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aizlumzan
07-04-2004, 02:40 PM
which version is good for what kind of users?

AndrewBarker
07-04-2004, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by aizlumzan@4 July 2004 - 14:48
which version is good for what kind of users?
The best version for ALL types of users is XP Pro Corporate

The Corporate version just means that it doesn't need activating, you just need a valid key

emule verified link here
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showt...dpost&p=1022811 (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=26555&view=findpost&p=1022811)

if you only use kazaa or similar then you will find the link on page 1 of the above link (I don't recommend using this though, due to the high level of corruption on the kazaa network)

SingaBoiy
07-04-2004, 04:38 PM
I just got Media Center Edition. Looks good. Just about the same as others. Wish I had the money to buy the remote for it. Got a tv tuner though. B)

tesco
07-04-2004, 05:10 PM
XP Home is good for people with 56k who can't download shit and have to buuy something cheap.

XP Pro is good for people in small businesses who obviously can't use illegal software...

XP Corp is good for file sharers and large businesses.


Any time you are gonna download XP then get CORP. ;)

haha21
07-04-2004, 07:02 PM
Well I have XP PRO 2002 version...

DanB
07-04-2004, 07:06 PM
I have XP Pro Corporate :rolleyes:

chinook_apache
07-04-2004, 08:43 PM
im an xp corp user with sp2 installed.
you really should get the corp, because no registration!

clocker
07-04-2004, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@4 July 2004 - 10:18
XP Home is good for people with 56k who can't download shit and have to buuy something cheap.

XP Pro is good for people in small businesses who obviously can't use illegal software...

XP Corp is good for file sharers and large businesses.


Any time you are gonna download XP then get CORP. ;)
I don't believe that there is ANY difference between Pro and Corp other then the activation.
You can install Pro with a corp key and eliminate the activation, too.

abu_has_the_power
07-04-2004, 09:45 PM
xp pro corp is the easiest and most reliable. plus, most come with sp1 integrated, if not, u can do it urself, like wat i did. works great.

clocker
07-04-2004, 09:54 PM
Just so we have our terminology correct, here are the versions of XP that MS sells:

Windows XP Editions
Home Edition/Professional/Media Center Edition/Tablet PC Edition/64-Bit Edition

Any other names are made up by someone else.

aizlumzan
07-04-2004, 10:09 PM
well, i downloaded pro edition from BT yesterday. should've asked before i downloaded. havent installed yet though. what is about the activation? I have XP pro i bought 2 years ago. never needed to activate with that one.

Tormentor
07-04-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by aizlumzan@4 July 2004 - 15:17
well, i downloaded pro edition from BT yesterday. should've asked before i downloaded. havent installed yet though. what is about the activation? I have XP pro i bought 2 years ago. never needed to activate with that one.
Pro dosnt need an activation.

clocker
07-04-2004, 10:16 PM
After you install you have thirty days to "activate " with MS.
It takes but a sec ( and an internet connection, of course) and I assume that they are checking the validity of your key.
If you don't activate, on the thirtieth day you can't boot into the desktop, instead you get a message telling you to activate.

Edit:

Pro dosnt need an activation.

It most assuredly DOES.
If you happen to have a Corporate key, then it does not, but a pro key with a Pro installation DOES NEED ACTIVATION.

Robert00000
07-05-2004, 12:13 AM
Let me clarify all of the above regarding Pro and Corp. There is no difference between Pro and Corp other than the activation (as someone has already mentioned), even if you have a CORP installed it will say XP Pro.

You CANNOT use Xp Corp keys on a PRO unless you change certain files on the disk. People make the common mistake of confusing CORP for PRO because they both look EXACTLY the same.

The version aizlumzan downloaded 2 years ago is XP Corp and not Pro, even though it says XP Professional.

XP Corp was developed to save large companies with hundreds of pc's the trouble of activating them all.

Ariel_001
07-05-2004, 04:52 AM
Windows XP: Microsoft Product Activation (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/xpactiv.mspx#XSLTsection122121120120)


Product Activation and volume licenses
Windows XP upgrade licenses acquired through one of Microsoft's volume licensing agreements, such as Microsoft Open License, Enterprise Agreement, or Select License, will not require activation. Installations of Windows XP made using volume licensing media and volume license product keys (VLKs) will have no activation, hardware checking, or limitations on installation or imaging.


