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BigBank_Hank
04-23-2004, 05:19 PM
Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117951,00.html)

I hope this doesn't come back to bite us in the ass a few months down the road.

I do see the bright side of this by giving thousands of people jobs and giving them some hope, but reemploying Baathists could be a risky tactic. I guess we will just have to wait and see how this plays out.

j2k4
04-23-2004, 07:09 PM
Me either, but there are reasons to believe this could work.

As you say, Hank, we'll have to wait and see.

BTW-You realize, of course, the whole plan is suspect due to it's having been linked to FOXNEWS? :huh:

Doomed to failure for sure, now. :P

J'Pol
04-23-2004, 08:11 PM
It seems to me that to allow these people to re-integrate back into their society is a sign of good faith on the part of the coalition forces.

There are obviously dangers involved in doing it, however with any luck they will be outweighed by the advantages and the move towards returning power to the people of Iraq.

This is such a good idea I suspect the UK must have suggested it, but allowed the US to announce it.

One hopes it is a step in the right direction.

Rat Faced
04-23-2004, 09:42 PM
Im sure it will improve things such as education and administration etc.

If you look, many didnt have any choice but to belong to the party, such as Teachers.

Others no doubt joined as it was the safest thing to do for themselves.

Many members of the Nazi Party in WWII, werent actually Nazi's...its just that life was much safer for them if they were in the party, than it would have been if they weren't.

j2k4
04-23-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by J'Pol@23 April 2004 - 14:11
This is such a good idea I suspect the UK must have suggested it, but allowed the US to announce it.


This is certainly no less a possiblity than any other. ;)

Perhaps Mr. Holmes could be resurrected in order to render an opinion? :D

J'Pol
04-23-2004, 11:00 PM
If you think it worthwhile.


http://www.armaghonline.com/uploads/eamonnholmes.jpg

hobbes
04-23-2004, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by J'Pol@24 April 2004 - 00:00
If you think it worthwhile.


http://www.armaghonline.com/uploads/eamonnholmes.jpg
Oh please, how can one resurrect a man who is not yet dead?

Think about the context Jpol, an "investigation"?

We need a legendary deceased Holmes who will uncover the source of the idea, got a clue yet, Scotland Yard boy?

Holmes (http://www.vkn.com/newsletters/july2003/holmes-wadd.jpg)

All that he is missing is a damn fine hat and pipe.

j2k4
04-24-2004, 12:00 AM
You two make quite a pair; kind of a high-brow Stan-and-Ollie thing, ya' know? :lol:

If I were to join, it could be a Larry, Moe and Curly escapade, huh?

I'll be, um...Moe, okay? :D

Chevy
04-24-2004, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by j2k4@24 April 2004 - 00:00
You two make quite a pair; kind of a high-brow Stan-and-Ollie thing, ya' know? :lol:

If I were to join, it could be a Larry, Moe and Curly escapade, huh?

I'll be, um...Moe, okay? :D
Only been reading for a couple of days but I can see that :lol:

J'Pol
04-24-2004, 12:40 AM
Hobbes

Fair point, well presented.

Instead of resurrecting a chap who has not yet died, which would be preposterous, we will resurrect one who never existed.

I could only think of one Holmes who was a legend, it was Eamonn. If you can think of another please enlighten me.

hobbes
04-24-2004, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by J'Pol@24 April 2004 - 01:40
Hobbes

Fair point, well presented.

Instead of resurrecting a chap who has not yet died, which would be preposterous,  we will resurrect one who never existed.

I could only think of one Holmes who was a legend, it was Eamonn. If you can think of another please enlighten me.
Listen, I just don't have the energy to fight you on this.

Let's do it your way and just kill this chap Eamonn, bring him back to life and let him sort matters out.

I'm a little disappointed that the legendary John Holmes does not meat with your approval. I still think he would have given the issue a right honorable probe.

j2k4
04-24-2004, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by hobbes@23 April 2004 - 18:55
I'm a little disappointed that the legendary John Holmes does not meat with your approval.
John Holmes only meats the approval of women, I think. ;)

Sorry to intrude, guys.

Busyman
04-24-2004, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by J'Pol@23 April 2004 - 16:11
This is such a good idea I suspect the UK must have suggested it, but allowed the US to announce it.

Oh gee thanks. <_<

hobbes
04-24-2004, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Busyman+24 April 2004 - 02:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman &#064; 24 April 2004 - 02:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@23 April 2004 - 16:11
This is such a good idea I suspect the UK must have suggested it, but allowed the US to announce it.

Oh gee thanks. <_< [/b][/quote]
Don&#39;t worry Busy, when the plan fails miserably, its UK origin will revealed to all.

To get the topic back on track, I think Rat brought up some good points, so I&#39;ll go with his answer.

I am going to continue living my spiderhole until things become a little more secure.

Biggles
04-24-2004, 05:27 PM
:blink:

I have no idea who either of these gentlemen are.

One thing I am a little unclear on is that, I am sure that I have been informed by my Government that things are so good in Iraq that all schools are now up and running etc., etc., Now it seems we are about to let thousands of Ba&#39;athist teachers and lecturers go back to work. Call me a pedant if you will, but won&#39;t the current teachers who are doing such a sterling job be a bit peeved? Or are we going for double manning on all jobs to get the unemployment rate down? A laudable (if expensive) exercise.

Other than my, albeit minor, quibble, this would seem like a sensible move. People who are busy earning a penny or two will not have time for charging around with AK74s and setting off bombs.

Rat Faced
04-24-2004, 06:05 PM
They said schools are open.

I dont recall anyone saying there were teachers teaching anything...


Biggles, you do work for the same Civil Service as myself, you know how these things work. Government is usually very careful about how they word things, as they have a habit of biting them on the arse later.



Often, in times of adversity, parents are the teachers...often in the school buildings that were used when times are better.

In addition, there was always the appeals procedures. As teachers had to be members of the party, then this may have been taken into account in the appeals procedures (one would hope).

Unless we are told everything; and lets face it, that is not gonna happen, then we can only assume things.

Biggles
04-24-2004, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Rat Faced@24 April 2004 - 18:05
They said schools are open.

I dont recall anyone saying there were teachers teaching anything...


Biggles, you do work for the same Civil Service as myself, you know how these things work. Government is usually very careful about how they word things, as they have a habit of biting them on the arse later.



Often, in times of adversity, parents are the teachers...often in the school buildings that were used when times are better.

In addition, there was always the appeals procedures. As teachers had to be members of the party, then this may have been taken into account in the appeals procedures (one would hope).

Unless we are told everything; and lets face it, that is not gonna happen, then we can only assume things.
:lol:

Indeed, however, I am sure the purpose of all the "feel good" statistics was to give the impression that suburbian Baghdad was somewhere we would feel safe sending our kids to school.

I was merely pointing out what I perceived as a slight inconsistency in the line we are being spun. ;)