacy/secrurity like using a newsgroup?

tracydani
05-16-2004, 07:18 PM
Great guide REALITY.

I got it all working and am playing with it but....

I use t-online and it seems to suck. No movies and only some music(which isn&#39;t my priority). Which of the pay(or even free if there are any good ones) newsgroups do you recommend? Top 5 or so if people have suggestions. I would like to get a variety of old and new stuff including tv shows.

Thanks.

TD

RealitY
05-17-2004, 07:26 AM
Well luckily my ISP is fine but you could take a look at...
http://www.newsgroupservers.net/

tracydani
05-17-2004, 12:47 PM
Thanks REALITY. I picked one last night (100 Proof News) and the speeds so far are only half of my capabilities. My isp&#39;s maxes me out but they suck.

I&#39;m gonna switch after this first month&#39;s membership and check out the others.

Interesting system though. I&#39;ve gotta new toy :D

TD

tracydani
05-17-2004, 04:56 PM
Well I caved in and got a trial subscription to giganews.

So far, all I can say is WOW. The speeds are fast and it is to 100proofnews what 100proofnews is to my isp&#39;s server.

The list for one of the groups I checked was 140mb by itself :blink: The list for the same group on 100 was only about 30mb or so.

Anyway, so far so good.

TD


EDIT:

for a music group, 100 came up with 233 results. Giga came up with 10,770.
for a tv group, 100 came up with 56 results. Giga came up with 2,729.

The exact same groups. Don&#39;t bother with 100 proof if your in the market.


EDIT AGAIN :rolleyes: :

I may have been mistaken about 100proofnews. It seems I had some filters on that hid many of the selections. I am trying again.

nesckthe44
06-17-2004, 01:54 AM
This is a very interesting and well written guide. After reading it I wanted to try my and at Newsgroup File-Sharing, unfortunately, my ISP does not provide a Newsgroup Server. There&#39;s one thing I don&#39;t understand though; Why do I need a Newsgroup server? Shouldn&#39;t it be the individual Newsgroups problem to worry about a server to host them etc.? Am I expected to pay for a Newsgroup server? Are there any free-access servers out there?

Please clarify...

RealitY
06-18-2004, 06:12 AM
Free Servers are generally slow or don&#39;t have acces to binaries which is what you most likely are looking for, so if your ISP dosent have one and you&#39;ve made sure by asking them directly than you will most likely have to pay for one that is worth using...

lee551
07-18-2004, 09:31 PM
heres a small, problem i guess, i&#39;ve noticed.

when i&#39;m updating a group(s), i get speeds of 80-110Kb/s, which is almost my connection max, which is cool. but when i&#39;m downloading only binaries, i never go above 50KB/s. :blink: i can have 3 d/l threads going at one time, and if i have 1 group updating and 2 binaries downloading, my speed automatically jumps to 80KB/s plus, but when that update finishes and starts to download a new binary, the speeds drops back down to usually 46KB/s.

is there something i can do to keep my speeds high no matter what? :(

vivitron 15
07-18-2004, 09:55 PM
you could maybe increase the number of connections you use - though this is most likely to do with the servers at the other end limiting you :)

lee551
07-18-2004, 11:38 PM
my ISP only allows me to use 3 download slots. and that still wouldn&#39;t explain why my speeds doubles when i update a group :unsure:

RealitY
07-26-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by lee551@18 July 2004 - 13:32
heres a small, problem i guess, i&#39;ve noticed.

when i&#39;m updating a group(s), i get speeds of 80-110Kb/s, which is almost my connection max, which is cool. but when i&#39;m downloading only binaries, i never go above 50KB/s. :blink: i can have 3 d/l threads going at one time, and if i have 1 group updating and 2 binaries downloading, my speed automatically jumps to 80KB/s plus, but when that update finishes and starts to download a new binary, the speeds drops back down to usually 46KB/s.

is there something i can do to keep my speeds high no matter what? :(
Some ISP limit their News Group speeds to half of their regular connection speed to supposedly avoid any possible congestion. As for updating groups it is normal to see peek speeds since you are only retrieving the headers for the groups at times even beyond your possible connection speed.