Beware of blacklisted VLKs. They will prevent you from updating. Use The Blue list keygen.

phAnt0m buRn
07-05-2004, 12:38 PM
What about WinXP Media Centre Edition? Is that worth downloading over the other lot?

clocker
07-05-2004, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Robert00000@4 July 2004 - 17:21


You CANNOT use Xp Corp keys on a PRO unless you change certain files on the disk. People make the common mistake of confusing CORP for PRO because they both look EXACTLY the same.


That is funny because I have done it at least 5 different times and it worked for me.

Using a real live MS disk titled "Microsoft XP Professional" and using Corp keys from the Blue Key gen, I have installed and avoided activation without changing any files on the disk.

How certain are you of your information?

Robert00000
07-05-2004, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by clocker+5 July 2004 - 12:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker &#064; 5 July 2004 - 12:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@4 July 2004 - 17:21


You CANNOT use Xp Corp keys on a PRO unless you change certain files on the disk. People make the common mistake of confusing CORP for PRO because they both look EXACTLY the same.


That is funny because I have done it at least 5 different times and it worked for me.

Using a real live MS disk titled "Microsoft XP Professional" and using Corp keys from the Blue Key gen, I have installed and avoided activation without changing any files on the disk.

How certain are you of your information? [/b][/quote]
Let me reiterate. There is no difference between PRO and CORP in appearance. How do you know its not a CORP? A Corp disk is titled as XP Professional, because its essentially a volume licenced version of PRO. The only difference is it doesnt need activation.

And guess what? I have Pro, Corp, Home, and Home OEM version of XP. All but the corp are legit. I&#39;ve tried using keys for different versions on other disks and they don&#39;t work.

clocker
07-05-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 09:44

Let me reiterate. There is no difference between PRO and CORP in appearance. How do you know its not a CORP? A Corp disk is titled as XP Professional, because its essentially a volume licenced version of PRO.
Um, because it is sold as a single user "student" version at the U of Iowa student bookstore?
How likely is it that they are selling "Corp" versions by mistake?

Just for grins, I generated a corporate key and installed using that instead of the key that was on the sleeve.
Worked fine and no activation.

Since then I have duplicated this on several other PCs.

Oh well, I am hardly an expert on MS products, just reporting what I have found to work.

XxKrNxStyLeZxX
07-05-2004, 04:54 PM
hrm...i have xp home and pro (the actually bought versions)...im building a new computer...can i use the pro(or the home) and just change the key or something? or do i have to download the corp edition in order to be able to update? and will i be able to install the corp edition the first time i boot the computer up?

oh and is sp2 out already? im seeing corp versions with sp2 and i thought it wasnt out yet...hmmm

gildan2020
07-05-2004, 05:31 PM
if u have bought them, why would u wanna change the keys anyway?
u are fine with everything, from update to upgrade


and SP2 is NOT OFFICIALLY OUT YET. wat u are seeing is the Release Candidate which is just a stable beta release (and this message goes to everyone who is thinking bout asking the same question, argghh i can&#39;t take this anymore)


gildan2020

XxKrNxStyLeZxX
07-05-2004, 07:37 PM
because i already used these 2 cds on different computers...and activated them....so if i download xp corp from suprnova will i be able to start up my computer with it? the first time

tesco
07-05-2004, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by XxKrNxStyLeZxX@5 July 2004 - 14:45
because i already used these 2 cds on different computers...and activated them....so if i download xp corp from suprnova will i be able to start up my computer with it? the first time
You&#39;ll be able to use it anyway, but ok if u want just download corp.

yes you will be able to start up with it.

clocker
07-05-2004, 11:08 PM
Would some please mind posting a pic or a link or anything official that shows a version of XP that is labeled "Corporate"?

Robert00000
07-05-2004, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by clocker+5 July 2004 - 17:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 5 July 2004 - 17:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 09:44

Let me reiterate. There is no difference between PRO and CORP in appearance. How do you know its not a CORP?&nbsp; A Corp disk is titled as XP Professional, because its essentially a volume licenced version of PRO.
Um, because it is sold as a single user "student" version at the U of Iowa student bookstore?
How likely is it that they are selling "Corp" versions by mistake?

Just for grins, I generated a corporate key and installed using that instead of the key that was on the sleeve.
Worked fine and no activation.

Since then I have duplicated this on several other PCs.

Oh well, I am hardly an expert on MS products, just reporting what I have found to work. [/b][/quote]
When we say Pro we refer to the standard versions (retail and OEM), which are the proper Pro.

Your copy was obtained under the Educational License, and differs from normal Pro version.

