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Keikan
05-16-2004, 09:13 AM
why can't you divide by zero?

i need you opinion on this. thanks.

toco004
05-16-2004, 09:15 AM
anything divided by 0 is 0.

brotherdoobie
05-16-2004, 09:20 AM
"There are sort of two reasons. For one thing, when you divide one number by
another, you expect the result to be another number. So in particular, look
at the sequence of numbers 1/(1/2), 1/(1/3), 1/(1/4), ... . Notice that the
bottoms of the fractions are 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, ..., and that they're going to
zero. So if there's a limit to this sequence, we would take that number and
call it 1/0. So let's see if there is.

Well, the sequence turns out to be 2, 3, 4, ..., and that goes to infinity.
Since infinity isn't a real number, we don't assign any value to 1/0. We
just say it's undefined.

But let's say we did. Let's say that infinity is a real number, and 1/0 is
infinity. Then look at the sequence 1/(-1/2), 1/(-1/3), 1/(-1/4), ..., and
notice again that the denominators -1/2, -1/3, -1/4, ..., are going to zero.
So again, we would want the limit of this sequence to be 1/0. But looking at
the sequence, it simplifies to -2, -3, -4, ..., and it goes to negative
infinity. So which would we assign to 1/0? Negative infinity or positive
infinity? Instead of just assigning one willy nilly, we say that infinity
isn't a number, and that 1/0 is undefined."*
*Google
Peace brotherdoobie

Keikan
05-16-2004, 09:35 AM
o ya i need your own answer not googles

Cheese
05-16-2004, 09:37 AM
Because it's not a number.

brotherdoobie
05-16-2004, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@16 May 2004 - 04:43
o ya i need your own answer not googles
Does it matter if I am Google? :blink:

Peace brotherdoobie

toco004
05-16-2004, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Withcheese@16 May 2004 - 01:45
Because it's not a number.
Well Done :beerchug:

brotherdoobie
05-16-2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Withcheese@16 May 2004 - 04:45
Because it's not a number.
So much more consise than my Googled reply ;)
Cheers Cheese :beerchug:

Peace brotherdoobie

2nd gen noob
05-16-2004, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by toco004@16 May 2004 - 09:23
anything divided by 0 is 0.
Wow, you just revolutionized maths :o

You can't divide by zero as the result is undefined. Is it infinity? Who can say

toco004
05-16-2004, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by 2nd gen noob+16 May 2004 - 01:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2nd gen noob @ 16 May 2004 - 01:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-toco004@16 May 2004 - 09:23
anything divided by 0 is 0.
You can&#39;t divide by zero as the result is undefined. Is it infinity? [/b][/quote]
thats what i was trying to say

brotherdoobie
05-16-2004, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by toco004+16 May 2004 - 04:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (toco004 @ 16 May 2004 - 04:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 2nd gen noob@16 May 2004 - 01:53
<!--QuoteBegin-toco004@16 May 2004 - 09:23
anything divided by 0 is 0.
You can&#39;t divide by zero as the result is undefined. Is it infinity?
thats what i was trying to say [/b][/quote]
That&#39;s what Google said son.....Not good enough for you?...Meh&#33;

Peace brotherdoobie

destroyerofevil
05-16-2004, 09:54 AM
Becoz 0 is neither a prime nor a composite number. It also isnt a natural number.

brotherdoobie
05-16-2004, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by destroyerofevil@16 May 2004 - 05:02
Becoz 0 is neither a prime nor a composite number. It also isnt a natural number.
Close this topic please...due to retardation and redundancy. ;)

Peace brotherdoobie :lol:

destroyerofevil
05-16-2004, 10:01 AM
Retardation? :huh: Me just stating mathematical facts. :angry: If any1 around here is retarded its u. :angry:































Nah jk dood. :)

brotherdoobie
05-16-2004, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by destroyerofevil@16 May 2004 - 05:09
Retardation? :huh: Me just stating mathematical facts. :angry: If any1 around here is retarded its u. :angry:































Nah jk dood. :)
As I was....Retarded ;)

Peace brotherdoobie

DanB
05-16-2004, 11:26 AM
You can&#39;t divide things by Zero cos he isn&#39;t here yet :rolleyes:

Cheese
05-16-2004, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by danb@16 May 2004 - 10:34
You can&#39;t divide things by Zero cos he isn&#39;t here yet :rolleyes:
Here&#39;s your coat dan, and your hat and there is a taxi waiting for you outside.

