Rage 128 Pro

[Tormentor]

Put it here cause I thaught i whould get more help here.

Ok the drivers that come with XP do not support Open Gl and the new drivers off of ATI's website do. But when i try to update the drivers it says device not compatible, so i uzip the files and update manually, it works but when i try to play a game such as mohaa or jedi outcast it says failed to load open Gl subsystem.What is wrong here? Dont give me crap like get a new video card, because i dont care.

Anyone now what the problem is? I tried driver cleaner and it didnt work.

[scottwile]

is that that 32mb version?
i'm running that card until i get a new one.
i didn't need any divers with XP pro

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by scottwile@12 June 2004 - 18:44
is that that 32mb version?
i'm running that card until i get a new one.
i didn't need any divers with XP pro
You have the driver that come with xp, and if you try to run a game such as mohaa or jedi outcast it wont be able to load.

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by Tormentor+12 June 2004 - 21:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tormentor &#064; 12 June 2004 - 21:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-scottwile@12 June 2004 - 18:44
is that that 32mb version?
i&#39;m running that card until i get a new one.
i didn&#39;t need any divers with XP pro
You have the driver that come with xp, and if you try to run a game such as mohaa or jedi outcast it wont be able to load. [/b][/quote]
that could be because of the shittiness of the card, not the drivers :lol:
it is quite possibly one of the worst cards i&#39;ve ever used...

[tesco]

Tormentor, why won&#39;t u just upgrade the card. It is an utter POS, and really needs an updating, Don&#39;t be so stubborn, go for an MX440. you can find one for liek 40 bucks, maybe 30 or even 20 if u look hard enough. It will run circles around that shitty rage 128 pro <_< :lol:

edit: PNY Geforce MX 440 64mb (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=161766&Sku=P56-2732&CatId=1087) 40 bucks, (plus shipping, &#036;16) but this is just to show you how cheap u can get them for...

[Tormentor]

I know but why wouyld they make drivers that dont work with the card?

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:56
I know but why wouyld they make drivers that dont work with the card?
it is probably not the drivers, chances are the card itself is not capable of running the game

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by kaiweiler+12 June 2004 - 20:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler @ 12 June 2004 - 20:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:56
I know but why wouyld they make drivers that dont work with the card?
it is probably not the drivers, chances are the card itself is not capable of running the game [/b][/quote]
You didnt read carfeull enough. When i try to install the drivers it says the drivers are not compatible with the devices installed on this blah blah blah. I have a rage 128 pro and the drivers are supposed to be compatible wqith a rage 128 pro.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 21:56
I know but why wouyld they make drivers that dont work with the card?
because they don&#39;t support it anymore, they never made XP drivers for it becasue it stopped being supported long before XP came out...i think... :unsure:

makes sense though, right? lol

[tesco]

Originally posted by Tormentor+12 June 2004 - 22:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tormentor @ 12 June 2004 - 22:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kaiweiler@12 June 2004 - 20:00
<!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:56
I know but why wouyld they make drivers that dont work with the card?
it is probably not the drivers, chances are the card itself is not capable of running the game
You didnt read carfeull enough. When i try to install the drivers it says the drivers are not compatible with the devices installed on this blah blah blah. I have a rage 128 pro and the drivers are supposed to be compatible wqith a rage 128 pro. [/b][/quote]
u sure it is SUPPOSED TO BE supported?

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+12 June 2004 - 20:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 12 June 2004 - 20:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:07

Originally posted by kaiweiler@12 June 2004 - 20:00
<!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:56
I know but why wouyld they make drivers that dont work with the card?
it is probably not the drivers, chances are the card itself is not capable of running the game
You didnt read carfeull enough. When i try to install the drivers it says the drivers are not compatible with the devices installed on this blah blah blah. I have a rage 128 pro and the drivers are supposed to be compatible wqith a rage 128 pro.
u sure it is SUPPOSED TO BE supported? [/b][/quote]
:frusty: Yes, im not stupid.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Tormentor+12 June 2004 - 22:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tormentor &#064; 12 June 2004 - 22:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@12 June 2004 - 20:08

