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sArA
05-10-2004, 10:28 AM
who took the fi out of sci-fi when I wasn't looking????



http://politechbot.com/pipermail/politech/...ril/000652.html (http://politechbot.com/pipermail/politech/2004-April/000652.html)



People with RFID chips in their clothing, books,
bags, or bodies could be targeted by "smart projectiles" that will zero
in on that particular Smart.

Today's "smart bombs" already self-guide toward laser-identified or
RF-identified or heat-identified targets.

The technical challenges involved in guiding a missile toward an RFID
chip would probably relate to the speed of the missile compared to the
range at which the RFID chip can be made to respond and the agility
with which the missile can change course.

Such a missile could probably more easily be designed to *arm* or
*trigger* its explosion when a particular RFID chip is in range. That
way, if fired at innocents, it would be a dud that would only cause
minimal damage, but if fired at the right person, it would blow up.

But we need not get so science-fiction about it. Rather than bring
the mountain to Mohammed, let's let Mohammed come to the mountain.
Let's see what this technology would do for an everyday practice of
today's freedom fighters who are defending their country by opposing
one of the US Government's current wars of occupation. In order to
comply with government labeling mandates resulting from the huge
Firestone tire recall, Michelin has announced that it plans to put
RFID chips in every tire it sells to car makers (and eventually
in every tire they sell). Similar plans are afoot for many other
automotive and personal products.

Imagine being able to bury an explosive in a roadway -- that would
only go off when a particular car drove over it. You could bury these
bombs months in advance, in any or every major or minor roadway. You
could change the targeting whenever you liked (e.g. via driving a
radio-equipped car over it and transmitting new instructions to it).
You could give it a whole list of cars that it would explode for, or a
set of cars and dates.

If you put such bombs throughout a metropolitan area, a car could
drive through the area for months without triggering anything --
taking evasive routes, etc. But on the appointed day, each the bombs
surrounding the area would know to go off when that same car passed.
Without the responsible parties having to visit the sites later than
days or weeks beforehand (making them hard to catch or deter).

Such explosives would be detectable by their radio emissions -- RFID
pings. But in a world where RFID pings are being transmitted by
everything around you, including every cellphone and doorframe and cash
register and ATM machine and camera and car and computer and palmtop
and parking meter and cop car ... you won't even notice. Places with
"congestion pricing" like central London, or any toll road anywhere, would
even have plenty of active RFID readers buried in the roadway already.
And I'm sure the cops anywhere would love to have them for tracking
where everybody is driving -- individually.

Welcome to automated personal death. Courtesy of RFID and leading
shortsighted global corporations, with government encouragement.

Barbarossa
05-10-2004, 11:59 AM
This is insanely brilliantly insane!

j2k4
05-10-2004, 01:20 PM
Thank you, Sara.

My paranoia is coming along nicely.

It should blossom soon. :)

BigBoo
05-10-2004, 04:45 PM
wars just no fun anymore <_<

sArA
05-10-2004, 09:05 PM
I think it sounds like &#39;minority report&#39; type stuff.

Paranoid J2k4? So...what you been up to you been a bad lad? :ph34r:


:lol:

j2k4
05-10-2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by sara5564@10 May 2004 - 15:13
I think it sounds like &#39;minority report&#39; type stuff.

Paranoid J2k4? So...what you been up to you been a bad lad?&nbsp; :ph34r:


:lol:
Not "bad" in any sense; I do, however, seem to have sold my soul to a bank and my federal government. ;)

I have become a small businessman.

I plan to plead insanity when the time comes. :D

sArA
05-10-2004, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by j2k4+10 May 2004 - 22:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 10 May 2004 - 22:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sara5564@10 May 2004 - 15:13
I think it sounds like &#39;minority report&#39; type stuff.

Paranoid J2k4? So...what you been up to you been a bad lad?&nbsp; :ph34r:


:lol:
Not "bad" in any sense; I do, however, seem to have sold my soul to a bank and my federal government. ;)

I have become a small businessman.