The version you have isn&#39;t a Pro version, it may say its a Pro, but so does a Corp. When we use Pro and Corp we differentiate between the different activation systems employed.

The version you have is exactly the same in function as the Corp version and would be refered to as Corp version. Corp version isn&#39;t just for corporations, they are used by educational establishments and government bodies.

If it can use Corp keys then it has the same files as the Corp version that don&#39;t need activation.

The difference between a Pro and Corp version of XP is about 17 Meg of files. You can download these files from the net to turn a Pro into a Corp.

Robert00000
07-05-2004, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by clocker@5 July 2004 - 23:16
Would some please mind posting a pic or a link or anything official that shows a version of XP that is labeled "Corporate"?
?????? :o

Read my posts again. :blink:

clocker
07-06-2004, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 16:36
When we use Pro and Corp we differentiate between the different activation systems employed.


Who is "we"?

Robert00000
07-06-2004, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by clocker+6 July 2004 - 02:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 6 July 2004 - 02:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 16:36
When we use Pro and Corp we differentiate between the different activation systems employed.


Who is "we"? [/b][/quote]
Those of us in the know ;) It&#39;s how we differentiate between the different versions of Pro, otherwise it would be confusing.

manker
07-06-2004, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by clocker+6 July 2004 - 02:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker &#064; 6 July 2004 - 02:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 16:36
When we use Pro and Corp we differentiate between the different activation systems employed.


Who is "we"? [/b][/quote]
Poor guy&#39;s watched lotr too many times now, he thinks he&#39;s gollum.

http://refugio.f2o.org/archivos/imagenes/gollum.jpg

we will have the precious, give it to us&#33; give it to us&#33;&#33; :lol:

clocker
07-06-2004, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Robert00000@6 July 2004 - 03:15




Who is "we"?
Those of us in the know ;) It&#39;s how we differentiate between the different versions of Pro, otherwise it would be confusing.
There you go with the "we" thing again.
Are "we" some sort of secret society, like the Masons or the Justin Timberlake Fan Club?

Back on topic....
Am I safe in saying that functionally there are only TWO versions of XP- Home and Pro?

Chewie
07-06-2004, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 23:36
The difference between a Pro and Corp version of XP is about 17 Meg of files. You can download these files from the net to turn a Pro into a Corp.
I thought you said that the only difference between Pro and Pro Corp was the activation files? 17MB is fucking huge for just that.

In any case, I have a friend that bought XP Pro and installed it where he worked using generated Corp keys, so if it&#39;s not the actual keys that are different but the activation files themselves, why did neither installation need to be activated? His wasn&#39;t a &#39;student&#39;, &#39;library&#39;, government&#39;, &#39;SAS&#39; or anything other than a PC World purchased copy.

Similarly, if one can&#39;t use a VLK on &#39;ordinary&#39; Pro because the activation files are different, by the same token one could not use an ordinary Pro key on the Corp version, otherwise it&#39;d be pointless to put out two different versions.
If this is the case then we have many people hallucinating SP2 activation problems... which surely can&#39;t happen because the activation files don&#39;t actually activate on the Corp version, do they?

Chewie
07-06-2004, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by clocker@5 July 2004 - 12:54
Using a real live MS disk titled "Microsoft XP Professional" and using Corp keys from the Blue Key gen, I have installed and avoided activation without changing any files on the disk.
Be wary of BL generated keys, clocker, cuz M&#036; are believed to have coded into SP2 detection for them.
Google for XP SP2 640 for more.

XxKrNxStyLeZxX
07-06-2004, 05:20 PM
so is there a keygen that wont get detected?

tesco
07-06-2004, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Chewie UK@6 July 2004 - 11:24
Google for XP SP2 640 for more.
I find a bunch of different reviews on SP2 and on logitech z-640&#39;s lol.


What were we meant to see?

clocker
07-06-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Chewie UK@6 July 2004 - 09:24

Be wary of BL generated keys, clocker, cuz M&#036; are believed to have coded into SP2 detection for them.
Google for XP SP2 640 for more.
Really?

O, those crafty devils in Redmond&#33;
T&#39;will be irrelevant to me as I shall be running a completely legal version of Server 2003 by then anyway.
Not to mention, my XP Pro "student edition" is valid, too.

But I may just start using MS BOB and avoid the problem altogether.

Robert00000
07-06-2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by clocker@6 July 2004 - 13:21
There you go with the "we" thing again.
Are "we" some sort of secret society, like the Masons or the Justin Timberlake Fan Club?