DanB
08-11-2004, 02:10 PM
Thanks for that guide Reality :D


Seems Pipex limit me to 4 connections though :unsure: Also GrabIt doesn&#39;t display the download speed right, it was telling me 65 and Netlimiters was saying 23 :blink:

exo_body
08-11-2004, 06:37 PM
hey, great guide&#33; was wondering could some one please explain why when im doing a full update on one of the movie channels my download speed will go from 50kbps to 0 and stay like that for about 10 seconds, then jump up to 30-50 for a few seconds then go back down again :blink:

DanB
08-11-2004, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by exo_body@11 August 2004 - 19:38
hey, great guide&#33; was wondering could some one please explain why when im doing a full update on one of the movie channels my download speed will go from 50kbps to 0 and stay like that for about 10 seconds, then jump up to 30-50 for a few seconds then go back down again :blink:
My speed fluctuates all the time :unsure:

{I}{K}{E}
10-31-2004, 01:50 PM
Experimental build of GrabIt 1.5.0

With this buils you dont need to download/update groups !!! just use the search function.


http://www.shemes.com/download_experimental_release.php

RealitY
10-31-2004, 06:57 PM
I was considering checking if there was an update while editing links in the guide last night and Ill say this is a great new feature. I have noticed that dling from the GrabIt Search window is a bit different, I have to select the files I want either singly or with shift plus scroll and then right click on them and select the server as in Default Server, seems double clicking or using the Grab button at the top does not start the dl from this window although still a great feature and a big time saver as well. It would also be nice if the colum width was user set and did not reset on every seach...

Peerzy
10-31-2004, 07:15 PM
Thanks for that guide Reality :D


Seems Pipex limit me to 4 connections though :unsure: Also GrabIt doesn't display the download speed right, it was telling me 65 and Netlimiters was saying 23 :blink:
NTL only lets me have 3 however no matter how many you have open you still get your files the same speed. As if your downloading 3 a one time they will be getting your download speed split into 3.

RealitY
10-31-2004, 07:37 PM
Actually my ISP allows around 400K with 4 at 100K each at so if I dl only 1 can only get 100K for that one.
They are limited individually which is why I think you want to have the max number running...

krome
11-01-2004, 09:51 PM
i can't even get any of them to connect.. all i get is communication error or unable to connect to server name...... :unsure: why is this happening?

{I}{K}{E}
11-01-2004, 10:47 PM
i can't even get any of them to connect.. all i get is communication error or unable to connect to server name...... :unsure: why is this happening?


You need to add a server.
http://www.newsbin.com/ISP.htm

krome
11-01-2004, 11:40 PM
i can't even get any of them to connect.. all i get is communication error or unable to connect to server name...... :unsure: why is this happening?

it says its full ... but its been like that for 1 hour and half.... I refresh it ...

still can't connect to anything........


got it ... i need to choose another ISP thingy to connect ..... kool this good speed here :devil:

edit... naw i thought i was going to like this but it disconnects to anything.... and nerver goes back up to the selected server.... back to BT :devil:

RealitY
11-02-2004, 04:50 AM
Have you gotten a list of Groups yet...

DanB
11-05-2004, 05:31 PM
Anyone know any good pay providers in the UK?

orcutt989
12-19-2004, 10:58 PM
This wont work for me. I tried both addresses for my ISP, and it still said "cannot connect.."

orcutt989
12-21-2004, 09:13 PM
Thanks everyone.

muchspl2
12-21-2004, 09:46 PM
http://www.yottanews.com/freeaccount.php

for a free news server, might want to add it to the guide

cpt_azad
12-23-2004, 10:17 AM
nice post, i just saw this like right now :blink:

jabby85
12-25-2004, 07:38 PM
thanks reality for the guide. followed it and i'm logged in and all is fine. my problem is being greedy and subscribing to a lot of places. not downloaded yet as i want to nkow my way round first so i cant comment about my speeds. thanks again

RealitY
12-27-2004, 03:36 AM
Guide = Good, thanks for that.

I have NTL and the newsgroup is news.ntlworld.com.

I have forwarded the port in my router and the speeds are ace. All 8 slots are available and the speeds are as near to max as makes no difference, I have a 1500kB connection. I noticed that I could use more of my bandwidth when I opened all the available slots, make sure you have done this as well as forwarding the relevant port.

I have just downloaded circa 250 Mb in a 37 mins.

Cheers for the guide.
Im glad you approve...
:P :P

Peerzy
12-27-2004, 01:40 PM
Guide = Good, thanks for that.

I have NTL and the newsgroup is news.ntlworld.com.

I have forwarded the port in my router and the speeds are ace. All 8 slots are available and the speeds are as near to max as makes no difference, I have a 1500kB connection. I noticed that I could use more of my bandwidth when I opened all the available slots, make sure you have done this as well as forwarding the relevant port.

