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abu_has_the_power
05-05-2004, 10:32 PM
as most of u know, i have comcast. and the modem is screwing up. i'm gonna buy a new modem. most likely this one: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-122-104&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=25-122-104&depa=1)
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/25-122-104-06.JPG

now, i just called comcast, and i asked them if they allow uncapping modems. the person checked, and she said that if i rent their modem, its not allowed, but if i have my own modem, i can do watever i want!!! :w00t:

not here's my question:
i know how to uncap, but i've never really tried on comcast's cable lines before. how much faster will my internet go? rite now, their advertised speed is 3 megabits (not MB, Mb) per second. thats bout 375kb/s. i dl at this speed sometimes on bt and klite and stuff. the surfboard modem above allows up to 38Mb/s dl speed (4750kb/s or 4.5 megabytes/sec :w00t: :01: :01: ). if i uncap, how fast will my dls get?
and btw, for all u guys out there, uncapping is allowed on comcast if u have ur own modem. :w00t:

adamp2p
05-05-2004, 10:53 PM
You are funny abu! :lol:

How are the AP exams?

vivitron 15
05-05-2004, 10:53 PM
to be honest, it sounds as though they have no clue what uncapping means (the person with whom you spoke) but its def worth a try - if they complain, tell em what you were told, and they cant do much - except tell you to cap it

try google for how i guess

tesco
05-05-2004, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@5 May 2004 - 17:40
as most of u know, i have comcast. and the modem is screwing up. i'm gonna buy a new modem. most likely this one: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-122-104&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=25-122-104&depa=1)
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/25-122-104-06.JPG

now, i just called comcast, and i asked them if they allow uncapping modems. the person checked, and she said that if i rent their modem, its not allowed, but if i have my own modem, i can do watever i want!!! :w00t:

not here's my question:
i know how to uncap, but i've never really tried on comcast's cable lines before. how much faster will my internet go? rite now, their advertised speed is 3 megabits (not MB, Mb) per second. thats bout 375kb/s. i dl at this speed sometimes on bt and klite and stuff. the surfboard modem above allows up to 38Mb/s dl speed (4750kb/s or 4.5 megabytes/sec :w00t: :01: :01: ). if i uncap, how fast will my dls get?
and btw, for all u guys out there, uncapping is allowed on comcast if u have ur own modem. :w00t:
you'll be using teh full bandwith available in your area, which is going to make ervyone else's downlaods in teh area very slow. which isnt very nice. but f*ck em eh? lol. im guessing it will probably go about 25% to 50% faster, but not to much higher.

and if they give you any trouble about teh extra bandwith your using, just say they said you could do it, so they cant charge you.

abu_has_the_power
05-05-2004, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by adamp2p@5 May 2004 - 18:01
You are funny abu! :lol:

How are the AP exams?
ap exams are pretty crazy. i have ap euro coming up this friday. :o :o :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: i'm prob gonna pull through witha 3 or 4.



so it won't go that fast? only 25 to 50% higher? that's not a lot. thats like 4mb, or 500kb/s. that's not that much higher. i'm gonna buy a modem anyway cuz i'm sick of using their shitty modems and them chargin me $3 per month. and i did explain to her what uncapping means. she understands. she said that if i do that with their modem, it's violating service agreement thingy.


and my neighbors don't even use cable. they don't use internet. plus i don't like them that much anyway.



any suggestions as to uncapping and stuff? i dled a pretty good package with all the tools i'll need to uncap. looks really easy.

and has anyone here done it?

clocker
05-06-2004, 01:33 AM
Abu, why do you think uncapping your modem will make any difference whatsoever to your DL speeds on K-Lite and the like?

The bottleneck there is the ability of users to give out the file, not your ability to receive it.

abu_has_the_power
05-06-2004, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by clocker@5 May 2004 - 20:41
Abu, why do you think uncapping your modem will make any difference whatsoever to your DL speeds on K-Lite and the like?