Yep, thats what &#39;we&#39; are, how did you know. Have you been following us ? :o


As for the two versions, there is only one verion of HOME if we exclude the OEM version. There is an OEM version of Pro too. OEM&#39;s are pre-activated, so don&#39;t need activation on the machine it was intended for.

Robert00000
07-06-2004, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Chewie UK+6 July 2004 - 16:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chewie UK &#064; 6 July 2004 - 16:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 23:36
The difference between a Pro and Corp version of XP is about 17 Meg of files. You can download these files from the net to turn a Pro into a Corp.
I thought you said that the only difference between Pro and Pro Corp was the activation files? 17MB is fucking huge for just that.

In any case, I have a friend that bought XP Pro and installed it where he worked using generated Corp keys, so if it&#39;s not the actual keys that are different but the activation files themselves, why did neither installation need to be activated? His wasn&#39;t a &#39;student&#39;, &#39;library&#39;, government&#39;, &#39;SAS&#39; or anything other than a PC World purchased copy.

Similarly, if one can&#39;t use a VLK on &#39;ordinary&#39; Pro because the activation files are different, by the same token one could not use an ordinary Pro key on the Corp version, otherwise it&#39;d be pointless to put out two different versions.
If this is the case then we have many people hallucinating SP2 activation problems... which surely can&#39;t happen because the activation files don&#39;t actually activate on the Corp version, do they? [/b][/quote]
The hot weather is boiling my brain and this topic is draggin on too long. I&#39;ve got two businesses to run so give me a break :wacko:

I&#39;ll answer only a couple more questions after this and thats it, you will have to do research to find the answers.

re - Activation files, if it were as simple as one or two files needing replacment then people would be able to pir@te XP with ease. The download of files to convert a Pro to a Corp is 17 Meg in size. These files over lap the code for Pro, so most of it doesn t relate to the activation.

re - Installation of Pro by your friend. Was it a retail version? If so it would raise questions about the recent versions of pro. Releases of software always change as do their tactics to prevent pir@cy.


By the way the versions of XP i use are legit :D just in case there are spies here :lol:

XxKrNxStyLeZxX
07-06-2004, 10:27 PM
wait so whats the answer to this thread?? because I dl&#39;ed the corp version and already have a storebought XP PRO ( need keygen or crack to use it again tho)...im wondering if i should install the corp, or install the retail version but use the blue list keygen or that other crack

Chewie
07-06-2004, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by XxKrNxStyLeZxX@6 July 2004 - 22:35
wait so whats the answer to this thread?? because I dl&#39;ed the corp version and already have a storebought XP PRO ( need keygen or crack to use it again tho)...im wondering if i should install the corp, or install the retail version but use the blue list keygen or that other crack
Install your store bought XP Pro with a generated key.
WTH, if we&#39;re (excepting Robert) all wrong you&#39;ve only wasted an hour anyway.

Chewie
07-06-2004, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Robert00000+6 July 2004 - 20:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Robert00000 @ 6 July 2004 - 20:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Chewie UK@6 July 2004 - 16:18
<!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 23:36
The difference between a Pro and Corp version of XP is about 17 Meg of files. You can download these files from the net to turn a Pro into a Corp.
I thought you said that the only difference between Pro and Pro Corp was the activation files? 17MB is fucking huge for just that.

In any case, I have a friend that bought XP Pro and installed it where he worked using generated Corp keys, so if it&#39;s not the actual keys that are different but the activation files themselves, why did neither installation need to be activated? His wasn&#39;t a &#39;student&#39;, &#39;library&#39;, government&#39;, &#39;SAS&#39; or anything other than a PC World purchased copy.

Similarly, if one can&#39;t use a VLK on &#39;ordinary&#39; Pro because the activation files are different, by the same token one could not use an ordinary Pro key on the Corp version, otherwise it&#39;d be pointless to put out two different versions.
If this is the case then we have many people hallucinating SP2 activation problems... which surely can&#39;t happen because the activation files don&#39;t actually activate on the Corp version, do they?
The hot weather is boiling my brain and this topic is draggin on too long. I&#39;ve got two businesses to run so give me a break :wacko:

I&#39;ll answer only a couple more questions after this and thats it, you will have to do research to find the answers.

re - Activation files, if it were as simple as one or two files needing replacment then people would be able to pir@te XP with ease. The download of files to convert a Pro to a Corp is 17 Meg in size. These files over lap the code for Pro, so most of it doesn t relate to the activation.

re - Installation of Pro by your friend. Was it a retail version? If so it would raise questions about the recent versions of pro. Releases of software always change as do their tactics to prevent pir@cy.