I have just downloaded circa 250 Mb in a 37 mins.

Cheers for the guide.

Iv got the same Net connection as you. NTL has good retention wit about 6-7 days but the groups it has they do no contain all the headers that a pay server (giganews) does. And NTL is lacking some Console and DVDR groups. I manage to get a 700mb file in 1 hour 3 mins aprox and can do about 16gb a day on newsgroups.

dodgy368
12-30-2004, 12:23 AM
My server is news.freeserve.com, can't find any new(ish) movies, anyone know if I can find the latest stuff on this server? :(

sArA
12-30-2004, 12:27 AM
I am getting 'no data' responses from all the mirrors to download grabbit...so I can't even get started :(

dodgy368
12-30-2004, 12:37 AM
Sara, try the grabbit forum.

http://www.shemes.com/community/

Filliz
12-30-2004, 12:37 AM
I am getting 'no data' responses from all the mirrors to download grabbit...so I can't even get started :(

It's not the latest,but close enough:
GrabIt 1.5.0 Beta (http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/GrabIt--Beta-Download-12751.html)

sArA
12-30-2004, 12:56 AM
Thanks....here goes.... :)

RealitY
12-30-2004, 01:48 AM
Theyre working now but if not try this...
https://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0K4ZLP2USNUWM36BPLWEO8JIG4

JordoR
12-30-2004, 07:32 AM
I just want to say great guide :D helped me a lot on my downloads and was wondering if any1 could help me with something. The only free newsgroup server i have found is YottaNews that isnt with my isp. I'm not using my isp because the downloads are too slow and the groups arent fully updated.

I was wondering if anybody knew of any other free newsgroup servers other than YottaNews. Thank You in advance

iMartin
01-02-2005, 04:02 PM
Here's my problem, I'm on a small, independent ISP, (RTC Communications), and I don't know if they support this? How can I find out? (Other than calling them up and asking them.)

Filliz
01-02-2005, 04:13 PM
How about sending them an e-mail and ask them?
Or search for it on their website.

iMartin
01-02-2005, 04:20 PM
Ok, I figured most of this out thanks to the guide, but did I do it right? Does my ISP support this? I took a screen shot to show.

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/7199/newsgroup9pb.jpg

RealitY
01-02-2005, 04:43 PM
Ok, I figured most of this out thanks to the guide, but did I do it right? Does my ISP support this? I took a screen shot to show.
Yes youve got it...
:D :D

iMartin
01-02-2005, 04:49 PM
Yes youve got it...
:D :D

Yay! :01:

Too bad I'm on dial-up.... :frusty:

:lol:

KillerJupe
03-02-2005, 11:45 PM
well speakeasy.net my isp give me unlimited downloads but only 1gb total a month, are there any free ones that allow more, even if its slower?

RealitY
03-03-2005, 07:08 AM
If your referring to free news servers you can get 1gb a month account at...
http://www.yottanews.com/freeaccount.php

learncracking
03-05-2005, 05:17 PM
hey for some reoson to download grabit beta on mozilla the link is broken anyone no direct link?

Peerzy
03-05-2005, 06:00 PM
hey for some reoson to download grabit beta on mozilla the link is broken anyone no direct link?


www.google.com

Its free :)

Money Fist
04-05-2005, 06:36 PM
<-------- first time news group user
comment: oh my god!

added: lemme rephrase that "oh my fukin god!"
thats better

ZaZu
04-06-2005, 03:27 AM
I just want to say great guide :D helped me a lot on my downloads and was wondering if any1 could help me with something. The only free newsgroup server i have found is YottaNews that isnt with my isp. I'm not using my isp because the downloads are too slow and the groups arent fully updated.

I was wondering if anybody knew of any other free newsgroup servers other than YottaNews. Thank You in advance

FreeNewsServers (http://www.newsservers.net/FreeNewsServers.php)
don't know if these are any good,I use my ISP

RealitY
04-06-2005, 04:06 AM
FreeNewsServers (http://www.newsservers.net/FreeNewsServers.php)
don't know if these are any good,I use my ISP
Interesting site as Ive added it to the Guide now...

ziggyjuarez
06-08-2005, 09:35 AM
ok after a 30gb torrent fail'd on my i decided to try this news thing.i got grabit but thats where i get lost???its saying something about 6cents :huh: i dont have 6cents.i also dont know my news thinggy,you know the alt something.can some one help me who is not reality?please :)

learncracking
06-08-2005, 09:35 PM
can't get mine to connect with server anyone know what i'm doing wrong here's a pic:
i entered my info and username and password and it still wouldn't connect i think it has something to do with the 119 port at end....help plz

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/stupidfool/grabiterror.bmp


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/stupidfool/grabiterror.bmp

Peerzy
06-08-2005, 09:40 PM
Look at the picture, there is no way anyone can even see a word from that.

