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i dont know why but my computer takes like 5-7 min to shut down! its win xp, 256 ram, pentium 4, 2ghz. it used to take less then half this time. this started to happen weeks ago but i just noticed it now because i always walk away from the comp. when i shut it down. if any1 knows how to cut the time down plz tell me! thanks
{I}{K}{E}
04-25-2004, 02:27 PM
Did you installed some new software lately?
scan for ad- spyware, check what programs are running on the background,
advice: upgrade your RAM to 512 ;)
would upgrading make it faster?
backlash
04-25-2004, 03:14 PM
hell yes. It would definitely make it faster. :)
is there a way without using $?
h121589
04-25-2004, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by 3223@25 April 2004 - 16:15
is there a way without using $?
duh! d/l it ;)
FreeMail
04-25-2004, 04:55 PM
do you have bad sector on your HD?
Chevy
04-25-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by h121589+25 April 2004 - 16:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (h121589 @ 25 April 2004 - 16:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-3223@25 April 2004 - 16:15
is there a way without using $?
duh! d/l it ;) [/b][/quote]
d/l RAM? :blink:
4th gen
04-25-2004, 04:58 PM
Leave the computer idle for a minute or so before you shut it down (i.e. not downloading/uploading, no programs running). Also, unplug your usb modem if you have one
GHOST 1337
04-25-2004, 05:41 PM
duh! d/l it
if i had a big fish, i would slap you.
@3223
download a program that will re-arrange your boot files. a good one is tune xp.
just do a torrent searh. or if you want, ill hash it for kl.
i dont use klite. i couldnt find a torrent. can u link the torrent?
GHOST 1337
04-25-2004, 09:51 PM
damnit, i thought i got it off isohunt, now i cant find it there...Try this (http://www.longshome.com/bootvis.msi) also, this might help- start/run/msconfig/startup tab/uncheck everything thats a program that you've downloaded or installed (except virus scanner/firwall, if you want).
i thought u do the msconfig for slow start ups not shut downs. cen u send me the app through any other way like mirc?
GHOST 1337
04-25-2004, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by 3223@25 April 2004 - 23:12
i thought u do the msconfig for slow start ups not shut downs. cen u send me the app through any other way like mirc?
oh damn, i forgot we were talking about shutdown not startup :lol: :lol:. do you have aim?
GHOST 1337
04-25-2004, 11:21 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: lol, i just rememberd, tune xp is freeware. :lol:
ill pm you the download link :)
:lol: :lol: :frusty:
i applied the tweak and i took me 10 min to do a reboot. about 5 for shut down and 5 for boot. thats very slow for a reboot. it should be under 5 min. did i do something wrong?
GHOST 1337
04-26-2004, 12:12 AM
which one did you do?
10mins for s friggin' shut down, i think you got some spyware man ;)
ill check but it was 10 for reboot not shut down. thats still along time though. can it be spy/ad ware or can it be trojan/virus also?
backlash
04-26-2004, 12:59 AM
run msconfig and take a screenshot of the programs running at startup and post it here
GHOST 1337
04-26-2004, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by 3223@26 April 2004 - 00:17
ill check but it was 10 for reboot not shut down. thats still along time though. can it be spy/ad ware or can it be trojan/virus also?
both.
update your definitions in both your virus scanner and ad-aware/spybot. run them both next download ewido security suite (great for detecting trojans), it found a trojan on my comp that nav AND avg missed. also you might want to download CWShredder. run all of these and then tell us the results. :)
Xero Grid
04-26-2004, 01:51 AM
XP-Anti-spy (http://www.xpantispy.org/) can aid in tweaking. Enable fast shutdown.
You also need to scan your computer for spyware (I use SpySweeper for example) and scan for viruses (I like NOD32 and AVG anti-viruses). You also need to defrag your system. Clean some crap up. I like Window Washer (from the same people who make SpySweeper) Webroot (http://webroot.com/)
black viper (http://www.blackviper.com/) can help you with turning off services you don't need.