DanB
05-16-2004, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Withcheese+16 May 2004 - 12:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Withcheese &#064; 16 May 2004 - 12:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-danb@16 May 2004 - 10:34
You can&#39;t divide things by Zero cos he isn&#39;t here yet&nbsp; :rolleyes:
Here&#39;s your coat dan, and your hat and there is a taxi waiting for you outside. [/b][/quote]
Is it taking me somewhere for breakfast? :unsure:


edit - I take it you haven&#39;t looked out the window today? :lol: I won&#39;t be needing a coat :rolleyes:

thewizeard
05-16-2004, 11:39 AM
Ok, great theory, but then lets say I have 1 apple, and I don&#39;t divide it so 1. apple/0 ....surely I have still got 1 apple and not zero apples? :)

2nd gen noob
05-16-2004, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by toco004+16 May 2004 - 09:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (toco004 @ 16 May 2004 - 09:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 2nd gen noob@16 May 2004 - 01:53
<!--QuoteBegin-toco004@16 May 2004 - 09:23
anything divided by 0 is 0.
You can&#39;t divide by zero as the result is undefined. Is it infinity?
thats what i was trying to say [/b][/quote]
What you said is that anything divided by 0 is 0, which is blatantly untrue. Anything multiplied by 0 is 0, yes. The same does not apply for division

J'Pol
05-16-2004, 11:48 AM
Any number dived by 0 provides infinity as the answer.

If you divide by 1, you get the same number

If you divide by 1/2 you multiply by 2

If you divide by 1/4 you multiply by 4

If you divide by 1/123456789 you multiply by 123456789

So the smaller the number you divide by, the higher the number you effectively multiply by. It&#39;s a reciprocal thing.

As 0 (which is a number) is infinitely small, then that is the same as multiplying by an infinitely large number.

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
05-16-2004, 11:58 AM
:huh:

thewizeard
05-16-2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@16 May 2004 - 11:56


As 0 (which is a number) is infinitely small, then that is the same as multiplying by an infinitely large number.
So "my" apple would suddenly expand to the size of the universe....

2nd gen noob
05-16-2004, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by nigel123+16 May 2004 - 12:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 16 May 2004 - 12:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@16 May 2004 - 11:56


As 0 (which is a number) is infinitely small, then that is the same as multiplying by an infinitely large number.
So "my" apple would suddenly expand to the size of the universe.... [/b][/quote]
Practical application of theoretical concepts is a little tricky ;)

Cheese
05-16-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by nigel123@16 May 2004 - 10:47
Ok, great theory, but then lets say I have 1 apple, and I don&#39;t divide it so 1. apple/0 ....surely I have still got 1 apple and not zero apples? :)
Choosing not to do something to an object does not automatically lead to the equation object/0.

J'Pol
05-16-2004, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by nigel123+16 May 2004 - 13:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 16 May 2004 - 13:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@16 May 2004 - 11:56


As 0 (which is a number) is infinitely small, then that is the same as multiplying by an infinitely large number.
So "my" apple would suddenly expand to the size of the universe.... [/b][/quote]
We&#39;re talking maths here old bean, not arithmetic. Or fruitering for that matter.

thewizeard
05-16-2004, 12:42 PM
I thought for a minute that we had stumbled on the solution for the food shortage supply in our world... by the way, what has " old beans" got to do with the subject matter? :)

Edit: typo of course...

Rat Faced
05-16-2004, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by nigel123+16 May 2004 - 12:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 16 May 2004 - 12:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@16 May 2004 - 11:56


As 0 (which is a number) is infinitely small, then that is the same as multiplying by an infinitely large number.
So "my" apple would suddenly expand to the size of the universe.... [/b][/quote]
I think current theories suggest that the Universe is finite....just very big.

So, to quote Pratchet, it would be the size of the multiverse :blink:

:unsure:

thewizeard
05-16-2004, 12:51 PM
:o Well...I just hope nobody divides my apple, or those old beans by zero, while I am holding it/ them... :fugley:

JONNO_CELEBS
05-16-2004, 12:52 PM
Whats "Divide"? :huh:

Jonno B)

J'Pol
05-16-2004, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Rat Faced+16 May 2004 - 13:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rat Faced @ 16 May 2004 - 13:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by nigel123@16 May 2004 - 12:09
<!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@16 May 2004 - 11:56


As 0 (which is a number) is infinitely small, then that is the same as multiplying by an infinitely large number.
So "my" apple would suddenly expand to the size of the universe....
I think current theories suggest that the Universe is finite....just very big.

So, to quote Pratchet, it would be the size of the multiverse :blink:

:unsure: [/b][/quote]
I always though that it was infinite, within a finite expanding space. Maybe I picked that bit up wrong.

Rat Faced
05-16-2004, 01:11 PM
I dont think either of us are in that league on our science J&#39;Pol...

Lets just flip a coin :lol: :lol:

J'Pol
05-16-2004, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Rat Faced@16 May 2004 - 14:19
I dont think either of us are in that league on our science J&#39;Pol...

Lets just flip a coin :lol: :lol:
Nah, I think I&#39;ll just have another pan-galactic gargle blaster.

What was the question again.

Rick Phlegm
05-16-2004, 02:04 PM
The universe is finite and I&#39;m told it&#39;s the shape of a trumpet :blink:

destroyerofevil
05-16-2004, 02:05 PM
Wow now ive figured out how many nerds there r on this board. :D :ermm:

J'Pol
05-16-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by destroyerofevil@16 May 2004 - 15:13
Wow now ive figured out how many nerds there r on this board. :D :ermm:
Certainly you&#39;ve identified one nob, you only had to post something to do that.