Filliz
06-08-2005, 10:27 PM
ok after a 30gb torrent fail'd on my i decided to try this news thing.i got grabit but thats where i get lost???its saying something about 6cents :huh: i dont have 6cents.i also dont know my news thinggy,you know the alt something.can some one help me who is not reality?please :)

See if you can find your ISP in this list (http://docs.newzbin.com/Usenet:ISP_Providers).
There you'll find all the details you'll need to set up grabit correctly.

And the 6cents? :blink:
Not sure what that is either.

ziggyjuarez
06-09-2005, 01:24 AM
http://img300.echo.cx/img300/7351/ghf7op.jpg
my isp is roadrunner

Peerzy
06-09-2005, 01:37 AM
Nothing to do with your ISP, Grabit now charges if you want to search.

Get some NZB files from www.nzbzone.com

ziggyjuarez
06-09-2005, 01:52 AM
Sorry, but as announced we have found it necessary to limit the number of users online at the same time for awhile,
for now we've set this to 800, so seeing this page means we are currently at that limit.
We've had numerous emails already with people thinking they can permanently no longer access, or they need another new account... you don't, as soon as the 'users online' number drops you will get back in.

Contributors to the site, regular posters and those with access to the Indexing beta should be auto excluded from this,
but if you see this page and you are one of these, please contact admins(at)nzbzone.com with your user name and we will check.

If you previously logged out/cleared your cookies and you think you should be able to bypass the user limit, please try to log in on the right, if you are not eligible to bypass it will send you back here, if so, please just wait a little while

http://img166.echo.cx/img166/5242/l2tz.jpg

Peerzy
06-09-2005, 01:55 AM
Refresh the page on www.nzbzone.com

By the way under Host Name you need to put in a server address.

ziggyjuarez
06-09-2005, 02:02 AM
Refreshing with no luck

learncracking
06-09-2005, 02:04 AM
ya me either do i need to put in a port or just leave it, also where can i find a server address?

ziggyjuarez
06-09-2005, 02:25 AM
ok i got a NBZ file.But it shows a can not connect.Can someone tell me what to do with the server adress part???

RealitY
06-09-2005, 02:33 AM
You can also use...
http://www.binsearch.info/

Although someone says I shouldnt post in my own Guide and says its not good enough yet manages to post himself...

ziggyjuarez
06-09-2005, 02:40 AM
i think i got it down besides the server part

Peerzy
06-09-2005, 03:01 AM
You either need to pay to use a server or use your ISP's server. Ring them up or check there website to find out if they offer newsgroups.

RealitY
06-09-2005, 03:04 AM
i think i got it down besides the server part
From the first post...
http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm
http://docs.newzbin.com/Usenet:ISP_Providers

ziggyjuarez
06-09-2005, 03:09 AM
You either need to pay to use a server or use your ISP's server. Ring them up or check there website to find out if they offer newsgroups.
i must have overlooked this in the guide :dry:

ziggyjuarez
06-09-2005, 03:11 AM
i found on yahoo some list
news.rr.com
babylon5.tampabay.rr.com
xxx.yyy.rr.com (location dependant)
wich one do i use and where do i enter it?

learncracking
06-09-2005, 12:38 PM
how would i go about posting a bigger picture i print screen pasted into paint, saved and loading into photobucket

Filliz
06-09-2005, 02:43 PM
Just use this: url-of-uploaded-picture

learncracking
06-10-2005, 01:12 PM
that's what i did it's just so fuckig small

madden player
06-15-2005, 04:42 AM
I gotta post a big THANK YOU RealitY for the awesome NewsGroups Guide For GrabIt ... I was downloading from my ISP's NNTP server in no time .. :clap:

Spicker
06-18-2005, 06:51 PM
Wow

just tried this out...and this is just amazing... :o

great speeds
thanx

Poenos
06-20-2005, 04:12 PM
For the Dutch members:

http://www.binaries4all.nl/

;)

Nardz
07-22-2005, 08:23 PM
sounds sweet ill give it a try :)

SodiumChloride
08-07-2005, 05:58 AM
So far newsgroups are giving me a headache.

