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[kaiweiler]

Hey, Just asking for some suggestions on my system!
This is how it stands now, the specs are more or less in my sig, other then a few different overclocks.
My ram is at 11-3-3-2.5, I was trying to get to 11-2-2-2 but this is as far as I could get with staying completly stable
My graphics card is running in overdrive, @ 526.5/342Mhz
and my CPU is as shown in the screenshot below
http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/v147/kaiweiler/memory.jpg

http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/v147/kaiweiler/cpu.jpg

and my full load temps are as shown below, after running SiSoft Sandra Brun in Wizard for quite some time....
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These temps are something I have been working on for a while, and I have finally chieved what I have been looking for, and that is with a massive OC on the CPU B)

Anyway, are there any suggestions on maybe hot to get my memory timings closer to 11-2-2-2 or any other suggestions would be awesome!
thanks :)

[atiVidia]

you could always get some ramsinks :)

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by atiVidia@14 May 2004 - 17:02
you could always get some ramsinks :)
thanks for the suggestion, I don't have ramsinks, but do have copper Vantec Heatspreaders wich do almost the same job, just not as well lol

[kaiweiler]

oh and also, one more thing!
my voltages are:

vcore: 1.75
chipset: 1.7
vdimm: 2.8

all the rest are stock....

[lynx]

Why have you got Tras at 11 cycles? Thats one heck of a long delay.

What are the system defaults? If you've got a GOOD mobo the defaults will probably be about right. The settings retrieved by your mobo from the SPD chip are frequency independent, so a good mobo will adjust the settings dependent on the frequency you use.

Set the timings to aggressive, then play about with the frequencies. If the timings change significantly when you reduce the frequency slightly then you can try reducing the memory timings manually. Otherwise you will have to do things by trial and error and experiment with different settings (and memory voltages) yourself.

[clocker]

Lynx,

Current scuttlebut around several forums has it that the nForce2 chipset responds well to the exaggerated tras setting of 11.
Don't know why, but I'm not that technical....

[sparsely]

I'm gonna have to suggest a Windows theme

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by lynx@14 May 2004 - 21:42
Why have you got Tras at 11 cycles? Thats one heck of a long delay.

What are the system defaults? If you've got a GOOD mobo the defaults will probably be about right. The settings retrieved by your mobo from the SPD chip are frequency independent, so a good mobo will adjust the settings dependent on the frequency you use.

Set the timings to aggressive, then play about with the frequencies. If the timings change significantly when you reduce the frequency slightly then you can try reducing the memory timings manually. Otherwise you will have to do things by trial and error and experiment with different settings (and memory voltages) yourself.
As clocker already mentioned, 11 responds best with nforce2 boards and seems to be true as far as i've seen

@sparsely - That is actually windows XP pro that you are seeing there, I just set it to "adjust for best performance" when running benchmarks or anything, which I was doing earlier...

[2nd gen noob]

There's no real point in pushing your ram further than it's "happy" to go. Tightening your timings will have a minimal effect in the real world, if I were you I wouldn't be worrying about them.

[adamp2p]

Kai;

I noticed that you have 32 processes running; if you went through Blackvipers service configuration information (http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm) you could drastically increase performance by disabling unnecessary services.

I only have 18 running (including IE, ATi tool, Rage3d tray app, gameutil.exe, edexter, and ati tray tools.

Turn off those useless services = increased performance!

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by adamp2p@15 May 2004 - 18:01
Kai;

I noticed that you have 32 processes running; if you went through Blackvipers service configuration information (http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm) you could drastically increase performance by disabling unnecessary services.

I only have 18 running (including IE, ATi tool, Rage3d tray app, gameutil.exe, edexter, and ati tray tools.

Turn off those useless services = increased performance!
thanks adam, I just did that now :)

[lynx]

Originally posted by clocker@15 May 2004 - 04:40
Lynx,

Current scuttlebut around several forums has it that the nForce2 chipset responds well to the exaggerated tras setting of 11.
Don't know why, but I'm not that technical....
I saw that when you first posted it, and I tried it, it didn't work. In fact I tried every setting between 7 and 13, and the performance degraded all the way (but obviously only slightly).

It only makes sense that the chipset would perform better with a poorer setting if it can't cope with the setting suggested by the memory. If that were the case I'm sure we would be hearing some heavy criticism of the Nforce2 chipset.

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by lynx+16 May 2004 - 05:22--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 16 May 2004 - 05:22)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@15 May 2004 - 04:40
Lynx,

Current scuttlebut around several forums has it that the nForce2 chipset responds well to the exaggerated tras setting of 11.
Don&#39;t know why, but I&#39;m not that technical....
I saw that when you first posted it, and I tried it, it didn&#39;t work. In fact I tried every setting between 7 and 13, and the performance degraded all the way (but obviously only slightly).

It only makes sense that the chipset would perform better with a poorer setting if it can&#39;t cope with the setting suggested by the memory. If that were the case I&#39;m sure we would be hearing some heavy criticism of the Nforce2 chipset. [/b][/quote]
So what do you suggest for a setting then??

[lynx]

Originally posted by kaiweiler+16 May 2004 - 20:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler &#064; 16 May 2004 - 20:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by lynx@16 May 2004 - 05:22
<!--QuoteBegin-clocker@15 May 2004 - 04:40
Lynx,

Current scuttlebut around several forums has it that the nForce2 chipset responds well to the exaggerated tras setting of 11.
Don&#39;t know why, but I&#39;m not that technical....
I saw that when you first posted it, and I tried it, it didn&#39;t work. In fact I tried every setting between 7 and 13, and the performance degraded all the way (but obviously only slightly).

It only makes sense that the chipset would perform better with a poorer setting if it can&#39;t cope with the setting suggested by the memory. If that were the case I&#39;m sure we would be hearing some heavy criticism of the Nforce2 chipset.
So what do you suggest for a setting then?? [/b][/quote]
What I originally suggested - set the timings to aggressive, and note what the timings are set at. Then lower the frequency slightly (only a few MHz) and see if any timings change. Note the new timings.

Set your frequency back to the original, then manually set your ram timings to what they were with the reduced frequency. If you go any tighter than that you are likely to run into instability.

It is impossible for me to give you any definitive figures, I would need to know the settings in the SPD chip and the formula used to convert that to ram timing. Since I don&#39;t know either, the only way to find out is by trial, but the method I&#39;ve given is likely to be close to optimum.

[kaiweiler]

Alright, Thanks :)
I&#39;ll give it a shot