Vga Cooler?

[QazQaz007]

hey all my friend's got a GF 4 4800 TI SE
and his fan stoped on it.
so we looked online for another one but couldn't find one
so went to look for a vga cooler for O.C. and stuff
but when i look at the holes for the screws to line
up they don't

so i ask if anyone has found one before or
knows were to find a O.C. one or one to
replace the one that came with it

p.s.

i was looking at the zalman ZM80D-HP
but i cant seem to find it at any of the online
stores (stores that i have had/heard good history with)
if you could help out at all or have a different idea
that would be great

thanks! :01:

[kaiweiler]

The zalman one you listed is very good, but as for not finding any stores that have it, where are you from?
If you can't find that one, have a look at the ZM80C-HP instead, it's just the one before it.
What I did was made my own. If you like take an old cpu heatsink and mod that onto your gfx card. If you plan on maybe doing something like this, just ask and I'll show you how I did mine.
The zalman one would probably preform better then a homemade one, but costs way more so it's up to you

[QazQaz007]

for the store its not about local if i can i will buy online
its just i want a site i can trust-you know credit card #
and all. i just dont want a mom and pop web site
with no way to stop someone from getting my info

as for making it my self-i thought of that to
but the way the board is layed out it out be
very unstable and also there are other point
that need cooling that a 80mm fan cant get to
some transitors and chips are in the way
and if i put i on top of them its to far away
and i dont want to run the risk of cooking it

yea i saw the zm80c but if im going to buy that why not
go all the way its not that much more

do you know of a site that i can trust to buy the zm80d
from?

thanks

[kaiweiler]

I needed to know where your from so I know what stores to look at, they all only ship to a certain country or two!
I wasn't planning on giving you a visit or anything! :lol:
what country are you from??

[QazQaz007]

ok ok sorry
U.S.A

sorry

im sure it would of been nice
to meet you though
:lol:

[kaiweiler]

Hmm I had a look around at all the american sites I know, and it seems that they all only have the ZM80C-HP or even the ZM80A-HP but none seem to have the ZM80D-HP at all :(
I'll keep lookin around for you though

[QazQaz007]

thank you very much for your help

ps i see in your banner that you oc
and you know comps pretty well

so i have a ? for you

what would you do if you were me
what would you do with my comp

amd 3000
ati 9800xt
dvd-16x
dvdrw-8x
cdrw-52x24x52
HDD-160gb
HDD2-160gb
HDD3 hot swap-80gb
ram-2x256 DDR 2100
mobo-GA-7N400 Pro2
case fans-7 4 in front on HDD 2 in back 1 on sidepanal
psu-400
cpu fan-??? some really good one spins so fast it cut my finger
case-
http://www.gameve.com/gve/Products/Images/shot/CS-RAID-868WB.gif
red light not blue

what would you upgrad/OC/mod? other than the ram
i got moders block
:lol:

[kaiweiler]

Hmm that is quite a fast comp to begin with, except for the ram obviously. That should be your first priority to upgrade the ram. but other then that it is quite a fast system.
once you get faster ram I would OC the cpu to maybe 2.5ishGhz and OC the new ram as well to run 1:1 ratio with the cpu.
The gfx does not need to be oc'ed but definatly can be if you like. however it's already an amazing card.
how are your fans positioned? I would keep the 4 in front as intake. The 2 in back as exhaust. the sidepanel as intake. and then if your brave cut a blowhole in the top of your case and put a fan in that as exhaust as well. if you do not cut the blowhole, try the sidepanel as exhaust rather then intake. your supposed to try to balance your number of exhaust with your intake to get optimal performance.
I'm familiar with that case, so also one main thing you should do is this. take off your front panel. you'll notice the fan grills on front of your four intake fans are very very restrictive. take a pair of tin snips and cut out those grills. then put your front panel back on. You should do this to the two back grills as wlel, but on the back you should try to make it look nice and clean cut as it will be clearly visible and the front ones will not.
This will give you a lot better airflow and cut down on the noise a bit too.
Other then what I've just said it looks pretty good.
Got any pics of your actual system? Then I could help you with maybe rearranging some components for better cooling, and also help you tidy your wires a bit, not sure what it looks like now, post some pics if you've got em :)
Good Luck