I try using NZB for "Interpol - Evil" and grabit doesn't work. MY DL speed displays an outrageously high number and nothing is downloaded. This happens with every other NZB i've tried to use so far as well.

I use the search function instead, and i see what i need, but when i grab the file, it says "article not found". Bull shit! I just clicked on the fucking thing! How could it not exist?

PS: People can get into the nzbzone site without registering, just go to bugmenot.com

RealitY
08-07-2005, 06:11 AM
So far newsgroups are giving me a headache.

I try using NZB for "Interpol - Evil" and grabit doesn't work. MY DL speed displays an outrageously high number and nothing is downloaded. This happens with every other NZB i've tried to use so far as well.

I use the search function instead, and i see what i need, but when i grab the file, it says "article not found". Bull shit! I just clicked on the fucking thing! How could it not exist?

PS: People can get into the nzbzone site without registering, just go to bugmenot.com
The search function in GrabIt is based on its own server which if I recall has a 30 day retention so it will show all articles available in the last 30 days. This has nothing to do with the actual server your using as most ISP only have a 3 to 5 day retention.

I would suggest making a search and then sorting by date and then try to grab a recent article and see what happens. If you still get not found then its possible your ISP dosent even support binaries which means you cant get them at all or they dont have the group your trying to access available.

The fact is ISP service is touchy and even those that have decent access have low retention although you just have to test out a series of different things to find out. Ultimatly though a server like NewsHosting which we have a referral banner up above is the the best way to go...

SodiumChloride
08-07-2005, 06:52 AM
That's probably it. The file was posted on July 26 and today is Aug 6, too much for the isp. I might just try one of those pay things, just use my poker account to fund it :)

SodiumChloride
08-07-2005, 06:59 AM
By the way, if anyone here has cox, the retention for binaries is 6 days

ShiftyEyes
08-15-2005, 07:02 PM
Hello. I'm new to GrabIt and I've tried downloading some rar files. Unfortunately, when I notice that they've downloaded as .txt files with the same size. I tried renaming them to .rar files but they still won't open. I assume it didn't really process though it said it did. Can anyone tell me how I get the .rar files? Thanks. :)

RealitY
08-15-2005, 07:18 PM
Whats the actual size of the text files...

ShiftyEyes
08-16-2005, 12:32 AM
Whats the actual size of the text files...Each text file is about 47mb. I looked more into the problem and it said Grabit probably couldn't decode the message. I've tried several programs that might've been able to, but no real luck.

RealitY
08-25-2005, 05:25 PM
I suggest a full uninstall and a reinstall...

Santa
08-28-2005, 12:30 AM
first got "offered " these today by a l33t member
i will try it out

Nikola2005
09-23-2005, 01:22 PM
Hey guys
This is my first time trying to use this technology and im completing lost. i read the guide/tutorial that was provided (thanks for that). I understand what it is trying to do but what im having a problem with is that it cannot connect to the newsgroup. My ISP is TPG in Australia, i checked that it supported this technology and it did. I believe that i followed the steps but i am still getting the following message..... :cry:

"Unable to connect to news. tpg.com.au:119"
:blink:
Has this happend to anyone else because i really need some support. Please guys help me out, any and all info/support would be great

Thanks

RichardQWERTY
10-28-2005, 08:03 PM
RealitY, thanks for posting your tutorial, I'm thinking off subscriving to a Usenet service and your post answered a lot of the questions I hade!

:)

Samurai
10-31-2005, 04:32 AM
Hey guys
This is my first time trying to use this technology and im completing lost. i read the guide/tutorial that was provided (thanks for that). I understand what it is trying to do but what im having a problem with is that it cannot connect to the newsgroup. My ISP is TPG in Australia, i checked that it supported this technology and it did. I believe that i followed the steps but i am still getting the following message..... :cry:

"Unable to connect to news. tpg.com.au:119"
:blink:
Has this happend to anyone else because i really need some support. Please guys help me out, any and all info/support would be great

Thanks

For user name and password, are you using your own ISP user name / password?

For example, if your account name (to log on) is nikola456 and password is 12fd136svh then input those. If your unique user name and password don't work, ring your ISP and ask them what you need to access newsgroups. They may have a seperate account for those wishing to use them.

DrBeerMan
11-02-2005, 03:03 AM
Thanks alot for this Guide! Much Appreciated! :-)

5h4rk
11-05-2005, 05:31 PM
I can't get my New Addy from my ISP... What sould I do? Im from Chile...

