Just A Thought

[kaiweiler]

Alright, I just had a thought of a new way I'm going to try to position my fans next time I get an old case to mod.
Since hot air rises, I'm thinking of having the only exhaust at the top. Possibly/probably 2x120mm blowholes one in front of the other.
Now all other fans will be intake, yet will be mounted on an angle to help the airflow rise up to the top.
Also there would bea farily large floor fan as well, probably around 92mm.
I would also mod the power supply to how the way I have mine now which is working quite well for cooling it seems. This includes switching the back exhaust PSU fan to an intake and cutting an exhaust hole in the top of the psu and in the top of the case as well. The if you have to, cover the open grill on the front of the PSU. This way the heat PSU has no affect whatsoever on your case or CPU temps.
Below is a simple MS Paint diagram to show what I mean.
http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/v147/kaiweiler/air_cooling_idea.jpg

Any opinions??
It's just something I thought of but had not yet seen done, so it may work, it may not.
Next time I get an old comp to mod, I'm definatly going to try it out.

[Storm]

nice idea, what will you be using to make the fans look upwards?

btw, doesnt the PSU just suck hot air out of the case, heat it up a lil more, and then pass it out? would save ya alot of modding ;)

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by Storm@7 July 2004 - 11:44
nice idea, what will you be using to make the fans look upwards?

btw, doesnt the PSU just suck hot air out of the case, heat it up a lil more, and then pass it out? would save ya alot of modding ;)
I did the psu mod on my current computer and it actually lowered my case temps a bit, so it's a bit better apparantly.
and for the fans looking upward you can use just about anything, you can make a small angled duct using the tops from old cd jewel cases if you'd like!

[Storm]

dont know this for sure, but is the floor fan a good idea??? wouldnt it mainly suck dust???

and will it suck in enough air if it only has 1/2" clearing of the floor?

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by Storm@7 July 2004 - 11:54
dont know this for sure, but is the floor fan a good idea??? wouldnt it mainly suck dust???

and will it suck in enough air if it only has 1/2" clearing of the floor?
IT wouldn't suck dust because I don't have my comp sitting on the floor. It is sitting up on it's own throne about 2 feet off the floor ;)
and it will get plenty of air with 1/2" feet, I've talked to many people that have tried it and it has lowed case temps significantly
any more critisism??

[Storm]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@7 July 2004 - 17:04
any more critisism??
:">

no, thats all i could think of........ go ahead an build it ;)

[lynx]

Originally posted by kaiweiler@7 July 2004 - 16:04
It is sitting up on it's own throne about 2 feet off the floor ;)
Aren't you worried it might get knocked over?

Or even blown over if those fans aren't positioned just right. :P


Seriously, I can't see what's directing air at the hd bays, I don't think air from the fan at lower front will get there. You may find that area gets a little warm (or not, time will tell). Mounting the drives directly in the airflow would probably solve that one though.

[scottwile]

Originally posted by kaiweiler+7 July 2004 - 12:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler @ 7 July 2004 - 12:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Storm@7 July 2004 - 11:54
dont know this for sure, but is the floor fan a good idea??? wouldnt it mainly suck dust???

and will it suck in enough air if it only has 1/2" clearing of the floor?
IT wouldn&#39;t suck dust because I don&#39;t have my comp sitting on the floor. It is sitting up on it&#39;s own throne about 2 feet off the floor ;)
and it will get plenty of air with 1/2" feet, I&#39;ve talked to many people that have tried it and it has lowed case temps significantly
any more critisism?? [/b][/quote]
when are u gonna spend 70-80&#036; on fans for an "old" case or move all your hardware/fans into and old case when you have a good/nice case now. its a good idea though, do it in you good computer.

[tesco]

Originally posted by scottwile+7 July 2004 - 11:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (scottwile @ 7 July 2004 - 11:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kaiweiler@7 July 2004 - 12:04
<!--QuoteBegin-Storm@7 July 2004 - 11:54
dont know this for sure, but is the floor fan a good idea??? wouldnt it mainly suck dust???

and will it suck in enough air if it only has 1/2" clearing of the floor?
IT wouldn&#39;t suck dust because I don&#39;t have my comp sitting on the floor. It is sitting up on it&#39;s own throne about 2 feet off the floor ;)
and it will get plenty of air with 1/2" feet, I&#39;ve talked to many people that have tried it and it has lowed case temps significantly
any more critisism??
when are u gonna spend 70-80&#036; on fans for an "old" case or move all your hardware/fans into and old case when you have a good/nice case now. its a good idea though, do it in you good computer. [/b][/quote]
I agree. Why would you want to do it to an old case? it&#39;s just a waste of your new case...

seems like a good idea though ;) pretty close to how i have mine setup right now...except i have a few less fans. ;)

[clocker]

I would skip the floor fan and the lower front intake.

Two good 120mm fans in the roof will find a place to pull air from, you don&#39;t need to help them.

