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apunkrockmonk
05-16-2004, 04:03 AM
I uninstalled norton 2 days ago and installed AVS 7.0 from suprnova... ever since then windows explorer has been crashing almost every time I've opened my "My shared folder." I just uninstalled it, I was wondering if I should go back to norton or if there is a better option, either free or on suprnova. (I looked on suprnova for NOD... I don't see it on there.)

NightStalker
05-16-2004, 04:07 AM
Have you yet to try AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php)?

Xero Grid
05-16-2004, 04:09 AM
NOD32 is great. But there isn't a crack that lasts. You could keep using trial keys, but that can be a pain in the ass. So you can either try to find a crack ir you can go with AVG (http://www.grisoft.com). The only two anti-viruses I would ever recommend. I've used a lot of them, but I haven't tried AVAST, though.

In any case, AVG has a very goo free version and an even better shareware version.

-- Xero Grid --

apunkrockmonk
05-16-2004, 04:12 AM
Sorry, I'm stupid... AVS=AVG.

NightStalker
05-16-2004, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by apunkrockmonk@15 May 2004 - 23:20
Sorry, I'm stupid... AVS=AVG.
I suppose you could go with the other freeware alternative, Avast Anti-Virus.

You may also be able to find a crack/serial for Kaspersky Anti-Virus which is also a great product.

Xero Grid
05-16-2004, 04:25 AM
Ohhh, you probably got the old AVG, the one with the bad serial.
A lot of people have been using a serial or a certain keygen and the makers of AVG caught on and made updates totally screw around with AVG, if you have a serial that uses the old algorithm. It's possible that may be what was causing the crashes.

There was one released not too long ago that may work better. I still trust AVG a LOT more than I could ever trust Norton.

-- Xero Grid --

apunkrockmonk
05-16-2004, 04:37 AM
should I just go with the free version of AVG? whats the difference anyway? And one more thing I wondered, does AVG have an auto protect sort of thing like norton does?

Xero Grid
05-16-2004, 05:35 AM
OF COURSE! An anti-virus would be anything without an autoprotect. It's called the resident scanner, I believe, and NOD32 calls it AMON (Antivirus Monitor). The main reason I would choose AVG or NOD32 over Norton is because they are FAR better in detection. You don't usually have to scan for viruses. It usually catches them in the act.


AVG 6.0 is very good, and if you want less problems with cracking, go with it. The only real differences with 7.0 is that it is faster in pretty much everything and is more configurable. There are more, but those ar the most noticable. 7.0 also updates more often by default (if you want it to do it by itself) and I forgot, but I think it checks all extensions by default, but you can just select that in the settings for better protection.

I wouldn't buy 7.0 because 6.0 is that great. If I had to, I would just go back to 6.0, but at the moment, I using NOD32. I hope that helped ya. ;) :)

-- Xero Grid --

apunkrockmonk
05-16-2004, 06:14 AM
Before you responded I went to the free 6.0... and my explorer is still crashing.... it was totally fine for the period of time when I had no anti virus installed, is there any reason you could think of that this is still happening?

And thank you so much for all the advice and help so far.

Edit: Also, even though NAV is uninstalled, if I try to delete the folder from program files it tells me a dll is still in use, could this be the reason that this problem is occuring? somthing left over from norton interfering with AVG?

Xero Grid
05-16-2004, 07:00 AM
Are you sure you don't have a virus? Perhaps one that is directly attacking AVG? They exist. Maybe just checking the NOD32 on-demans scanner, just to be sure.

This is a long shot, but maybe it's some file left behind by some program you once had Try going to the program files directory of AVG and deleting everything after uninstalation, and do the same thing with Norton, and check the Application data directory, as well.

I would also clean the registry. RegSeeker (http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm) is great for that.

But if all else fails, you can just try another anti-virus. I hear avast is pretty good, but like I said, I've never tried it.

--EDIT--
It's kinda funny that you were thinking along the same lines as I. :lol:
Well, if that's the case, open task manager (control+Alt+Delete) and see what's running. If it's anything Norton, get rid of it. Also, check to see if you have Live Register or LiveUpdate installed (they are usually seperate) and get rid of them and clean the registry.

Hopefully, that'll do the trick.