RealitY
11-06-2005, 09:53 PM
I can't get my New Addy from my ISP... What sould I do? Im from Chile...
Try calling and asking them although they may not have Usenet access as not all do...

T-Kimura
11-12-2005, 08:14 PM
wow, thanks.. this was really helpful.

minitiss
11-21-2005, 07:26 PM
I tried to download some file with NZB but when the downloading was complete I saw that the files where *.txt and every file 0kb.
What's wrong?

RealitY
11-21-2005, 07:41 PM
The server your using docesent have enough retention to get the files your trying to grab so theyre not there anymore. If your using your ISP service then its most likely that they have low retention. Make sure your not grabbing something that is to old for your service. If you still have this issue with files that are recent then you may have to look into a payserver to access Usenet service. The best deal around is NewsHosting which we are an affiliate for here at FST and you can support the site by signing up through our banners above. You can also use our referral link at...
http://www.newshosting.com/?a=51500

kayvanblue
01-04-2006, 08:18 PM
great great guide thankssss

wenlez
02-28-2006, 04:50 PM
wait, is newserver universal?
because what if the file is storeed somewhere else and i signed up for another server, how can I download the files then after i dled the NZB file?

tesco
03-01-2006, 03:16 PM
wait, is newserver universal?
because what if the file is storeed somewhere else and i signed up for another server, how can I download the files then after i dled the NZB file?
Yes it is 'universal.'
All servers will have the file you want, as long as it's within it's retention.:)

movbuff
03-01-2006, 07:12 PM
Not all servers carry all groups. Your client is set to what server you use.

wenlez
03-02-2006, 04:17 PM
any free servers out there? i really want the adam and eve DVD, but i just don't have news subscribe.

does comcast cable prvide new server for their users?

RealitY
03-02-2006, 05:27 PM
Think they still offer service through GigaNews though its capped at 2GB a month I think...

wenlez
03-03-2006, 06:50 PM
2 GB a month? i can't even get a DVD.

RealitY
03-03-2006, 07:12 PM
Then you might consider a payserver like NewHosting which the site has a refferal for...
http://www.newshosting.com/?a=51500

black96gtvert
03-18-2006, 05:57 AM
im such i nub at this. When i download a show or something it downloads into like 50 text files what am i suppose to do?

Zequabie
04-04-2006, 02:31 PM
I've known about usenet for a long while, but never used a application because I found the whole usenet thing complicated. Thanks to your guide, I'm setup and downloading.

AllMusic
04-17-2006, 12:51 AM
editing

snowprince
04-30-2006, 06:17 AM
great guide this is. thanks a lot

telaensarto
05-15-2006, 02:23 AM
Hello friends, im really new to the usenet, im triying to download a game, i found a nzb file with a bunch of binaries files and now that i have it i dont know what to do with it, sorry if i sound dumb.

Thanx in advance.

RealitY
05-15-2006, 06:10 AM
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=89795

Bh4i
06-19-2006, 12:21 PM
Nice guide, but i prefer Newsleecher :)

NoWeR
06-19-2006, 06:51 PM
thanks, nice guide!

shineget
07-05-2006, 12:52 AM
edit: nevermind.

anyway, thanks for this. :)

pezze
07-10-2006, 08:04 PM
thanks a bunch for the guide!

digitrifecta
08-23-2006, 04:17 PM
@RealitY, This is an awesome thread, I wish more people would use the Usenet to share content instead of P2P, I signed up for Newshosting after a friend turned me on to them and never looked back. If people only knew what they were missing in terms of dl speeds and ques etc, I think most people would drop P2P like a bad habbit :)

@ReaLity wrote:

If you signup with NewsHosting you can support
the site here at FST by using our refferal link at
http://www.newshosting.com/?a=51500

tall.gooner
09-21-2006, 08:50 PM
i'm using grabit with newsdemon and my isp is a 10mb ntl connection yet my max download speeds are around 1.5mbs, what am i doing wrong

artsluver
10-07-2006, 06:46 AM
Hi,

I have been trying to figure out the NG's for a while now, glad to have found this forum and this thread. Been using torrents for a long time but have heard the NG route is a better way to go.

I have a question about Grabit which I have DL'd and installed.

In OE there appear to be 8766 entries in the group alt.binaries.multimedia.sitcoms however in Grabit there appear to be only 493.

Is there a way to get all 8766 entries to show up in Grabit? I have looked through the preferences but seem to find anywhere to set the number of post it gets.