[QazQaz007]

yea my 4 fan in front are intake on the HDDs
and the 2 in the back are outgoing
the sidepanle is intake
forgot to tell you about the system blower
in the back its blowing out the back

and as for air flow i have been meaning cut those out
but all my ide cabes are rounded and out of the way
and my power and any others are in round tubeing
and out of the way

yea the ram what happened there is i ran out
money
but i did get my videocard when i came out
for $375.00 :D
i was happy, full box and all made by ati to
brand new

sorry no pics just have to use your mind


no money for camera :lol:

[kaiweiler]

Alright, so your cooling seems to be okay
and we all know that with a cool computer, you have plenty of room for a nice OC :P
The Athlon 3000+ is a Barton Core processor, which are very good overclockers. So with a good heatsink (still not sure what one you have) you should get a hefty OC out of that chip. Especially if you are not affraid to up the voltages of your vcore (chip), vdimm (ram), and chipset (FSB).
Do you know if your multiplyer is locked or not?

[kaiweiler]

Oh and about the fan grills, here's a pic of my rear fan grills cut out.
I didn't bother to make it all perfect or anything, but you get the idea.

http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/v147/kaiweiler/fangrills.jpg

[tesco]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@21 June 2004 - 15:13
Oh and about the fan grills, here's a pic of my rear fan grills cut out.
I didn't bother to make it all perfect or anything, but you get the idea.

http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/v147/kaiweiler/fangrills.jpg
I did that to my front fan grill on my case, and it's really sharp how it is now. Luckily I have the front of the case covering it. Is yours sharp? might be a good idea to put a fan grill on (the wire ones that don't really reduce airflow),

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@21 June 2004 - 16:21
I did that to my front fan grill on my case, and it's really sharp how it is now. Luckily I have the front of the case covering it. Is yours sharp? might be a good idea to put a fan grill on (the wire ones that don't really reduce airflow),
Mine aren't sharp, I took a big carpenter's file to them to take off the sharp edge.
and I don't wanna put on the wire grills, there's not really any point.
I know my fans are open back there, and I'm the only one that has access to my computer, so as long as I know their there, I'm safe :P

[tesco]

Originally posted by kaiweiler+21 June 2004 - 15:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler @ 21 June 2004 - 15:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@21 June 2004 - 16:21
I did that to my front fan grill on my case, and it&#39;s really sharp how it is now. Luckily I have the front of the case covering it. Is yours sharp? might be a good idea to put a fan grill on (the wire ones that don&#39;t really reduce airflow),
Mine aren&#39;t sharp, I took a big carpenter&#39;s file to them to take off the sharp edge.
and I don&#39;t wanna put on the wire grills, there&#39;s not really any point.
I know my fans are open back there, and I&#39;m the only one that has access to my computer, so as long as I know their there, I&#39;m safe :P [/b][/quote]
LOL, That works too.

I hate when i put my finger in teh fan, it hurts :( :lol:

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+21 June 2004 - 16:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 21 June 2004 - 16:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kaiweiler@21 June 2004 - 15:38
<!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@21 June 2004 - 16:21
I did that to my front fan grill on my case, and it&#39;s really sharp how it is now. Luckily I have the front of the case covering it. Is yours sharp? might be a good idea to put a fan grill on (the wire ones that don&#39;t really reduce airflow),
Mine aren&#39;t sharp, I took a big carpenter&#39;s file to them to take off the sharp edge.
and I don&#39;t wanna put on the wire grills, there&#39;s not really any point.
I know my fans are open back there, and I&#39;m the only one that has access to my computer, so as long as I know their there, I&#39;m safe :P
LOL, That works too.