-- Xero Grid --

zapjb
05-16-2004, 07:01 AM
Imo you're infected (virus & or trojan) & or registry f'd up.

apunkrockmonk
05-16-2004, 07:13 AM
a process called NPROTECT.EXE is running, thats probably related to norton i'm guessing. I just scanned for viruses, spyware, and trojans, so I'm pretty sure I'm clean on those, I'll uninstall AVG and clean out the directories and registry and get back to you in the next 15 minutes (hopefully it won't take longer then that.)

Update: I'm pretty sure all is good now, if it starts happening again I'll make sure to ask for more help lol. But yes, if it does still happen I should probably just get a different anti virus. Thanks again for all the help.... and Xero Grid... Super Trick XG us great, much better then my old hosts. :D

Xero Grid
05-16-2004, 07:43 AM
Oh, thanks. I feel so loved. B)
But, seriously, it's great that I helped some people out. I'm still trying to spread my installer, though. Hell, now that I think about it, I don't have anything to gain from it besides self-gratification. :lol:

-- Xero Grid --

shn
05-16-2004, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by apunkrockmonk@15 May 2004 - 22:11
I uninstalled norton 2 days ago and installed AVS 7.0 from suprnova... ever since then windows explorer has been crashing almost every time I've opened my "My shared folder." I just uninstalled it, I was wondering if I should go back to norton or if there is a better option, either free or on suprnova. (I looked on suprnova for NOD... I don't see it on there.)
If Windows Explorer is crashing you may have too many thumbnails in the folder. Turn off thumbnail view and switch to listing your icons and it will probably stop crashing.

You can find out how to turn thumbnails off by searching google, I'm too tired to tell ta. :)

apunkrockmonk
05-16-2004, 06:01 PM
Although there are about 3,000 items in the folder, most of them are in sub folders, but a good 500 of them have to be in just "My Shared Folder" and I use list view for them.

UcanRock2
05-16-2004, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Xero Grid@16 May 2004 - 07:51
Oh, thanks. I feel so loved.  B)
But, seriously, it's great that I helped some people out. I'm still trying to spread my installer, though. Hell, now that I think about it, I don't have anything to gain from it besides self-gratification.  :lol:

-- Xero Grid --
Keep up the good work!!!


We do appreciate it!!! ;)

apunkrockmonk
05-16-2004, 07:48 PM
I have another explorer related problem, although its no where near as big of a deal as the last one.

http://apunkrockmonk.250free.com/commontask.jpg

The top link (which would make winamp 5.03 open the mp3s) does nothing, the bottom link, which would have media player burn them to a cd still works, and I don't give a damn about the middle link. I tried restoring all the registry entries that regseeker removed, but that didn't fix the problem. Have any idea why it might not work? I've tried re-installing winamp, uninstalling and then re-installing winamp, I've checked the file associations, but now I'm just play stumped :huh: .

UcanRock2
05-16-2004, 07:53 PM
Forgot to mention the problem <_<

apunkrockmonk
05-16-2004, 07:55 PM
The problem is the top link (Play selection) does nothing when clicked, where as (as of last night) it would open the audio files in winamp.

Xero Grid
05-16-2004, 07:59 PM
I&#39;ve never heard of that one.
You still have that option in the context menu, don&#39;t you? You can use the play in Winamp option (I forgot the exact name) until you get it fixed.

-- Xero Grid --

apunkrockmonk
05-16-2004, 08:02 PM
Yes, but you know us kids, anything to save a second.

UcanRock2
05-16-2004, 08:11 PM
Is Winamp your default player?

apunkrockmonk
05-16-2004, 08:48 PM
Yes, for all audio files.

UcanRock2
05-16-2004, 09:35 PM
Can you play your music files through the Winamp player?

Was just looking at my Music Folder...right click an any music file, and click "Play". And see if Winamp will play that file.

I just clicked the "Play All" button, and I even received an error "Choosing to &#39;Play&#39; 2103 items at once may take a long time and cause your computer to respond slowly".. You&#39;re overloading your player. :(

Just go into Winamp and fill your Music Library, and go from there.

If all fails...do the following:

Uninstall Winamp and install MusicMatch&#33; :P (http://www.musicmatch.com)

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