Cheers!

InspiredMind
10-11-2006, 10:17 PM
Nice guide. I now understand what NZB files are and how to make use of them. Sadly, after installing Grabit, I've now discovered my ISP does not have alt.binaries.warez on their list, which is the one the NZB file I opened wanted to go to. Various other binary and warez lists where in there but not that one. Oh well. Back to bittorrent and P2P for me...

Suphix
10-16-2006, 11:40 PM
wow, i was allways scared of newsgroups... i tryed it a while back and just couldnt figure it out... and just now i had it up and running in less than 10min!

just... do you download all my NZB files off this site? or are there other sites i can visit (when i look at the binarys for my server my brain just hurts :P lol)

Tmaster
10-17-2006, 01:47 PM
thx

tdoar
11-11-2006, 05:50 PM
Thanks, gonna try it finally.

wisky
11-12-2006, 01:42 AM
Great guide, just started with newsgroups and this helped out a lot, cheers

xgt
11-25-2006, 06:00 PM
hey! first of all, great guide! but im having this problem, on the majority of the servers i only get imcomplete files, except on national servers. is this because my isp has a crappy newsgroup server or is it something else? like some settings that i have to change?
thanks

jaum
11-29-2006, 04:23 AM
thanks for the guide :)

utunes
12-10-2006, 02:54 PM
thank you, this really helped

grchl3
12-23-2006, 04:53 PM
Awesome guide! Thanks for putting this together.:)

rbh
01-21-2007, 02:59 PM
awesome tutorial! never used this resource before but i was up and running in about 10 minutes or so and finding it very useful!:naughty: thank you!

killswitx
01-24-2007, 02:52 PM
great tut, i always wanted to start using usenet, thanks man!

empaza
01-30-2007, 03:27 PM
thnx for the guide. I should have read this guide b4.

bcpnikhil
01-31-2007, 05:58 AM
thx. guide's amazing

pplucky
01-31-2007, 10:12 AM
Hi there!

Yesterday I freshly installed GrabIt and used it to download 2 NZBs from the forum. The odd thing is that, instead of downloading the attachments in the news posts, the proggy downloaded something into the Cache folder instead of the files.

Previously I had the program installed and it worked differently.

Everything seems to have been downloaded, so I just need to know how to convert this to the files and how to avoid this. I want the program to download the files, like I had before.

TIA,
PPlucky

geen
01-31-2007, 01:27 PM
Hi there!

Yesterday I freshly installed GrabIt and used it to download 2 NZBs from the forum. The odd thing is that, instead of downloading the attachments in the news posts, the proggy downloaded something into the Cache folder instead of the files.

Previously I had the program installed and it worked differently.

Everything seems to have been downloaded, so I just need to know how to convert this to the files and how to avoid this. I want the program to download the files, like I had before.

TIA,
PPlucky

The chance is your files aint on the server anymore, have you checked the date of the nzb and your retention ?

wupti
02-07-2007, 09:51 AM
Have been waiting to find a guide on these newsgroups, ty very much :)

stumbleover
02-16-2007, 01:34 PM
I've installed grabit, i think its working ok because I've got a list of newsgroups.
The next thing i would like to do is download a NZB file from this site.
Can anyone tell me if i need to download the zipped file as well?
And can anyone tell me what to do when i've downloaded these files.
Do you download them into grabit download folder ?
I would be gratefull for any info, cheers

Chewie
02-18-2007, 08:25 AM
I've installed grabit, i think its working ok because I've got a list of newsgroups.
The next thing i would like to do is download a NZB file from this site.
Can anyone tell me if i need to download the zipped file as well?
And can anyone tell me what to do when i've downloaded these files.
Do you download them into grabit download folder ?
I would be gratefull for any info, cheers
The zip file contains only the nzb file; it's compressed and therefore is a faster download option for people on slow connections.
Download the nzb to anywhere then just open with Grabit.