RegSeeker (http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm) to clean the registry and do a little tweaking. It also allows you to take crap out of the startup registry. NTRegOpt also helps to optimize the registry. Don't forget to tweak your system with X-Setup (http://www.x-setup.net/)
It should only take seconds to shut down your comp. ESPECIALLY on your hardware.
-- Xero Grid --
ill check for spyware and trojans but i cant find a crack nod32. the old one ran out!
Xero Grid
04-26-2004, 09:52 PM
Yeah, they are really on top of people cracking their software.
You can get a temporary trial code for NOD32 from Here (http://32.net.ru/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=12&st=75) But you should check out the On-Demand Scanner (http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/mirror.htm)
Another tool that works well and is only for cleaning a system is McAfee AVERT Stinger (http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/). I don't like McAfee products, but this free tools is nice. Of course you can't forget for the tougher spyware HijackThis and CWShredder (http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/)
-- Xero Grid --
those cracks didnt work. the on demand scanner wouldnt dl. i tweaked with x setup and cleaned my registry. now i gotta scan for virus/trojans and spy/ad ware. i have like 10 apps for those but which ones would u recomend cause i dont wanna scan with each app
cwsshredder said i was completely clean. hijack this found a hole bunch of shit that i know wasent spyware like my isps website nod32 and a whole bunch of other bs! im currently doing a edwido and stinger scan. then i will do spy sweeper, the cleaner, ad aware, spy bot, and finally nod32 when the on demand scanner dl will work! damn that alot. i might not be finished today!
GHOST 1337
04-27-2004, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by 3223@26 April 2004 - 22:50
cwsshredder said i was completely clean. hijack this found a hole bunch of shit that i know wasent spyware like my isps website nod32 and a whole bunch of other bs! im currently doing a edwido and stinger scan. then i will do spy sweeper, the cleaner, ad aware, spy bot, and finally nod32 when the on demand scanner dl will work! damn that alot. i might not be finished today!
:lol: :lol: . after this you'll be completley clean :lol: :)
Xero Grid
04-27-2004, 12:50 AM
Yeah, your comp better be clean after this or there's something terrribly wrong. :lol:
The thing about HijackThis is that it tells you that not everything it finds is spyware. It just really tells you everything that has access to certain parts of your comp that's associated with spyware. I still find it to be a very useful tool.
For the NOD32 on-demand scanner, check out nsane's site (http://nsane.nm.ru/)
BTW, in my experience, SpySweeper catches more than the other spyridding tools I've used. It also updates quicker and isn't as targetted by spyware. And to stop this crap from getting into your comp to begin with, check out my sig.
-- Xero Grid --
ewido found nothing. btw does any1 have a (rack for it? i think the chance of it finding something will be higher if its registered. stinger only told be the # of clean files nothing else so i guess it found everything to be clean. now for spysweeper and cleaner! nsanes site dl didnt work either! i turned off viewing sigs. is it by any chance spyware blaster cause i already have that.
Xero Grid
04-27-2004, 01:39 AM
This is what I meant. (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=107782) I don't like extra programs running when you can just edit something already in your OS and it can do the same if not better.
Now, just so you know. The full version if SpySweeper works better than the trial version.
-- Xero Grid --
i have full version of spy sweeper. im talking about ewido. i need the crack for ewido. spy sweeper for 1 ad ware: Alset Helpexpress. i dont know what the hell that is but im deleting it. 5 more scans to go! :lol: i still need nod32 on demand scanner though.
zapjb
04-27-2004, 05:12 AM
3223 I don't think the pro or registered version of ess is available. Just the free version afaik.
ok im clean! next time i shut down ill let u guys know how it goes!
Xero Grid
04-27-2004, 08:49 PM
And we wait in anticipation. :lol:
-- Xero Grid --
Chewie
04-27-2004, 11:07 PM
Just to throw something else in the mix... have you set Windows to clear the pagefile when you shut down?
