Need Help Building A Super Computer

[DarkClown12]

Hey you all my uncle wants me to build him a good pentium 4 system with all the great stuff like video card, memory, mobo, eithernet, sound card, sweet case and the whole nine yards. I need anyone's opinon on what parts to get when i build it and remember the efficency means alot and alost think of quality over quanity. Just tell me parts to get to put it all together and make it run great. and if you have one already list what you have and maybe what you spent. BTW than for the help building this comp!

DarkClown12

[j4y3m]

You should check out AnandTech's Weekly Buyer's Guide: High End System - April 2004 (http://anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2041) article.

[DarkClown12]

Thank You I will

[Mad Cat]

Go AMD 64 FX ;)

[james_bond_rulez]

you should do your own research and homework before just coming to the board and say "Build me a computer, I want inputs"

have your ideas posted and ask others for their opinions.

Saves everybody's time

[Raven_1210]

I have a p4 3.0ghz with HT ,2gb of ram, 200gb hard drive (Maxtor Sata), Ati Radeon 9800, and a LG 8x DVD-Burner. I payed almost $1100.00 Canadian.
And I got a Gigabyte motherboard 8ipe1000-l pro 2

[DarkClown12]

kool man that is awsome

[atiVidia]

wait 2 months for the new chips & pci express.

then go buy a 6800u or x800xt gfx card and a socket T p4

[Virtualbody1234]

What's the budget?

[SciManAl]

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[atiVidia]

Originally posted by SciManAl@14 May 2004 - 15:02
ya please answer vbs question.. then i can make a few options i would select myself for ya... also i know ya want oeverall greatness... but what is the intended main use of this computer/ gaming? should i get a GOOOD graphics card, or just one to get you by?? fill in the blanks and the answer will appear my friend..
rofl im not sure bout that <_<

[DarkClown12]

The budget is unknown he said he wants it to be a fast pent 4 system with everything on it, probably for photos, internet, some games, basic applications etc.....

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by DarkClown12@14 May 2004 - 16:02
The budget is unknown he said he wants it to be a fast pent 4 system with everything on it, probably for photos, internet, some games, basic applications etc.....
then all u need budgetwise is 1k USD

it shouldnt e hard: some games, the net... hmmm...... a celeron would do :P


my friends dad bought a dell inspiron XPS (the laptop eith the 9700 mobile) just to study for an mcse exam&#33; wtf&#33;&#33;&#33;


lol 2500 for a d@mn3d exam is a bit too much dont u think?

[DarkClown12]

yes i do also he wants a pent 4 not a celeron sry guys.

[SciManAl]

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[atiVidia]

Originally posted by SciManAl@14 May 2004 - 17:59
yeah he wants performance... i would point him at a 64 bit amd instead though ok here it goes guys 4 computers 2 p4.. 2 amd 64 bit, i will post ina few minutes...
sciman its not ur uncle its darkclownz ;)

fine no celeron but u can still do a p4 under 1000 matching all his criteria :)

[DarkClown12]

that will rule man what is the least we could do it for you think?

[bigdawgfoxx]

My computer...cost like 650...and its so fucking nice haha..i love it to death it is sooo fast and awesome.

I would get him a AMD 64 3200.

We really need to know what ur uncle thinks is a good computer...i had some people ask me to fix there computer...it was top of the line and only a year old.

933Mhz PIII with 64MB ram and a 10GB hdd..they think thats an awesome computer...what does ur uncle think is a good computer and how much do YOU think he wants to spend?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by atiVidia@14 May 2004 - 15:05
it shouldnt e hard: some games, the net... hmmm...... a celeron would do :P


Please tell me you didnt say that....haha

[DarkClown12]

i dont beleive i said that but next time i talk to him i wil ask him what he thinks a good computer is. but i know he said last night he wants pent 4 and wants it to do anything and everything, btw i am guessing he might spend around 600-800 tops but i really duno his spending habits so look for stuff that will add to that , and he did mention 128mb of ram but that is not very much kno what i mean?