Originally posted by Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:07

Originally posted by kaiweiler@12 June 2004 - 20:00
<!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:56
I know but why wouyld they make drivers that dont work with the card?
it is probably not the drivers, chances are the card itself is not capable of running the game
You didnt read carfeull enough. When i try to install the drivers it says the drivers are not compatible with the devices installed on this blah blah blah. I have a rage 128 pro and the drivers are supposed to be compatible wqith a rage 128 pro.
u sure it is SUPPOSED TO BE supported?
:frusty: Yes, im not stupid. [/b][/quote]
:D second person i made do that today lol.

try emailing ATI then..

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+12 June 2004 - 20:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 &#064; 12 June 2004 - 20:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:12

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@12 June 2004 - 20:08

Originally posted by Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:07

Originally posted by kaiweiler@12 June 2004 - 20:00
<!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:56
I know but why wouyld they make drivers that dont work with the card?
it is probably not the drivers, chances are the card itself is not capable of running the game
You didnt read carfeull enough. When i try to install the drivers it says the drivers are not compatible with the devices installed on this blah blah blah. I have a rage 128 pro and the drivers are supposed to be compatible wqith a rage 128 pro.
u sure it is SUPPOSED TO BE supported?
:frusty: Yes, im not stupid.
:D second person i made do that today lol.

try emailing ATI then.. [/b][/quote]
Im gonna see if the drivers for win 2000 work.

[Tormentor]

:frusty:

What email adress can I contact them at?

[tesco]

Originally posted by Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:22
:frusty:

What email adress can I contact them at?
Gees your lazy (http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/contact/index.html)

here is actual contact sheet. (http://apps.ati.com/cservice/webform.asp)

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+12 June 2004 - 20:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 12 June 2004 - 20:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:22
:frusty:

What email adress can I contact them at?
Gees your lazy (http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/contact/index.html)

here is actual contact sheet. (http://apps.ati.com/cservice/webform.asp) [/b][/quote]
Yup :lol:

[Tormentor]

I guess this card wasnt "Built by ATI" and i have no idea what company made it cuz it dosnt say the company name on the card.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:37
I guess this card wasnt "Built by ATI" and i have no idea what company made it cuz it dosnt say the company name on the card.
doesn&#39;t matter much...lol

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+12 June 2004 - 20:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 12 June 2004 - 20:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 22:37
I guess this card wasnt "Built by ATI" and i have no idea what company made it cuz it dosnt say the company name on the card.
doesn&#39;t matter much...lol [/b][/quote]
Yes it does, it syas powered by ati products need special drivers.

[kaiweiler]

the rage 128 pro is built by ATI
I know it is

EDIT
See?? (http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/1999/4181.html)

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@12 June 2004 - 20:46
the rage 128 pro is built by ATI
I know it is

EDIT
See?? (http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/1999/4181.html)
The one i have is powered by ATi, not built by them

[tesco]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@12 June 2004 - 22:46
the rage 128 pro is built by ATI
I know it is

EDIT
See?? (http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/1999/4181.html)
that doesn&#39;t mean they build teh card, they just build the chip and sell it to other companies to make their own video cards. hence the "powered by ati" and "built by ati" labels...

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+13 June 2004 - 00:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 13 June 2004 - 00:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kaiweiler@12 June 2004 - 22:46
the rage 128 pro is built by ATI
I know it is

EDIT
See?? (http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/1999/4181.html)
that doesn&#39;t mean they build teh card, they just build the chip and sell it to other companies to make their own video cards. hence the "powered by ati" and "built by ati" labels... [/b][/quote]
Exactly&#33; and his is Powered by ATI <_< meaning powered by the ATI chip

[peat moss]

I&#39;m glad you two cleared that up for us nOObs . :lol:

[peat moss]

@Tormentor Dude check the system requirments for the game then double it cause you card can&#39;t play it . Hey it sucks but drivers are not going to help you in this case . :)

[tesco]