I plan to plead insanity when the time comes. :D [/b][/quote]
I always thought you gave the impression of height&#33; :lol:

As for the business, I hope it works out ok. Have you been doing it long or is this a relatively new venture?

Nogimics
05-10-2004, 10:08 PM
Right &#33; Where can I buy some ??? :D :lol:

j2k4
05-11-2004, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Mr JP Fugley+11 May 2004 - 08:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr JP Fugley @ 11 May 2004 - 08:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@10 May 2004 - 22:04

I plan to plead insanity when the time comes. :D
would the plan to plead insanity not, in and off itself, preclude the likeliehood of such a plea being upheld. :photo: [/b][/quote]
Well, I don&#39;t plan on letting word out beforehand, sir; wouldn&#39;t want to foment too much paranoia. ;)

Sara-

I&#39;ve been doing it for a while, but for someone else, so for me to be doing it as owner is new.

Lots of little things to consider, most involving financial expenditure.

It&#39;s a very modest concern, really, nothing to get excited about-just decided things needed doing right for once. :)

lynx
05-11-2004, 02:30 PM
For most things there are pre-defined penalties, for insanity they can keep you locked away until they decide you should be let out.

So you would probably have to be insane to plead insanity. :P

j2k4
05-11-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Mr JP Fugley+11 May 2004 - 09:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr JP Fugley @ 11 May 2004 - 09:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by j2k4@11 May 2004 - 14:24

Originally posted by Mr JP Fugley@11 May 2004 - 08:07
<!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@10 May 2004 - 22:04

I plan to plead insanity when the time comes. :D
would the plan to plead insanity not, in and off itself, preclude the likeliehood of such a plea being upheld. :photo:
Well, I don&#39;t plan on letting word out beforehand, sir; wouldn&#39;t want to foment too much paranoia. ;)


i have the photographs. now i demand that you place 17pence, in used coins, in my lettered french building society account. [/b][/quote]
Done&#33;

Lynx-

I am aware of that difficulty; however, I have a cunning plan-the details of which I haven&#39;t quite got a clue. :P

j2k4
05-11-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Mr JP Fugley+11 May 2004 - 10:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr JP Fugley @ 11 May 2004 - 10:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by j2k4@11 May 2004 - 16:00

Originally posted by Mr JP Fugley@11 May 2004 - 09:13

Originally posted by j2k4@11 May 2004 - 14:24

Originally posted by Mr JP Fugley@11 May 2004 - 08:07
<!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@10 May 2004 - 22:04

I plan to plead insanity when the time comes. :D
would the plan to plead insanity not, in and off itself, preclude the likeliehood of such a plea being upheld. :photo:
Well, I don&#39;t plan on letting word out beforehand, sir; wouldn&#39;t want to foment too much paranoia. ;)


i have the photographs. now i demand that you place 17pence, in used coins, in my lettered french building society account.
Done&#33;

please find enclosed the negatives.

life is shit
the weather is crap
my dandruff is back

a pleasure doing business with you. [/b][/quote]
My undying (but insane) gratitude to you, sir. :)

sArA
05-11-2004, 08:10 PM
Aaarrrghhhh&#33;&#33;&#33; My thread has been hijacked and its not even in the lounge&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


:lol: :lol: :lol:

j2k4
05-11-2004, 08:23 PM
Ooooops. :(

My apologies, ma&#39;am. :huh:

Back on track, then. :)

muchspl2
05-11-2004, 08:41 PM
I didn&#39;t read your post but they are putting them in US money and walmart has been using them for some time

J'Pol
05-11-2004, 09:45 PM
j2

If you fell into a river in Paris, would you be in Seine.

With aplologies to Sara .... I&#39;ll get me coat

http://photoguide.myqth.com/film44/Thumb/Dscn8161.jpg

j2k4
05-11-2004, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@11 May 2004 - 15:53
j2

If you fell into a river in Paris, would you be in Seine.

With aplologies to Sara .... I&#39;ll get me coat

http://photoguide.myqth.com/film44/Thumb/Dscn8161.jpg
Gee whiz-

And I gave her my word, too. :(