The bottleneck there is the ability of users to give out the file, not your ability to receive it.
it doesnt?
certainly, bt would have much higher speed. i peak at 350kb/s all the time on bt. if i do that, y can't i peak at a higher speed after the uncapping?

wienerschnitzel
05-06-2004, 03:30 AM
i think i read somewhere that the therotical limit through cable is 8 mb down, 3 mb up but of course there are many things that would slow this down, distance, bad cable lines etc.

the only way to find out is for you to find out yourself :)

amphoteric88
05-06-2004, 03:33 AM
I'm pretty sure that uncapping it is gonna be illegal in some way or form...

amphoteric88
05-06-2004, 03:41 AM
http://www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp

"(xix) service, alter, modify, or tamper with the Comcast Equipment or Service or permit any other person to do the same who is not authorized by Comcast"

;)

james_bond_rulez
05-06-2004, 04:38 AM
i can't see abu end up in the back of the squad car when he gets busted for steal bandwidth :P

just kiddin, abu :lol:

adamp2p
05-06-2004, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@5 May 2004 - 15:30



ap exams are pretty crazy. i have ap euro coming up this friday. :o :o :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: i'm prob gonna pull through witha 3 or 4.




What is the AP Euro?

Keikan
05-06-2004, 05:00 AM
i joined ib classes or those any good? :unsure:

ck-uk
05-06-2004, 05:59 AM
i only have one modem atm'..if that goes i'm fck'd :P

abu_has_the_power
05-06-2004, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by amphoteric88@5 May 2004 - 22:49
http://www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp

"(xix) service, alter, modify, or tamper with the Comcast Equipment or Service or permit any other person to do the same who is not authorized by Comcast"

;)
notice how it says comcast equipment? i'm buying my own modem whether i uncap or not. and i'm not really tampering with the service either, cuz i'm tampering with my own property.
i'm sure the speed would increase rite?
and besides, they're only gonna cancel your account if u uncap their modem. that's not harsh punishment. i can always start a new account. comcast doesn't care bout same addresses



@adamp2p: ap euro is ap european history. i'm a sophomore (10th grade)

amphoteric88
05-06-2004, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@6 May 2004 - 07:54
notice how it says comcast equipment? i'm buying my own modem whether i uncap or not. and i'm not really tampering with the service either, cuz i'm tampering with my own property.
You obviously are tampering with the service :lol:

Why do you think they charge more for extra bandwidth?

lmao

SingaBoiy
05-06-2004, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by clocker@5 May 2004 - 16:41
Abu, why do you think uncapping your modem will make any difference whatsoever to your DL speeds on K-Lite and the like?

The bottleneck there is the ability of users to give out the file, not your ability to receive it.
When did he ever say he was going to use it for K-lite?

This is good news for me, Im a comcast user too. All I really care about is getting my upload speed faster, 256 just doesnt cut it.

Im gonna post a question on their forums to make sure you wont get caught.

amphoteric88
05-06-2004, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by SingaBoiy@6 May 2004 - 07:48
Im gonna post a question on their forums to make sure you wont get caught.
:lol:

abu_has_the_power
05-06-2004, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by SingaBoiy+6 May 2004 - 02:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SingaBoiy @ 6 May 2004 - 02:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@5 May 2004 - 16:41
Abu, why do you think uncapping your modem will make any difference whatsoever to your DL speeds on K-Lite and the like?

The bottleneck there is the ability of users to give out the file, not your ability to receive it.
When did he ever say he was going to use it for K-lite?

This is good news for me, Im a comcast user too. All I really care about is getting my upload speed faster, 256 just doesnt cut it.