By the way the versions of XP i use are legit :D just in case there are spies here :lol: [/b][/quote]
Only answer a couple more questions? Shit, I&#39;d be happy if you answered just one of mine. Should be simple for those in the &#39;know&#39;.

Raising questions about recent versions, PC World don&#39;t do anything other than retail, and my friend paid about £170 shortly after its release.

Ariel_001
07-07-2004, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Chewie UK+6 July 2004 - 19:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chewie UK @ 6 July 2004 - 19:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-XxKrNxStyLeZxX@6 July 2004 - 22:35
wait so whats the answer to this thread?? because I dl&#39;ed the corp version and already have a storebought XP PRO ( need keygen or crack to use it again tho)...im wondering if i should install the corp, or install the retail version but use the blue list keygen or that other crack
Install your store bought XP Pro with a generated key.
WTH, if we&#39;re (excepting Robert) all wrong you&#39;ve only wasted an hour anyway. [/b][/quote]
Can you post here if the generated key works?

orcutt989
07-07-2004, 01:46 AM
What is the big deal about not registering with MS. I dont understand, why should he use a generated key when there is one already on the box. Is this just so he can put it on multiple computers? I read a thread before about how it makes no difference if you register with MS or not, because their isnt a risk and they can&#39;t get any information from you anways.






Originally Posted by SequimPC
Hi, I am a minister, and our church would like to evaluate xp corporate edition for our church
I have talked with m&#036; about obtaining a preview copy but they will only point me to a reseller. Since I am not willing to shell out the
money for copies of the software licenses for 21 machines even with the discount for npo and volume licensing we do not want to purchase all the copies up front without first trying it with our network and seeing if our resident tech feels the need to use this OS. In any wize I would like someone to email me with a place I can obtain a corporate cd, as our headquarters has a vlk I can use legally but the actuall cd to install it with is not in our possesion. Please help point me to a location of an iso or other way to obtain the disk. I can slipstream the SP2 RC2 into it once I have it, so that is not neccesary and we have full intention on purchasing the software if it is worth the upgrade. I just want to make sure we are not better off upgrading all our Hardware w/ oem software from dell business solutions.



HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE....damn ministers and their piracy.

manker
07-07-2004, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by orcutt989@7 July 2004 - 01:54
What is the big deal about not registering with MS. I read a thread before about how it makes no difference if you register with MS or not, because their isnt a risk and they can&#39;t get any information from you anways.
:blink:

I don&#39;t think we were talking about that so I&#39;m gonna leave that for one of robert&#39;s personalities to answer tomorrow.


I dont understand, why should he use a generated key when there is one already on the box. Is this just so he can put it on multiple computers?

yeah, if you&#39;ve bought and paid for your version then IMO it would be wise not to let your friends use the activation details too. justincase ;)




edit: just read your edit about the minister :lol: :lol: :lol: well I&#39;m also a minister and want a hacked pass to the playboy site, just so I can print out the pictures and burn them :o

Robert00000
07-07-2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Chewie UK+6 July 2004 - 23:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chewie UK @ 6 July 2004 - 23:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Robert00000@6 July 2004 - 20:37

Originally posted by Chewie UK@6 July 2004 - 16:18
<!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 23:36
The difference between a Pro and Corp version of XP is about 17 Meg of files. You can download these files from the net to turn a Pro into a Corp.
I thought you said that the only difference between Pro and Pro Corp was the activation files? 17MB is fucking huge for just that.

In any case, I have a friend that bought XP Pro and installed it where he worked using generated Corp keys, so if it&#39;s not the actual keys that are different but the activation files themselves, why did neither installation need to be activated? His wasn&#39;t a &#39;student&#39;, &#39;library&#39;, government&#39;, &#39;SAS&#39; or anything other than a PC World purchased copy.

Similarly, if one can&#39;t use a VLK on &#39;ordinary&#39; Pro because the activation files are different, by the same token one could not use an ordinary Pro key on the Corp version, otherwise it&#39;d be pointless to put out two different versions.
If this is the case then we have many people hallucinating SP2 activation problems... which surely can&#39;t happen because the activation files don&#39;t actually activate on the Corp version, do they?
The hot weather is boiling my brain and this topic is draggin on too long. I&#39;ve got two businesses to run so give me a break :wacko:

I&#39;ll answer only a couple more questions after this and thats it, you will have to do research to find the answers.

re - Activation files, if it were as simple as one or two files needing replacment then people would be able to pir@te XP with ease. The download of files to convert a Pro to a Corp is 17 Meg in size. These files over lap the code for Pro, so most of it doesn t relate to the activation.

re - Installation of Pro by your friend. Was it a retail version? If so it would raise questions about the recent versions of pro. Releases of software always change as do their tactics to prevent pir@cy.