[tesco]

Originally posted by DarkClown12@14 May 2004 - 18:31
i dont beleive i said that but next time i talk to him i wil ask him what he thinks a good computer is. but i know he said last night he wants pent 4 and wants it to do anything and everything, btw i am guessing he might spend around 600-800 tops but i really duno his spending habits so look for stuff that will add to that , and he did mention 128mb of ram but that is not very much kno what i mean?
128mb :lol: at the very least 512mb should be put in...

...128 :lol: ...

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by DarkClown12@14 May 2004 - 18:22
that will rule man what is the least we could do it for you think?
well lemme see: we could get him an SFF system

gimme some time on this 1 tho:


lemme see:
a p4 2.4e (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=120768) (its on a 533mhz bus tho <_<)
an antec Aria (http://www.ajump.com/ajump/product.asp?dept%5Fid=2013&pf%5Fid=6830025&sku=99%2D99%2D99%2D99%2D99%2D6830025)
a sapphire 9800pro (http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/simprod.asp?pid=9032&ad=pwatch)
an 80 gig western digital HDD (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=150127) with an 8mb cache
pc3200 512megs RAM (http://www.crucial.com/store/PartSpecs.asp?imodule=CT6464Z40B&cat=RAM)
asus 8x dvd±rw (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=160320)
p4p-800vm microATX mobo :P (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=110803)

828.98 (shipping included i believe) total.

lol i forgot the keyboard mouse and monitor but im assuming hes gonna recycle :P

[SciManAl]

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[atiVidia]

maybe some totals?

anyhow, if ur uncle wants to use the system as a media center then go with mine :P

ur free to make as many changes as u want too lol

btw if u do want the comp to be able to record video then u can use this (http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/simprod.asp?pid=8026&ad=pwatch)

making the total 864.98


@ scimanAl: my sapphire 980pro is cheaper.

[SciManAl]

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[DarkClown12]

wow these are really good suggestions just need to choose and talk with him about what he really wants thanks for the help.

[SciManAl]

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[DarkClown12]

i think he has a monitor and keyboard and junk.

[SciManAl]

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[DarkClown12]

I totally understand

[SciManAl]

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[DarkClown12]

Wow lots of help so many options and so many to choose

[SciManAl]

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[DarkClown12]

that your system?

[SciManAl]

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[tesco]

Originally posted by SciManAl@14 May 2004 - 22:02
yes it is i am very proud of it.
you screwed up with the sig. its 3000+ and 3600+, NOT +3000 or +3600 lol.

[SciManAl]

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[tesco]

Originally posted by SciManAl@14 May 2004 - 22:43
i am sry i am working all this from memory so its a bit sketchy thanks for catching me anything else i did in error while were on the topic?
i dont think so...im not sure if the name is supposed to go amd 64 3000+ or if it goes 64bit amd 3000+ like you have it... just wait a sec ill go look on newegg or osmehting.

edit: ok it should be AMD Athlon 64 3000+... :)

[SciManAl]

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[DarkClown12]

kool man any pics of it?

[deathonastick]

Some words of wisdom for you...

Yes get a P4, but realize for some strange reason the 3.2 outperforms the 3.4 so don&#39;t waste your money on a 3.4 until they get it sorted out.

Another thing, hyperthreading is fine but it&#39;s support in WinXP is buggy. You will get blue screens from time to time if you enable it. I run Win2K with HT off on my 3.2. I can&#39;t speak for Linux.

Cool components are good and they last longer but the MTBF for a good hard drive is over 100 YEARS (1.2 million hours on WD Raptor) So don&#39;t go nuts with loud, annoying fans. You want the largest fan that spins at the slowest RPM. I built using Zalman heatsinks, double bearing fans, and CPU cooler and my rig is VERY QUIET. (Also an Antec Smartfan 120mm for case) I also lined my case with sound absorbing and blocking material to give it that final touch.

Stay away from ATI graphics cards. They are fast but the drivers are crap and they will crash/lock up your system.

I highly reccomend newegg.

JMHO. :)


p.s. don&#39;t forget your static strap.

[DarkClown12]

kool man thanx for the help

[SciManAl]

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[DarkClown12]

How can i make a cooling system using stuff around the house?

[atiVidia]

hmmm... unless u want to take ur fridge apart i dont think you can :P

[SciManAl]

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[DarkClown12]

ok i will