Im gonna post a question on their forums to make sure you wont get caught. [/b][/quote]
isn&#39;t this already a forum?
:huh:

SingaBoiy
05-06-2004, 01:26 PM
This is what someone replyed to me at Comcast&#39;s forums:


When you register the modem with comcast they will push a config file to your modem... This is the "cap" (most places its 3.3m down and 256k up).. So what "cap" that&#39;s in your modem now is unimportant...

abu_has_the_power
05-06-2004, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by SingaBoiy@6 May 2004 - 08:34
This is what someone replyed to me at Comcast&#39;s forums:


When you register the modem with comcast they will push a config file to your modem... This is the "cap" (most places its 3.3m down and 256k up).. So what "cap" that&#39;s in your modem now is unimportant...
rite. they send u a config thingy. u can edit it to take out the 3.3m cap



btw, hows that modem? cuz this thread isn&#39;t just bout uncapping, ok, maybe it is. but i&#39;m getting a new modem either way. hows that modem? i heard it&#39;s one of the best.

SingaBoiy
05-06-2004, 07:46 PM
Looks nice. Good price. Id get it if I had the money.

johnboy27
05-06-2004, 07:50 PM
Looks like a pretty good price considering my ISP would charge me 500-1000 bucks for it if I didn&#39;y return it after I disconnect my service.
I myself have a Motorola Surfboard 4100 and I have had no problems,my father in law has the modem you plan on getting and he has no problems also.You could probably fit that whole modem inside the case to my modem.LOL

abu_has_the_power
05-06-2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by SingaBoiy@6 May 2004 - 14:54
Looks nice. Good price. Id get it if I had the money.
its &#036;60 at bestbuy after &#036;20 rebate

justin_9733
05-06-2004, 10:34 PM
I have that same modem, I rent it from my isp for &#036;5 month. I is a good modem other than it will sometimes go offline if you are downloading alot but that might be my isp and not the modem.

ffuuggssddss
05-06-2004, 10:50 PM
Yo read this article before u uncap, u should really know the pros and cons of uncapping... http://www.securityfocus.com/news/394

Duffman
05-06-2004, 11:05 PM
god damn ap exams i hate them. the closed a section of our school to make the library quiet so all week i can&#39;t goto my locker and im stuck with having to get every book at the end of the day for the next day, bastards&#33;

Keikan
05-06-2004, 11:10 PM
Ah man I got an old school cable modem

http://broadband.motorola.com/noflash/cybersurfr_home.html

tesco
05-06-2004, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Keikan@6 May 2004 - 18:18
Ah man I got an old school cable modem

http://broadband.motorola.com/noflash/cybersurfr_home.html
not as old school as mine :unsure:

http://www.rca.com/documents/DCM305R(LG)_701771_25.jpg

RCA THOMPSON DCM305R (http://www.rca.com/product/viewdetail/0,2588,PI700502-CI700094,00.html)?

accat13
05-07-2004, 12:52 AM
After complaining about a poor connection (damn plug kept falling out of the wall) my isp just gave me a new toshiba pcx2600 (docsis 2.0)modem(my isp still doesn&#39;t charge for modems)..Speeds went from 250 KB/sec up to 350KB/sec..Very nice :rolleyes:

tesco
05-07-2004, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by accat13@6 May 2004 - 20:00
After complaining about a poor connection (damn plug kept falling out of the wall) my isp just gave me a new toshiba pcx2600 (docsis 2.0)modem(my isp still doesn&#39;t charge for modems)..Speeds went from 250 KB/sec up to 350KB/sec..Very nice :rolleyes:
very nice looking modem, unlike my crappy white pos.

abu_has_the_power
05-07-2004, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by ffuuggssddss@6 May 2004 - 17:58
Yo read this article before u uncap, u should really know the pros and cons of uncapping...&nbsp; http://www.securityfocus.com/news/394
hey hey. very nice. onestep. where can i find that?

there&#39;s one on www.tcniso.net, but it&#39;s not 30mb


just tried it. do these progs work if u have a router?

abu_has_the_power
05-07-2004, 01:44 AM
no, wait. nevermind. i have the onestep package. its the one that i dled from suprnova a while ago.

now, does this work with routers? do i have to remove the router?