Artifacts Problem

[abu_has_the_power]

i'm using omega 2.5.51 (newest) drivers. and i'm just doing stuff, and i get artifacts all over the screen! when i go to play a game, i can hardly see anything. it's all covered with artifacts. i return to original clock settings, and tried reinstalling the driver. after that didn't work, i'm using ati's driver. still get artifacts. wtf? need help! now! can't play any games! i'm getting artifacts as i type this right now! :helpsmile: :angry:

[tesco]

I got that with my old card sometimes cause of over heating...

maybe the fan stopped spinning? better check it...

[abu_has_the_power]

my gpu is doing 32 C
it goes up to 40C with no probs.
just checked, the fan is working fine.
this is really annoying. every time i run something, it gets all crazy. :cry1:

[abu_has_the_power]

heres some examples of the artefacting:
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thats the starting thing for tony hawk pro skater 4
and
this is just browsing the forum:
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notice the pop up at the lower right corner from protowall.

[abu_has_the_power]

do u guys thinks reformatting will help this at all? if it will, i'll do it

[tesco]

I meant video card overheating. ;)

No formatting probably won't fix it. Don't see how it would, but i guess anything is possible....

Try going into the bios and see if u can get it to artifact there....although i don't see it happening. ;)

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@7 July 2004 - 18:20
I meant video card overheating. ;)

No formatting probably won't fix it. Don't see how it would, but i guess anything is possible....

Try going into the bios and see if u can get it to artifact there....although i don't see it happening. ;)
weird thing is when my comp starts, and POSTs, theres no artifacts. i think it has soemthing to do with the tv out that i use. even the post displayed on my tv when i have tv out connected works fine, but then windows starts, and it gets all fucky. post is fine. and bios is fine too. wtf

[tesco]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+7 July 2004 - 18:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 7 July 2004 - 18:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@7 July 2004 - 18:20
I meant video card overheating. ;)

No formatting probably won&#39;t fix it. Don&#39;t see how it would, but i guess anything is possible....

Try going into the bios and see if u can get it to artifact there....although i don&#39;t see it happening. ;)
weird thing is when my comp starts, and POSTs, theres no artifacts. i think it has soemthing to do with the tv out that i use. even the post displayed on my tv when i have tv out connected works fine, but then windows starts, and it gets all fucky. post is fine. and bios is fine too. wtf [/b][/quote]
well, when in windows the resolution and color depth are a lot higher, so the card is doing more work, probably why it isn&#39;t artifacting in the bios and post and startup... ;)

make sure your vid card heatink fan is spinning and also feel teh heatsink see how hot it is.

[abu_has_the_power]

got a temp sensor stuck in the gpu heatsink now, and its reading 34C

[Chewie]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@7 July 2004 - 22:47
notice the pop up at the lower right corner from protowall.
OK, noted.

Erm... what did it say, any idea?

BTW I doubt that you&#39;d get artefacting in BIOS or DOS until you&#39;ve really fucked your card. :)

[abu_has_the_power]

so wat do i do?

[clocker]

How long did you overclock your card and how high did you go?

[abu_has_the_power]

could it be that i&#39;m not giving it enough power? something like this happened before. but this time i have the molex directly from the psu plugging into it. so it&#39;s not sharing with anything.

[Chewie]

Two questions in two posts replied to, but neither answered.

Do you want help or not, Abu?

[abu_has_the_power]

the only time artefacts don&#39;t appear is when i&#39;m running without any drivers installed. i tried the ati drivers and the omega, neither one works. does this look like something a format of hdd will fix?

[clocker]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@7 July 2004 - 17:37
the only time artefacts don&#39;t appear is when i&#39;m running without any drivers installed. i tried the ati drivers and the omega, neither one works. does this look like something a format of hdd will fix?
Of course it is running with drivers...just the generic MS ones, that&#39;s all.

I don&#39;t know why a format would help.
I assume that you are scrubbing out the old drivers before you install the new ones?

[peat moss]

Originally posted by clocker+7 July 2004 - 16:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker &#064; 7 July 2004 - 16:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@7 July 2004 - 17:37
the only time artefacts don&#39;t appear is when i&#39;m running without any drivers installed. i tried the ati drivers and the omega, neither one works. does this look like something a format of hdd will fix?
Of course it is running with drivers...just the generic MS ones, that&#39;s all.

I don&#39;t know why a format would help.
I assume that you are scrubbing out the old drivers before you install the new ones?[/b][/quote]
Yep clocker this program helped me .


http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/


Edit Abu try this tool as well .
http://atitool.ocfaq.com/

[tesco]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@7 July 2004 - 19:37
the only time artefacts don&#39;t appear is when i&#39;m running without any drivers installed. i tried the ati drivers and the omega, neither one works. does this look like something a format of hdd will fix?
Funny that you keep ignoring people&#39;s suggestions&#092;questions. :lol:

not. <_<

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by peat moss+7 July 2004 - 20:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peat moss @ 7 July 2004 - 20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by clocker@7 July 2004 - 16:41
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@7 July 2004 - 17:37
the only time artefacts don&#39;t appear is when i&#39;m running without any drivers installed. i tried the ati drivers and the omega, neither one works. does this look like something a format of hdd will fix?
Of course it is running with drivers...just the generic MS ones, that&#39;s all.

I don&#39;t know why a format would help.
I assume that you are scrubbing out the old drivers before you install the new ones?
Yep clocker this program helped me .


http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/


Edit Abu try this tool as well .
http://atitool.ocfaq.com/ [/b][/quote]
i&#39;ve tried that ati tool thing. the screen gets crazy and weird.

i&#39;d decided it&#39;s not a driver prob cuz i just took out my 9800 and stuck my old 9600 back in and installed omega 2.5.11. works fine. no artefacts in games or anything. so this is really bad rite? is my 9800 dying on me? :cry1: is there any way i can save it?

