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Chame1eon
04-28-2004, 09:53 AM
wev'e got 3 computers and have recent ly gotten a few new hard drives. about 2 weeks after we start using them we get corrupt data. weve replaced allof them under warrenty and now it is happening again. One of the computers is a new factory computer and the other 2 are made from mostly new parts. they don't have anything in common except western digital hard drives, amd processors and our house. does anyone know what is happening ? I thousht western digital was good brand.

james_bond_rulez
04-28-2004, 10:06 AM
it is a good hard drive, if you are getting corrupt data either you didn't handle the data properly or you messed up somehow

Chame1eon
04-28-2004, 10:27 AM
it's four different hard drives in 3 computers (one came whitht e nwe computer).
messed up somehow
how?

RGX
04-28-2004, 10:37 AM
Im doubtful its the hard drives fault...dont suppose you have any large unsheilded magnets nearby (ie speakers)? Or where the hard drives are stored before installation? This can corrupt data and generally screw the drive around.

Chame1eon
04-28-2004, 10:54 AM
there aren't any unsheilded magnets

clocker
04-28-2004, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Chame1eon@28 April 2004 - 03:53
One of the computers is a new factory computer and the other 2 are made from mostly new parts..
How come you are replacing the HDD on a new PC?

Just curious.

Anyway, all manufacturers have a failure rate, but you are experiencing a rate of 100% which is beyond mere coincidence.

Something else is going on.
What exactly do you mean by "corrupt data"?

lynx
04-28-2004, 02:55 PM
This is unlikely to be the cause, but what are the temps like on these HD's.

Other than that I would repeat clocker's question about what you mean by corrupt data.

If the data is corrupt when you write it to the disk, it isn't going to be any better when you read it back. But if it is ok initially, it is more likely that you have a configuration error and are overwriting the data.

What size are the drives, how are the drives configured in bios, and what OS are you using?

Virtualbody1234
04-28-2004, 02:59 PM
Corrupt data can mean a lot of things. Maybe a virus for example.

james_bond_rulez
04-28-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@28 April 2004 - 05:59
Corrupt data can mean a lot of things. Maybe a virus for example.
virus dont usually corrupt data, they corrput or cripple operating systems....but then it really depends on what kind of virus you are talking about

Virtualbody1234
04-28-2004, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+28 April 2004 - 09:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 28 April 2004 - 09:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@28 April 2004 - 05:59
Corrupt data can mean a lot of things. Maybe a virus for example.
virus dont usually corrupt data, they corrput or cripple operating systems....but then it really depends on what kind of virus you are talking about [/b][/quote]
Are you really saying that an operating system isn&#39;t data?

In any case Chame1eon hasn&#39;t defined what was meant by "corrupt data".

james_bond_rulez
04-28-2004, 05:27 PM
ya basically i am saying virus can be programmed to do anything...data or not, they are designed to cause damage

atiVidia
04-28-2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@28 April 2004 - 12:27
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whats the size of the HDDs?

Chame1eon
04-29-2004, 04:55 PM
@ clocker I needed more space

As for corrupt data Files will stop woking, i have gotten an Error loadiing operating sysem error, sysem failure(untill i run check disk), and a lot of cyclic redundancy checks while copying files. then later event veiwer or western digital diagnositic will me i have bad blocks.

the hard drives are 40, 80, 160, and 80

the os&#39;s are xp sp1 2k sp 4 and 2k

I don&#39;t know what the hard drive temperatures are , but the cpu temps are 67,67, and 41 c

I can&#39;t find any information about the hard drives in 2 of the computers but in the one with the 160 gb hard drive i found this

cylinders : 1024
heads: 240
sectors : 63
chs: 7927
lba: 160041 mb
pio: 4
ultra dma: 5

I noticed that the number of heads and cylinders is inconsistant with what western digital says they have ; they say there are 16383 cylinders and 16 heads&#33; Is that the problem? How could my computer miscount this?

lynx
04-29-2004, 06:32 PM
Sounds like you&#39;ve got them set for CHS addressing, which I don&#39;t believe is properly supported by Microsoft OS&#39;s. The consequence of this is that as your disks fill up the OS will start to try to access sectors that don&#39;t actually exist under that addressing scheme.

You should change that to LBA addressing, but it means you will have to run fdisk, remove and recreate your partitions, then reinstall everything.

atiVidia
04-29-2004, 07:32 PM
did u use speedfan? im sure all ur drives use S.M.A.R.T so its worth a shot lol. if u did use speedfan and it accessed the S.M.A.R.T data then see if u can retrieve the spin time and other things (especially anything labeled as not ok :P)

btw turn off indexing on the 160gig HDD

Chewie
04-29-2004, 10:25 PM
How about starting with the most likely and easiest to check?
Download and run Memtest86.
All data goes through memory. If what is written to memory is different to what is read back, there&#39;s your problem.

Chame1eon
04-30-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by lynx@29 April 2004 - 12:32
Sounds like you&#39;ve got them set for CHS addressing, which I don&#39;t believe is properly supported by Microsoft OS&#39;s. The consequence of this is that as your disks fill up the OS will start to try to access sectors that don&#39;t actually exist under that addressing scheme.

You should change that to LBA addressing, but it means you will have to run fdisk, remove and recreate your partitions, then reinstall everything.
how do i do it?

ck-uk
05-01-2004, 06:51 AM
You need to do that in the bios mate