Originally posted by kaiweiler+12 June 2004 - 23:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler @ 12 June 2004 - 23:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@13 June 2004 - 00:05
<!--QuoteBegin-kaiweiler@12 June 2004 - 22:46
the rage 128 pro is built by ATI
I know it is

EDIT
See?? (http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/1999/4181.html)
that doesn&#39;t mean they build teh card, they just build the chip and sell it to other companies to make their own video cards. hence the "powered by ati" and "built by ati" labels...
Exactly&#33; and his is Powered by ATI <_< meaning powered by the ATI chip [/b][/quote]
yes it has an ati chip, but tormentor said he needs a special driver for his card because it isn&#39;t made by ati... <_<

lol, im just as confused as you are, im just arguing his ideas lol.

[Tormentor]

You confusing me, ATI said the problem was that the card wasnt "Built by ATI" only "Powered by ATI". I checked all there partner websites and found out my card bast built by sapphre. So i installed the drivers they had there and GUESS WHAT? They worked. Now when I play outcast and mohaa it actually lets me play them.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 23:46
You confusing me, ATI said the problem was that the card wasnt "Built by ATI" only "Powered by ATI". I checked all there partner websites and found out my card bast built by sapphre. So i installed the drivers they had there and GUESS WHAT? They worked. Now when I play outcast and mohaa it actually lets me play them.
well, good to know u got it fixed.

i understood u said that it was a problem that it wasn&#39;t built by ati, just didn&#39;t understand what the difference is. :lol:

oh well, it works it works, who cares why lol.

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+12 June 2004 - 21:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 &#064; 12 June 2004 - 21:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@12 June 2004 - 23:46
You confusing me, ATI said the problem was that the card wasnt "Built by ATI" only "Powered by ATI". I checked all there partner websites and found out my card bast built by sapphre. So i installed the drivers they had there and GUESS WHAT? They worked. Now when I play outcast and mohaa it actually lets me play them.
well, good to know u got it fixed.

i understood u said that it was a problem that it wasn&#39;t built by ati, just didn&#39;t understand what the difference is. :lol:

oh well, it works it works, who cares why lol. [/b][/quote]
Ya neiter did I, but according to the facts and ATI&#39;s website their drivers only work on built by ati cards. Fuckin idiots could have just made the drivers work for all cards. Actually I gues its the manufacturesd fault.

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+12 June 2004 - 21:22--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 &#064; 12 June 2004 - 21:22)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kaiweiler@12 June 2004 - 23:11

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@13 June 2004 - 00:05
<!--QuoteBegin-kaiweiler@12 June 2004 - 22:46
the rage 128 pro is built by ATI
I know it is

EDIT
See?? (http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/1999/4181.html)
that doesn&#39;t mean they build teh card, they just build the chip and sell it to other companies to make their own video cards. hence the "powered by ati" and "built by ati" labels...
Exactly&#33; and his is Powered by ATI <_< meaning powered by the ATI chip
yes it has an ati chip, but tormentor said he needs a special driver for his card because it isn&#39;t made by ati... <_<

lol, im just as confused as you are, im just arguing his ideas lol. [/b][/quote]
My ideas??? There not mine, they are facts off of ATI&#39;s website. You make it seem like I just came up with the idea that a Powered by ATI rage 128 pro needs diffrent drivers. I read that off the site.

[peat moss]

@Tormentor Hey you got it working and taught us something along the way, can&#39;t argue with that . B)

Edit : Your one stubborn basturd , I like that . :D

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by peat moss@12 June 2004 - 22:00
@Tormentor Hey you got it working and taught us something along the way, can&#39;t argue with that . B)
Taught you what? That a Built by ATI and a Powered by ATI rage 128 pro need diffrent drivers?? How is that gonna be usefull? Unless someone buys one :lol:

[peat moss]

Oh well mabye someone will come across the same problem and see the fix , here in this thread . :)

[Keikan]

I played mohaa with a 16mb ati xpert 128 with rage 128 chip :)

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by Keikan@13 June 2004 - 05:09
I played mohaa with a 16mb ati xpert 128 with rage 128 chip :)
How well did it work?