By the way the versions of XP i use are legit :D just in case there are spies here :lol:
Only answer a couple more questions? Shit, I&#39;d be happy if you answered just one of mine. Should be simple for those in the &#39;know&#39;.

Raising questions about recent versions, PC World don&#39;t do anything other than retail, and my friend paid about £170 shortly after its release. [/b][/quote]
I suspect with recent Pro&#39;s (don&#39;t ask me how recent) microsoft may be saving money by just producing one version (Corp).

It makes economic sense as people determined to get one over M&#036; can use the keygen in any case, so why waste money producing two versions. just have two types of keys on one.

Robert00000
07-07-2004, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by orcutt989@7 July 2004 - 01:54
What is the big deal about not registering with MS.&nbsp; I dont understand, why should he use a generated key&nbsp; when there is one already on the box.&nbsp; Is this just so he can put it on multiple computers?
The reason to use a keygen is :

To install the same copy on multiple machines. All versions except Corp and OEM&#39;s require activation.

The reason to use a Corp version:

To avoid the hassle of activation, so you can use the same key on multiple machines, unless the key is blocked. The only blocked keys are the ones passed around the net.

About OEM&#39;s

Oem&#39;s don&#39;t need activation if they are used on the machine they were created for. It doesn&#39;t matter if the OEM disk is of a HOME, PRO of any other. However, as soon as you change a piece of hardware the activation request pops up.

Advice

If you own a legit version there is no need to use a keygen other than the reasons above.

Chewie
07-07-2004, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by Robert00000@7 July 2004 - 22:59
It makes economic sense as people determined to get one over M&#036; can use the keygen in any case, so why waste money producing two versions. just have two types of keys on one.
Given the reasearch that M&#036; put in on anti-piracy, it would (and does) surprise me if they didn&#39;t come to this conclusion while still developing XP.

Ariel_001
07-08-2004, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by Robert00000+7 July 2004 - 19:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Robert00000 @ 7 July 2004 - 19:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-orcutt989@7 July 2004 - 01:54
What is the big deal about not registering with MS. I dont understand, why should he use a generated key when there is one already on the box. Is this just so he can put it on multiple computers?
The reason to use a keygen is :

To install the same copy on multiple machines. All versions except Corp and OEM&#39;s require activation.

The reason to use a Corp version:

To avoid the hassle of activation, so you can use the same key on multiple machines, unless the key is blocked. The only blocked keys are the ones passed around the net.

About OEM&#39;s

Oem&#39;s don&#39;t need activation if they are used on the machine they were created for. It doesn&#39;t matter if the OEM disk is of a HOME, PRO of any other. However, as soon as you change a piece of hardware the activation request pops up.

Advice

If you own a legit version there is no need to use a keygen other than the reasons above. [/b][/quote]
I would use a keygen because I like playing around with my hardware and changing my os every couple of months.

XxKrNxStyLeZxX
07-08-2004, 03:51 AM
wait....if i use the Corp, since the key&#39;s are the same, wouldnt they block the updates or something?

Robert00000
07-08-2004, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by XxKrNxStyLeZxX@8 July 2004 - 03:59
wait....if i use the Corp, since the key&#39;s are the same, wouldnt they block the updates or something?
If it&#39;s not one of the banned keys then it will be ok. Just avoid the keys on the net.

XxKrNxStyLeZxX
07-08-2004, 03:05 PM
what about the key that came with the corp (info in the notepad)...wouldnt that be considered from the net?

Robert00000
07-08-2004, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by XxKrNxStyLeZxX@8 July 2004 - 15:13
what about the key that came with the corp (info in the notepad)...wouldnt that be considered from the net?
yep, don&#39;t use it.

XxKrNxStyLeZxX
07-08-2004, 08:10 PM
um....so where would i get another one thats not on the net

tesco
07-08-2004, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by XxKrNxStyLeZxX@8 July 2004 - 15:18
um....so where would i get another one thats not on the net
I&#39;ll pm you the one i use, works so far for all updates i have done...(including the beta sp2, not sure yet if it will work in the final release though)