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{SHELL%SHOCKED}
07-06-2004, 05:12 AM
Poll: over 40% of Canadian teens think America is "evil"
by Arthur Weinreb

June 30, 2004

Can West News Services, owners of several Canadian newspapers including the National Post as well as the Global Television Network commissioned a series of polls to determine how young people feel about the issues that were facing the country’s voters. Dubbed "Youth Vote 2004", the polls, sponsored by the Dominion Institute and Navigator Ltd. were taken with a view to getting more young people involved in the political process.

In one telephone poll of teens between the ages of 14 and 18, over 40 per cent of the respondents described the United States as being "evil". That number rose to 64 per cent for French Canadian youth.

This being Canada, the amount of anti-Americanism that was found is not surprising. What is significant is the high number of teens who used the word "evil" to describe our southern neighbour. As Misty Harris pointed out in her column in the Saskatoon Star Phoenix, evil is usually associated with serial killers and "kids who tear the legs off baby spiders." These teens appear to equate George W. Bush and Americans with Osama bin Laden and Hitler, although it is unknown if the teens polled would describe the latter two as being evil. Whether someone who orders planes to be flown into heavily populated buildings would fit that description would make a good subject for a future poll.

The Liberal government came into power in 1993 gushing anti-Americanism. Former Prime Minister Jean Chrétien’s communications director, Francoise Ducros, made headlines when she referred to President Bush as a moron. Liberal MP Carolyn Parrish was picked up on a boom microphone saying, "Damn Americans — I hate those bastards". Not only did Parrish not apologize for her remarks, but she later appeared on a television show hosted by alleged comedian Mike Bullard and laughed about the incident. Parrish played to the anti-Americanism of the youthful studio audience by saying that she couldn’t guarantee that she wouldn’t do it again.

Not only did then Prime Minister Jean Chrétien not take any action against his staff or caucus members, he himself engaged in America-bashing. The depth of his anti-Americanism surfaced shortly after the 9/11 attacks when he blamed the arrogance and greed of the West (read the United States) for those attacks.

When Paul Martin assumed office last December, the childish cheap shots ended but, if anything, anti-Americanism became stronger.

Anti-Americanism played a prominent role in the election strategy of the Liberals. Paul Martin portrayed himself as the saviour of Canadian medicare while saying that if Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party of Canada came to power they would introduce "American-style" health care. Martin was happy to take credit for cutting taxes and eliminating the deficit during the 1990s when he was Minister of Finance, but he referred to tax cuts included in the Conservative Party platform as being "American-style tax cuts". Canadians who favour lower taxes or the private delivery of health care services or smaller governments or anything similar to what is found in the United States were called "un-Canadian" by Paul Martin.

It is therefore not surprising that a high percentage of Canadian youth think that the United States is evil. Nor is it surprising that this feeling is more pronounced in Quebec where Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe said that he would rather live under the United Nations than the Stars and Stripes. The left wing Canadian political parties, aided by their supporters in the elite media don’t seem to be able to say anything positive about Canada without denigrating the United States in the process.

The poll results reflect that anti-Americanism will be solidly entrenched in future generations of Canadians. As well as listening to the propaganda espoused by their political leaders and the media, these kids have no experience with what constitutes real evil. They live in a country that much like pre-9/11 America, thinks that terrorist attacks are something that happens in other countries. And as the World War II veterans slowly die off, they have no conviction of the evil that the allies risked their lives to defeat.

With anti-Americanism playing such a prominent role in this past election campaign, it is no wonder that the United States was viewed in such a negative light.

Arthur Weinreb, a lawyer and author, is Associate Editor of Toronto Free Press and Canadafreepress.com. He can be reached at:




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Ariel_001
07-06-2004, 05:25 AM
I would not say the country just 100-150 KM away from where I am "evil". Not really. It is a cool country. Then again there are some laws and government policies/process that I hope will never happen here..

{SHELL%SHOCKED}
07-06-2004, 05:45 AM
It's kinda hard to define someone's interpretation of evil, with out them siting specific examples of evil actions.

Ariel_001
07-06-2004, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by {SHELL%SHOCKED}@6 July 2004 - 01:53
It's kinda hard to define someone's interpretation of evil, with out them siting specific examples of evil actions.
“Evil” are things that is opposite to what someone does believe in. A very universal definition in my opinion.

cpt_azad
07-06-2004, 08:29 AM
that article is like me saying "i believe george bush is the next hitler" <_< america is cool, and i for one love it and YES i&#39;m canadian. but then again, bush might turn out to be ...........lol, i&#39;m jp jp :P ,

Voetsek
07-06-2004, 09:20 AM
its all true bush is really g w a Hitler/bush a bastard son of Hitler

Biggles
07-06-2004, 07:40 PM
I rather expected this to say "is somewhere near Canada"


Oh Well&#33; :blink:

Abe
07-06-2004, 08:57 PM
Why did they do a survey on teens and not adults?