Xero Grid
04-28-2004, 12:05 AM
Yeah, that'll make it take longer, but it's great for getting rid of tracks an fragmentation (Since on NT based machines you cannot defrag system files that are in use). If you set your system like that, you can configure the mimimum size of the page file to be smaller and not take so long to clear.
Right-click on My Computer > Click properties > Click Advances >Click Performance Settings.
Uncheck anything you don't want for better system performance. Go to advanced and at the bottom, you can configure virtual memory. I like setting the minimum almost as low as the system recommends and making the max about a gig.
-- Xero Grid --
i just got the nod32 ondemand scanner. do u have to install it every time u use it cause i closed it and clicked on the exe and the installer came up again. also does it update? if it dosent i have nod32 full but i cant update it anymore cause the crack doesnt work anymore. :( if it doesnt update i will delete and use the nod32 i have
Xero Grid
04-28-2004, 01:40 AM
The on-demand scanner doesn't have the updating component. Theoretically you can update which would be much more trouble than it's worth. The on-demand scanner uses a non-uninstallable setup created by Inno setup because it extracts to a temporary directory and works from there.
Just use the setup each time you use it. If you can get the Full NOD32 to work, then you don't need the on-demand scanner.
BTW, for the trial code, go to the page I gave you and use the code on the bottom of the last page of that forum post. It'll work.
-- Xero Grid --
the last page code didnt work. i got to update>setup> then enter it right? well it didnt work for me
sorry i posted so late guys. it still takes 5 min to shut down! what else can i do?
backlash
05-01-2004, 03:48 PM
reformat and start fresh! :D should do it once a year anyway.
i dont wanna reformat. ill loose everything! i dont wanna dl all of it again!
Chewie
05-01-2004, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by backlash@1 May 2004 - 15:48
reformat and start fresh! :D should do it once a year anyway.
Why? I only format & re-install when there's no other option and the systems I tend are all running without problems - well, excluding old Ash's pr0n & dialer infested machine; I've told him not to let his grandkids loose on it while he's on holiday, but will he listen?
Chewie
05-01-2004, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by 3223@1 May 2004 - 16:15
i dont wanna reformat. ill loose everything! i dont wanna dl all of it again!
Have you checked that Windows isn't clearing the pagefile on shut-down?
how can i make sure that it isnt?
GHOST 1337
05-01-2004, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by 3223@1 May 2004 - 14:26
sorry i posted so late guys. it still takes 5 min to shut down! what else can i do?
your systems fucked. ram upgrade.
Chewie
05-03-2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by 3223@1 May 2004 - 22:36
how can i make sure that it isnt?
THIS PAGE (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314834) tells you how to enable the clearing process. Presumably, a value of 0 would disable the feature.
Chewie
05-03-2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by 3223@1 May 2004 - 16:15
ill loose everything!
Tighten it up, then.
Originally posted by Chewie UK+3 May 2004 - 19:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chewie UK @ 3 May 2004 - 19:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-3223@1 May 2004 - 22:36
how can i make sure that it isnt?
THIS PAGE (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314834) tells you how to enable the clearing process. Presumably, a value of 0 would disable the feature. [/b][/quote]
it already is at 0! the "DisablePagingExecutive" key right under it is set at 1. maybe i should set that to 0 also?
Chewie
05-06-2004, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by 3223+3 May 2004 - 21:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3223 @ 3 May 2004 - 21:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Chewie UK@3 May 2004 - 19:34
Originally posted by 3223@1 May 2004 - 22:36
how can i make sure that it isnt?
THIS PAGE (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314834) tells you how to enable the clearing process. Presumably, a value of 0 would disable the feature.
it already is at 0! [/b] Why the exclamation mark? I didn't say it was your problem, merely suggested you check it. You have checked it and it's turned off - it's eliminated from the equation.
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the "DisablePagingExecutive" key right under it is set at 1. maybe i should set that to 0 also?[/quote]
Simply put, the paging executive pages data to disk when it thinks it's not going to be needed in a hurry.
I would recommend turning it back on (set to 0) because you've only got 256MB RAM.
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