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clocker
06-17-2004, 06:33 AM
The most amazingly detailed mod ever...ORAC3 (http://bit-tech.net/article/135/)...the final installation .

We are not worthy.

lynx
06-17-2004, 10:10 AM
Certainly, the amount and quality of the work it impressive.

But I can't help feeling that he could have organised the placement of some of the components a little better.

A look at just a few of his pics leads me to one conclusion - Spaghetti.
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IMO, a good project made bad by overengineering.

RGX
06-17-2004, 11:57 AM
The attention to detail is unbeleivable, go that man!

tesco
06-17-2004, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by lynx@17 June 2004 - 05:18
Certainly, the amount and quality of the work it impressive.

But I can't help feeling that he could have organised the placement of some of the components a little better.

A look at just a few of his pics leads me to one conclusion - Spaghetti.
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IMO, a good project made bad by overengineering.
maybe becuase if it was neat it would look less sophisticated? :unsure:

clocker
06-17-2004, 01:12 PM
Lynx,
Have you followed the project from it's inception?
The clutter is intentional.

One can only imagine what it would look like if he had gone for the sleek, clean look.
I can understand how the final product might not appeal to all, it's the scope and detail of the project that blows me away.

Virtualbody1234
06-17-2004, 03:17 PM
I'm totally in awe of this project but i tend to agree with lynx. Imagine if something fails like say the motherboard. Think of the amount of work involved in replacing it. :o

kaiweiler
06-17-2004, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@17 June 2004 - 11:25
I'm totally in awe of this project but i tend to agree with lynx. Imagine if something fails like say the motherboard. Think of the amount of work involved in replacing it. :o
I agree,
Convenient?? no...
Eye candy?? Very much of it!
But I must say, it is a piece very very well done. My congrats go out to the maker/owner.

lynx
06-17-2004, 06:39 PM
Clocker,
Yes, I've followed it from the first post. I somehow missed out on part 4, but I've caught up on that now. I didn't realise at first that it was going to look so cluttered, it wasn't until about part 3 that I saw what was happening. Personally I think it detracts from the overall look.

The other question is, will it be reliable?

Even though he's gone for water cooling, I still foresee overheating problems with all that "clutter" getting in the way of having any sort of reasonable airflow, I also suspect his pump may get a little warm in such a snug case.

kaiweiler
06-17-2004, 07:01 PM
I was also thinking about that Lynx, what about the components that aren't watercooled, such as Hard Drives and Ram?? I can see those overheating quite quickly.

clocker
06-17-2004, 07:22 PM
K and Lynx,

Must you allow reality to intrude into this fantasy build?
I must admit that I'm curious about the performance also, but assume that it's actually of secondary interest to g-gnome.

Maybe he'll post some info about the running characteristics in the future.

kaiweiler
06-17-2004, 07:47 PM
:lol: Sorry Clocker,
I'm just a Performance/Cooling nut!
I'm surprised you weren't one of the first to say how unconvenient it would be, you do have quite the reputation as a serious cooling nut ;)

clocker
06-18-2004, 02:38 AM
DUH! K.
Of course I realize that this thing is a nightmare to work on.
Even g-gnome says that.
Keep in mind the aesthetic of the Sixties ( which is what he was paying tribute to here, after all).

Back then, computers were supposed to be wildly complex spaghetti tangles of wires and glowie bits ( very mysterious...who knew what they did?) that looked seriously daunting and powerful.

Today of course, we know better.
It would be fascinating to see what G-gnome came up with should he decide to make a seriously practical and totally functional piece of modern kit using the same dedication and attention to detail that he applied to Orac3.

But then we'd prolly all be saying " Gee, it looks really clean and I'll bet it works great, but it sure is boring". :P

Basically, practical criticisms of Orac3 are akin to looking at a Boyd Coddington hot rod and saying, "Well, it sure is pretty, but how does she handle in the snow?"

Who cares?

Virtualbody1234
06-18-2004, 02:51 AM
I wonder how that Orac3 would handle in snow. Ah, I guess you're right. Who cares? :lol:

Duffman
06-18-2004, 02:56 AM
Its his attention to detail, time, effort, creativeness all rolled into one. He fused art and technology. Its not always about the easiest most acesable plan for the worst thing. It art.

clocker
06-18-2004, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@17 June 2004 - 19:59
I wonder how that Orac3 would handle in snow.
I'll bet Abu would know.
His HDD could outperform a Polaris.

Virtualbody1234
06-18-2004, 04:10 AM
:lol: :lol: http://www.sledmaine.com/contest/2003/gotsnow.jpg