Monkster
07-07-2004, 03:38 AM
Not &#39;evil&#39; per say, &#39;disliked&#39; is more like it.

Patriotism is good, theres nothing wrong with it, but you can always have too much of a good thing. Blindly following and believing whatever your leaders say doesn&#39;t help much either.

I think (and hope) that most Americans are nice people who are innocents caught up in the steriotypes created a few in response to those Americans who are a few crayons short of a box.

And yes, I am Canadian.


Why did they do a survey on teens and not adults?
Because they are the future of Canada. They decide what happens tomorrow.

Spicker
07-07-2004, 03:42 AM
well im a teen and canadian...

and we are alwayz making fun of Bush in class and teachers do to... but we never critizice the citizens of US jus george bush :lol:

Donnie Darko
07-07-2004, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by Monkster@7 July 2004 - 03:46


Why did they do a survey on teens and not adults?
Because they are the future of Canada. They decide what happens tomorrow.
Wow they grow fast :o

j4y3m
07-07-2004, 08:28 AM
America is evil&#33; Canada is the best country in the world and you all know it&#33;

MagicNakor
07-07-2004, 09:22 AM
Much like "hate," the word "evil" has lost much of its meaning. It&#39;s fairly commonplace for people to say they "hate" something, without real regard to what a strong feeling hate is. The same has happened with evil. It&#39;s commonplace to hear "Suchandsuch is evil," as the word has become a diluted slang-version of its former self, especially amoung 14-18 year olds.

Arthur Weinreb, on the other hand, likes to put a liberal amount of conservative spin on everything he writes, right down to almost outright-lies. ;)

:ninja:

Rat Faced
07-07-2004, 05:13 PM
I think "Evil" has lost its meaning to most youth in Canada the same way that "awesome" has lost its meaning within the US youth.


It might even be a good thing, like "Wicked" :lol:

MicroScreen2
07-07-2004, 05:16 PM
how can you call a country evil? :blink:

j2k4
07-07-2004, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by {SHELL%SHOCKED}@6 July 2004 - 00:20
Poll: over 40% of Canadian teens think America is "evil"

Pikers.


Everywhere else it&#39;s at least 75-80%.

What&#39;s wrong with those Canadian kids, anyway? :P

J'Pol
07-07-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by MagicNakor@7 July 2004 - 10:30
.... likes to put a liberal amount of conservative spin on everything he writes,
I like that, a liberal amount of conservative spin.

Very nice, very nice indeed.

j2k4
07-07-2004, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+7 July 2004 - 15:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 7 July 2004 - 15:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MagicNakor@7 July 2004 - 10:30
.... likes to put a liberal amount of conservative spin on everything he writes,
I like that, a liberal amount of conservative spin.

Very nice, very nice indeed. [/b][/quote]

Agreed, certainly. ;)

Biggles
07-07-2004, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by j2k4+7 July 2004 - 20:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 7 July 2004 - 20:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-{SHELL%SHOCKED}@6 July 2004 - 00:20
Poll: over 40% of Canadian teens think America is "evil"

Pikers.


Everywhere else it&#39;s at least 75-80%.

What&#39;s wrong with those Canadian kids, anyway? :P [/b][/quote]
It is well known that Canadians are very laid back. :)

MagicNakor
07-08-2004, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by j2k4+7 July 2004 - 22:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 7 July 2004 - 22:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@7 July 2004 - 15:58
<!--QuoteBegin-MagicNakor@7 July 2004 - 10:30
.... likes to put a liberal amount of conservative spin on everything he writes,
I like that, a liberal amount of conservative spin.

Very nice, very nice indeed.

Agreed, certainly. ;) [/b][/quote]
I thought you two would. ;)

:ninja:

j2k4
07-08-2004, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by MagicNakor+7 July 2004 - 19:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MagicNakor @ 7 July 2004 - 19:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by j2k4@7 July 2004 - 22:50

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@7 July 2004 - 15:58
<!--QuoteBegin-MagicNakor@7 July 2004 - 10:30
.... likes to put a liberal amount of conservative spin on everything he writes,
I like that, a liberal amount of conservative spin.

Very nice, very nice indeed.

Agreed, certainly. ;)
I thought you two would. ;)

:ninja: [/b][/quote]
It is well to be known well. :)

cpt_azad
07-09-2004, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by j4y3m@7 July 2004 - 00:36
America is evil&#33; Canada is the best country in the world and you all know it&#33;
damn straight B) fucking bush, wait, fucking bush administration B)

cpt_azad
07-09-2004, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Biggles+7 July 2004 - 14:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Biggles @ 7 July 2004 - 14:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by j2k4@7 July 2004 - 20:47
<!--QuoteBegin-{SHELL%SHOCKED}@6 July 2004 - 00:20
Poll: over 40% of Canadian teens think America is "evil"

Pikers.


Everywhere else it&#39;s at least 75-80%.

What&#39;s wrong with those Canadian kids, anyway? :P
It is well known that Canadians are very laid back. :) [/b][/quote]
:D