I hate when i put my finger in teh fan, it hurts :( :lol: [/b][/quote]
Just be happy you don&#39;t have a Delta or a Tornado or anything in there&#33; They can actually cause some serious damage&#33;

[tesco]

Originally posted by kaiweiler+21 June 2004 - 15:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler @ 21 June 2004 - 15:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@21 June 2004 - 16:40

Originally posted by kaiweiler@21 June 2004 - 15:38
<!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@21 June 2004 - 16:21
I did that to my front fan grill on my case, and it&#39;s really sharp how it is now. Luckily I have the front of the case covering it. Is yours sharp? might be a good idea to put a fan grill on (the wire ones that don&#39;t really reduce airflow),
Mine aren&#39;t sharp, I took a big carpenter&#39;s file to them to take off the sharp edge.
and I don&#39;t wanna put on the wire grills, there&#39;s not really any point.
I know my fans are open back there, and I&#39;m the only one that has access to my computer, so as long as I know their there, I&#39;m safe :P
LOL, That works too.

I hate when i put my finger in teh fan, it hurts :( :lol:
Just be happy you don&#39;t have a Delta or a Tornado or anything in there&#33; They can actually cause some serious damage&#33; [/b][/quote]
:lol: well, mine just cut my finger, i guess i should be happy that was all lol.

[QazQaz007]

speed wise im happy i dont have a need to oc
but maybe later when its isnt such a good comp
i was planing on throwing in about a gig of ram
ddr something fast
know of any?

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by QazQaz007@21 June 2004 - 19:31
speed wise im happy i dont have a need to oc
but maybe later when its isnt such a good comp
i was planing on throwing in about a gig of ram
ddr something fast
know of any?
You might wanna have a look at Lamsey&#39;s RAM Guide, it&#39;s pinned here in hardwareworld

[QazQaz007]

saw that a long time ago just a little unclear
on some parts like my mobo suppourts ddr400
but i see ddr440 ram and thats what i want
will that work? with out oc
or do i have to oc?

[tesco]

Originally posted by QazQaz007@21 June 2004 - 20:16
saw that a long time ago just a little unclear
on some parts like my mobo suppourts ddr400
but i see ddr440 ram and thats what i want
will that work? with out oc
or do i have to oc?
ya it will work, it will just "dumb down," run at the slower speed. BUT it will be better for overclocking becuase you are guaranteed to get the FSB up to 220mhz for sure.

[QazQaz007]

so let me get this strait
i buy a gig of ddr440 ram
and my mobo only supports 400
i would only use the speed of 400
but if i oc it will do what to the fsb?

my mobo has a 400mhz fsb
and im running a amd 3000
with a 333mhz fsb

ps

havent oc before
can you tell :lol:

[tesco]

Originally posted by QazQaz007@21 June 2004 - 20:30
so let me get this strait
i buy a gig of ddr440 ram
and my mobo only supports 400
i would only use the speed of 400
but if i oc it will do what to the fsb?

my mobo has a 400mhz fsb
and im running a amd 3000
with a 333mhz fsb

ps

havent oc before
can you tell :lol:
OK:

the fsb at stock speeds of everything (cpu, ram, motherboard) will be 333mhz. If you want to OC, the multiplier is probably locked, so you are limited to FSB ocing only. To do this you just increase it from 333 to like 340 or 350 or osmething and the cpu speed will go up. You can keep doing that. You are guaranteed that the ram will be able to take speeds all teh way up to 440mhz, but the cpu and motherboard will most likely not make it this far.

[QazQaz007]

ok so if i just wanted to oc the ram
i cant do that i have to oc the fsb
witch also has the cpu and the ram
on it so it would mess with both
so to oc the ram to 440 it would
push my cpu passed the oc limit?
is that right?

[tesco]

Originally posted by QazQaz007@21 June 2004 - 20:52
ok so if i just wanted to oc the ram
i cant do that i have to oc the fsb
witch also has the cpu and the ram
on it so it would mess with both
so to oc the ram to 440 it would
push my cpu passed the oc limit?
is that right?
yes, you can also change some ratios or something like that which makes the ram run faster than the fsb of the cpu, not sure how it works but people say it doesn&#39;t affect teh speed at all anyway, sometimes it is worse. :unsure:

[QazQaz007]

so most likely my best beat would be
to just get some ddr400 ram?
and if i was to oc get ddr420 or
somthing like that?
so that way i can oc to max out the
ram and cpu to a safe level