[tesco]

Originally posted by peat moss@13 June 2004 - 00:08
Oh well mabye someone will come across the same problem and see the fix , here in this thread . :)
Maybe we should pin it <_<

:lol:

[Mad Cat]

Might be a problem with the Q3A engine (MOHAA, Jedi Knight...).

It said failed to open OpenGL subsystem for me many times, but I had corrupt .pk3s.

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by Mad Cat@13 June 2004 - 09:35
Might be a problem with the Q3A engine (MOHAA, Jedi Knight...).

It said failed to open OpenGL subsystem for me many times, but I had corrupt .pk3s.
No the problem was definetlly with the drivers, wouldnt let me install the ones off ati&#39;s site, so i filled out that form thingy rossco pointed out, then it said powered by ati cards need diffrent drivers, from the actuall maunfacurer, so after alot of searching i found out this card was built by sapphire. So i went to there site and went to there drivers section and downoaded there drivers for there rage 128 pro and it let me install them fine and now i can play outcast and mohaa fine. Feels like I have been repeating myself.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Tormentor+13 June 2004 - 13:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tormentor @ 13 June 2004 - 13:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@13 June 2004 - 09:35
Might be a problem with the Q3A engine (MOHAA, Jedi Knight...).

It said failed to open OpenGL subsystem for me many times, but I had corrupt .pk3s.
No the problem was definetlly with the drivers, wouldnt let me install the ones off ati&#39;s site, so i filled out that form thingy rossco pointed out, then it said powered by ati cards need diffrent drivers, from the actuall maunfacurer, so after alot of searching i found out this card was built by sapphire. So i went to there site and went to there drivers section and downoaded there drivers for there rage 128 pro and it let me install them fine and now i can play outcast and mohaa fine. Feels like I have been repeating myself. [/b][/quote]
you have <_< :lol:

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+13 June 2004 - 13:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 13 June 2004 - 13:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Tormentor@13 June 2004 - 13:49
<!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@13 June 2004 - 09:35
Might be a problem with the Q3A engine (MOHAA, Jedi Knight...).

It said failed to open OpenGL subsystem for me many times, but I had corrupt .pk3s.
No the problem was definetlly with the drivers, wouldnt let me install the ones off ati&#39;s site, so i filled out that form thingy rossco pointed out, then it said powered by ati cards need diffrent drivers, from the actuall maunfacurer, so after alot of searching i found out this card was built by sapphire. So i went to there site and went to there drivers section and downoaded there drivers for there rage 128 pro and it let me install them fine and now i can play outcast and mohaa fine. Feels like I have been repeating myself.
you have <_< :lol: [/b][/quote]
But nobody seems to understand.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Tormentor+13 June 2004 - 19:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tormentor @ 13 June 2004 - 19:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@13 June 2004 - 13:49

Originally posted by Tormentor@13 June 2004 - 13:49
<!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@13 June 2004 - 09:35
Might be a problem with the Q3A engine (MOHAA, Jedi Knight...).

It said failed to open OpenGL subsystem for me many times, but I had corrupt .pk3s.
No the problem was definetlly with the drivers, wouldnt let me install the ones off ati&#39;s site, so i filled out that form thingy rossco pointed out, then it said powered by ati cards need diffrent drivers, from the actuall maunfacurer, so after alot of searching i found out this card was built by sapphire. So i went to there site and went to there drivers section and downoaded there drivers for there rage 128 pro and it let me install them fine and now i can play outcast and mohaa fine. Feels like I have been repeating myself.
you have <_< :lol:
But nobody seems to understand. [/b][/quote]
:lol: i know lol

[Keikan]

Originally posted by Ariel_001+13 June 2004 - 02:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ariel_001 @ 13 June 2004 - 02:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@13 June 2004 - 05:09
I played mohaa with a 16mb ati xpert 128 with rage 128 chip :)
How well did it work? [/b][/quote]
It was an acceptable fps with low quality and 640x480 but playable