Bump the two rear intakes up to 92mm (120mm if possible)...more air at lower speeds= less noise.

I like the PSU mod...I&#39;ve done it myself and it does work.

I don&#39;t think you need to worry too much about angling the fans up, but you can use the Thermaltake ducts to achieve that if you must.
Unfortunately, they only take an 80mm fan, and I don&#39;t like to use small fans anymore if I can help it.

[Spicker]

also i just noticed that the lower left fan will block pci ports.... <_<

[tesco]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@7 July 2004 - 13:46
also i just noticed that the lower left fan will block pci ports.... <_<
who needs PCI ports?

[Spicker]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+7 July 2004 - 20:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 7 July 2004 - 20:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jaigandhi5@7 July 2004 - 13:46
also i just noticed that the lower left fan will block pci ports....&nbsp; <_<
who needs PCI ports? [/b][/quote]
for a TV tuner and if u dont hav IEE ports u cud add pci slot thingy which gives u the IEE port also if u dont hav a router and wana share internet u need another network card...

lots of uses for the pci slots ;) :P

[tesco]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5+7 July 2004 - 14:17--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jaigandhi5 @ 7 July 2004 - 14:17)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@7 July 2004 - 20:04
<!--QuoteBegin-jaigandhi5@7 July 2004 - 13:46
also i just noticed that the lower left fan will block pci ports....&nbsp; <_<
who needs PCI ports?
for a TV tuner and if u dont hav IEE ports u cud add pci slot thingy which gives u the IEE port also if u dont hav a router and wana share internet u need another network card...

lots of uses for the pci slots ;) :P [/b][/quote]
lol, with normal use of the computer they aren&#39;t needed (with the latest motherboards, they have onboard everything...).

besides, all the things you mentioned come in a USB vesion as well (well, maybe not firewire...)

[Spicker]

yes but the usb version&#39;s are always highly priced than the PCI ones... and us cheap ppl wont get expenive stuff....

so u need atleast 1 PCI slot because i always wanted to have a TV Tuner ;) they are soo k00L :rolleyes:

[Storm]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@7 July 2004 - 20:37
so u need atleast 1 PCI slot because i always wanted to have a TV Tuner ;) they are soo k00L :rolleyes:
funny how alot of people want a TV out to watch movies on their TV, and a TVtuner to watch programs on their PC...........

and you might want an.......... euhhhmmmm dialup modem?

wait: a good 5.1 sound card&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; (of course that still leaves you with 4 slots open.........

[tesco]

Originally posted by Storm@7 July 2004 - 18:22
wait: a good 5.1 sound card&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; (of course that still leaves you with 4 slots open.........
Good motherboards these days have 5.1&#092;6channel sound onboard. :P
And TV-out is on your video card. ;)

[kaiweiler]

Exactly, My motherboard has excellent 6 channel sounds onboard, so no sound card is necessary.
And I am using absolutly no PCI slots, so there&#39;s plenty of room there

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+7 July 2004 - 13:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 7 July 2004 - 13:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jaigandhi5@7 July 2004 - 13:46
also i just noticed that the lower left fan will block pci ports....&nbsp; <_<
who needs PCI ports? [/b][/quote]
Not me lolol

Sounds like a good idea, but those thermaltake ducts are kinda exspensive...but you can find fans for pretty cheap.

[harrycary]

while improving your cooling in a PC can be beneficial, what you are attempting is a complete exercise in futility.

i mean, you will be putting yourself way past the point of diminishing returns.

believe me the performance gains to be had are negligible at best and more than likely not noticeable in everyday use.

but, if you&#39;ve got the time and money, knock yourself out.

peace,

[scottwile]

Originally posted by harrycary@7 July 2004 - 20:33
while improving your cooling in a PC can be beneficial, what you are attempting is a complete exercise in futility.

i mean, you will be putting yourself way past the point of diminishing returns.

believe me the performance gains to be had are negligible at best and more than likey not noticeable in everyday use.

but, if you&#39;ve got the time and money, knock yourself out.

peace,
alot of what computer modding people do is pretty much unnoticeable, i have a 2800 barton, stock speed is 2.08Ghz and when i have it at 2.3Ghz i see slim to no difference in speed. Even if it had a noticeable difference it&#39;s would only be a quarter of a secound or something Irrelevant or negligible. I agree with harrycarry. I&#39;m just trying to say that 1.8Ghz will do what you need but its fun for some to spend lots of time and money to get 2.35 Ghz or 4.23Ghz even though its differences are Insignificant. ;)
For kai he enjoys it but will have 2 quit modding and smoking for he has too save his money and buy a car.

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by scottwile@7 July 2004 - 22:52
For kai he enjoys it but will have 2 quit modding and smoking for he has too save his money and buy a car.
:lol:
So sad, yet so true....
I might give the above plan a try in my current case. Then I wouldn&#39;t have to by a new case, any more fans or anything. And I can easily construct the ducts out of household items. So there would be no extra cost at all.