What Is A "server"?

[clocker]

My brother has recently commissioned me to build two servers for his businesses.

Outside of the OS, I'm not too clear what actually defines a "server" configuration.

I know we will be using a mirrored RAID configuration for data security, probably SATA...less expensive than SCSI, and a hot-swappable drive for nightly backups ( gets removed and locked in a fireproof safe each night).

Obviously, high end video/sound are unnecessary.

From what I can tell, CPU speed is really not as critical as mega-memory capacity.

These are not big businesses and I believe that the main use is to host files for the office...I don't think a website is involved.
I'll know more after this weekend, but I'd like to go into the meeting with a bit more knowlege so I don't appear to be the dunderhead that I actually am.

Any info/ideas?

[peat moss]

*PDC (Primary Domain Controller)
These servers are the bosses of 1 or more servers. All usernames and passwords are kept on the PDC.

*BDC (Backup Domain Controller)
These servers are the backups which take over if the PDC fails. They keep a copy of the Usernames and Passwords to validate logons incase the PDC is busy.

*Server
These servers are just ordinary servers that can join a domain but do can not replace a PDC like a BDC. These servers usually are setup to just share files or printers.

Print Server
These servers are usually assigned network printers to share and maintain.

File Servers
These servers have folders/directories shared for access by network users.

Application Servers
These servers have programs that are shared across the network to multiple computers.

*A server can only be one of these but can be any combination of file, print, and application server.

[tesco]

Originally posted by peat moss@24 June 2004 - 08:38
*PDC (Primary Domain Controller)
These servers are the bosses of 1 or more servers. All usernames and passwords are kept on the PDC.

*BDC (Backup Domain Controller)
These servers are the backups which take over if the PDC fails. They keep a copy of the Usernames and Passwords to validate logons incase the PDC is busy.

*Server
These servers are just ordinary servers that can join a domain but do can not replace a PDC like a BDC. These servers usually are setup to just share files or printers.

Print Server
These servers are usually assigned network printers to share and maintain.

File Servers
These servers have folders/directories shared for access by network users.

Application Servers
These servers have programs that are shared across the network to multiple computers.

*A server can only be one of these but can be any combination of file, print, and application server.
Ha, schools around here are so rich, we have like 6 rooms of computers, plus the library and office, and each one "computer lab" area has it's own 3 or 4 servers, all ocnnected in the end buy a central (?) server hosting an 8mbit DSL connection.

:o

any, clocker, to answer your question, your probably just gonna be using regular pc components, plus sata\raid controllers, a few network adaptors im guessing, and the removable hard drive tray. Install windows server 2003 on it, i supppose, or linux for stabliity. Are you doing just hardware or software as well?

[peat moss]

Clocker, where I work its a small company with 10 office works . About half are using WISE terminal 's for print shareing between four Dot matrix printers. They run redhat I belive. I'll ask more today .

[tesco]

Originally posted by peat moss@24 June 2004 - 08:52
Clocker, where I work its a small company with 10 office works . About half are using WISE terminal 's for print shareing between four Dot matrix printers. They run redhat I belive. I'll ask more today .
Is dot matrix those giant big printers that print like 500pages in one sitting, sometimes more...?

or are they the ones that are really squeeky and use ribbon cartridges? usually black and white...?

[peat moss]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+24 June 2004 - 05:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 24 June 2004 - 05:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-peat moss@24 June 2004 - 08:52
Clocker, where I work its a small company with 10 office works . About half are using WISE terminal &#39;s for print shareing between four Dot matrix printers.&nbsp; They&nbsp; run redhat&nbsp; I belive.&nbsp; I&#39;ll ask more today .
Is dot matrix those giant big printers that print like 500pages in one sitting, sometimes more...?

or are they the ones that are really squeeky and use ribbon cartridges? usually black and white...? [/b][/quote]
Yep :lol: and run all nite .

[Virtualbody1234]

I don&#39;t think you should have any worries, clocker. I&#39;m sure your knowledge base is suifficiant for you to shine.

If that isn&#39;t enough then just fake it. :01:

[peat moss]

@clocker, What ever you do don&#39;t volunter to do tec. support . Set it up and run. :)

[tesco]

Originally posted by peat moss+24 June 2004 - 09:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peat moss @ 24 June 2004 - 09:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@24 June 2004 - 05:58
<!--QuoteBegin-peat moss@24 June 2004 - 08:52
Clocker, where I work its a small company with 10 office works . About half are using WISE terminal &#39;s for print shareing between four Dot matrix printers.&nbsp; They&nbsp; run redhat&nbsp; I belive.&nbsp; I&#39;ll ask more today .
Is dot matrix those giant big printers that print like 500pages in one sitting, sometimes more...?

or are they the ones that are really squeeky and use ribbon cartridges? usually black and white...?
Yep :lol: and run all nite . [/b][/quote]
So it is the small ones with ribbons?

ok. :rolleyes:

consider upgrading..maybe to a laser printer? the HP Laserjet&#39;s are fast :)

[peat moss]

@rossco dot printers last for years tho, not that big. In an office setting you need multiple copies , like two or three part paper. Runs on a track. Ribbions last for months. So its cheaper &#33; Sorry I have to run ,I&#39;ll be late for work. :lol:

[tesco]

Originally posted by peat moss@24 June 2004 - 09:13
@rossco dot printers last for years tho, not that big. In an office setting you need multiple copies , like two or three part paper. Runs on a track. Ribbions last for months. So its cheaper &#33; Sorry I have to run ,I&#39;ll be late for work. :lol:
oh, ok, didn&#39;t know it goes to more than one page at a time, that&#39;s kool. lol.

[lynx]

Usually, the main thing to consider is that servers run 24/7. I think we are used to that here, but of course they have to be ultra reliable. Getting a higher spec processor and underclocking might be a good idea. And of course high disk activity is likely, so good disk cooling is a must.

Next is security. How secure do these servers need to be?

Many small offices don&#39;t actually need true domain servers, since everyone in the office needs access at all times in any case. You need to consider whether this is true for your brother&#39;s business. In any case, it depends to a small extent on what software is running on other pc&#39;s around the business.

If you decide that you do need the beefed up security, I&#39;m assuming you will install Windows Server 2003. In that case you will have 2 domain controllers, peat moss is a little out of date with the PDC and BDC concept, that went out with NT4. Domain controllers now all have equal priority, which makes management a whole lot easier.

Finally, you need to consider load balancing. Apart from security, there is absolutely no point in having 2 servers with only one doing all the work. You can get software which will do this automatically, but it is expensive and not easy to set up. On the other hand it makes backup much easier, and recovery from a failure situation is usually automatic.

[clocker]

Thanks folks.

We will definitely be running Windows Server 2003.
I&#39;m not at all worried about the software...my brother has been writing code for nearly 20 years, he will teach me a lot, no doubt.

No worries about tech support either.
Both machines will be going to California...one may soon move on to China.
Actually, I wouldn&#39;t mind a service call to China. :P