Jaym
03-02-2007, 03:49 PM
are these any good?
a few mates of mine are saying they are

Vargas
03-26-2007, 01:33 AM
I've always wanted to usenet, thanks!

andra
04-23-2007, 09:12 PM
can i sort the movies in folders insted of only the rar files.

rhe
06-30-2007, 07:52 AM
Thanks for the guide i'll give it a try.

fantasyx72
08-18-2007, 04:56 AM
THank you

munaaf
08-18-2007, 06:14 PM
Wow thank you so much great perfect guide 10/10 now i can finally use it! always so confused especially d isp info bit thanks for sites :D

zema
10-14-2007, 06:02 PM
[
NOTE: If your ISP dosent have Usenet access you will have to get a payserver for access.
:D :D[/quote]

Hi

does it mean that my ISP - Chelo could have access to Usenet and I could then use it for free?

faulenroc
10-24-2007, 12:01 AM
Thank you. This guide helped very much.

punki_rach
01-14-2008, 05:47 AM
Thanks for this, have just started using grabit and everything is running smoothly now someone's told me what to do

res0r9lm
01-17-2008, 01:19 PM
Nice quide. I'm using news.verizon.net and speeds aren't bad. Speeds vary between 1200 KB/s and 1850 KB/s and I get 32 connections :yup:

lsw0794
01-18-2008, 02:58 AM
good guide

NorBis
02-21-2008, 02:12 PM
Thanks...
I've been wanting

SaRkAsM
03-03-2008, 02:41 PM
thanks for the guide, i signed up with giganews awhile back to give it a try but had no clue and could find a useful guide to get me started. Read your guide and now use my free news server from my isp and woot ;)

yungbol
03-30-2008, 03:32 AM
communications error // anyone know whats causing this

tommy2st
03-30-2008, 03:56 AM
yungbol i believe your setup is wrong... redownload it ... you may have a corupted file:batman:

yungbol
03-30-2008, 04:02 AM
tommy2st i tried many times already i even tried on my wireless connection i have verizon internet and as my addy i put news.verizon.net and i think thats where its messing up at anyone any clues?

peeruser
04-28-2008, 01:09 PM
Can anyone tell me whats the difference between Newsgroups and Rapidshare?

Kallileo
06-20-2008, 04:04 PM
Wow.. Thanks. I'm actually starting to get the hang of it now.. ;)

Why can't i find the "alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.complete_cd" group in the Default server?
It's not in there..

Kallileo
06-22-2008, 12:47 PM
*Bump*

Help?! I can't find any of the alt.binary newsgroups ..? Can someone help me please..?:ermm:

RealitY
06-30-2008, 04:48 AM
What server is it...

Kallileo
07-04-2008, 10:01 PM
It's the Default Server.
http://bildr.no/thumb/222726.jpeg (http://bildr.no/view/222726)

Skiz
07-04-2008, 10:08 PM
It's the Default Server.
http://bildr.no/thumb/222726.jpeg (http://bildr.no/view/222726)

:frusty:

How about giving us the details of the default server?

Server company?
ISP?
Port?

Kallileo
07-05-2008, 11:11 PM
:frusty:
How about giving us the details of the default server?

Server company?
ISP?
Port?

Hostname : news.online.no
Port : 119
ISP: Telenor (Norway)

marraqy
07-30-2008, 07:43 AM
Can anyone tell me whats the difference between Newsgroups and Rapidshare?

JustDOSE
08-04-2008, 09:07 PM
Rapidshare sucks compared to usenet , usenet is proper releases ; not something some kid ripped and uploaded

symphonyx
08-07-2008, 01:48 AM
Thanks alot for the tutorial, it will really help new users out.

Grabit rulez btw :)

LeorD
11-16-2008, 06:11 PM
the "To understand usenet and how it works read" link isn't working.. anyone can explain or post a new link?

jdbpogo
03-19-2009, 04:03 AM
i'm a very recent convert fron bt and am still learnig the ropes on usenet. i've been using grabit for a couple of weeks with great results. my dl speed was around 1,6 mbs but for the last few days it starts out that fast but after around 2 min. it drops down to 300 kbs. if i break the connection and restart it happens the same again. whats the deal? is it my isp or ????? ive tried different ports encypt/non its always the same now. should i try a different client? any help would be great.

cousy
05-28-2009, 09:16 PM
Hi CAn anyone help me? I am using Grab It and have signed to NewsDemon unlimited. When I start Grab It, My downloads are 600k/s for exactly 5 mins each time i start it then go down to 70k/s everytime. Does anyone know why this happens. Help would be much appreciated. Cousy

bazrippa
10-03-2009, 07:51 PM
Great guide, unfortunately my ISP doesn't support Newsgroups but i used to have a few usenet server usernames and passwords that worked in grabit for 6 or so months.
It would be nice if i could find a few more! ;);)

shganghui
08-13-2010, 10:47 AM
I can read the pics of the article .

c0ld
08-13-2010, 04:47 PM
Grabit sucks.