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by clocker@7 July 2004 - 18:46
How long did you overclock your card and how high did you go?
its been 411/351 4 bout 3 months now. no real problems

[abu_has_the_power]

i took out this card and replaced it with my old 9600. the artifacts went away. so i&#39;ve decided that this is caused by the 9800 and i&#39;m rmaing it rite now. thanks for all ur help&#33;

[abu_has_the_power]

btw, anyone used this card before?:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-161-109&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-161-109&depa=1)

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looks pretty cool. i might buy this for another pc

[tesco]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@8 July 2004 - 13:05
btw, anyone used this card before?:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-161-109&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-161-109&depa=1)

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looks pretty cool. i might buy this for another pc
Looks really good, the HIS cards are always great.

You never told us if the fan on the heatsink was moving, but i guess it doesn&#39;t matter anymore if you are RMAing anyway.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+8 July 2004 - 13:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 8 July 2004 - 13:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@8 July 2004 - 13:05
btw, anyone used this card before?:
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looks pretty cool. i might buy this for another pc
Looks really good, the HIS cards are always great.

You never told us if the fan on the heatsink was moving, but i guess it doesn&#39;t matter anymore if you are RMAing anyway. [/b][/quote]
the fan works fine. the temps are normal too. 30ish C.


wat i might do is sell my 9800 pro and get this card with the crazy hs. is this generally better (quality wise) than a sapphire?

[tesco]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+8 July 2004 - 13:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 8 July 2004 - 13:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@8 July 2004 - 13:11
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btw, anyone used this card before?:
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looks pretty cool. i might buy this for another pc
Looks really good, the HIS cards are always great.

You never told us if the fan on the heatsink was moving, but i guess it doesn&#39;t matter anymore if you are RMAing anyway.
the fan works fine. the temps are normal too. 30ish C.


wat i might do is sell my 9800 pro and get this card with the crazy hs. is this generally better (quality wise) than a sapphire? [/b][/quote]
Ya, usually they are higher quality, run at higher clock speeds than ati made or saphire or a few others.
So ya it is better than the saphire.

[kaiweiler]

I have a HIS card and I love it, it looks way nicer then the regular ATI&#39;s
Card is rock solid, havn&#39;t had many problems with it at all, once I switched to the Omega Drivers of coarse ;)
HIS usually has a lot better cooling devices on it then ATI&#39;s or saphires too

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+8 July 2004 - 13:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 8 July 2004 - 13:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@8 July 2004 - 13:12

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@8 July 2004 - 13:11
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btw, anyone used this card before?:
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looks pretty cool. i might buy this for another pc
Looks really good, the HIS cards are always great.

You never told us if the fan on the heatsink was moving, but i guess it doesn&#39;t matter anymore if you are RMAing anyway.
the fan works fine. the temps are normal too. 30ish C.


wat i might do is sell my 9800 pro and get this card with the crazy hs. is this generally better (quality wise) than a sapphire?
Ya, usually they are higher quality, run at higher clock speeds than ati made or saphire or a few others.
So ya it is better than the saphire. [/b][/quote]
good. i&#39;ll sell my 9800 after rma and get this. how far do u think i can oc with this?

[abu_has_the_power]

ok. they&#39;re comin up again. and now with my 9600, which never hand any problems before. same exact problems as my 9800. this is so fucked up&#33; :angry: :angry:

i&#39;m back at stock settings, temps are normal, and all this shit is happening. &#33;&#33;&#33; wtf&#33;&#33;&#33;


wat do i do?????? :cry1:

should i try a format and reinstall?

[tesco]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@8 July 2004 - 19:40
should i try a format and reinstall?
If you have no problem with doing it, then fine go ahead might help.

btw, though u sold your 9600. :unsure:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+8 July 2004 - 20:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 &#064; 8 July 2004 - 20:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@8 July 2004 - 19:40
should i try a format and reinstall?
If you have no problem with doing it, then fine go ahead might help.

btw, though u sold your 9600. :unsure: [/b][/quote]
no. i didn&#39;t. i was gonna, but i kept it for a backup in case something like this happens. guess my instincts were correct, something bad was gonna happen.


i&#39;m gonna take a look. is there a definite reason y these things happen? i&#39;m not ocing anything

[sparsely]

:o
abu, you&#39;re still using that XP theme&#33;&#33;?? :P

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Sparsely@9 July 2004 - 04:11
:o
abu, you&#39;re still using that XP theme&#33;&#33;?? :P
yea. it&#39;s a good theme. i change every week.



btw, is there a definite reason y this happens?

[tesco]

Do you have any driver plugins or anything running on your computer? uninstall EVERYTHING that has anything to do with your video card.

[abu_has_the_power]

u mean like radlinker and the ocing stuff. did that

[IHAVEABU]

my rma came back. put in. same exact problem. i tried formatting the hdd. reinstalled windows, and now, i still get these artifacts. nothing is oced. i am using ati catalyst 4.7. wat do i do? this is really pissing me off&#33; could something be wrong with my monitor? or maybe my mobo? i&#39;m gonna :cry1:


:helpsmile: :helpsmile:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by IHAVEABU@14 July 2004 - 06:44
my rma came back. put in. same exact problem. i tried formatting the hdd. reinstalled windows, and now, i still get these artifacts. nothing is oced. i am using ati catalyst 4.7. wat do i do? this is really pissing me off&#33; could something be wrong with my monitor? or maybe my mobo? i&#39;m gonna :cry1:


:helpsmile: :helpsmile:
btw, ihaveabu is also me. yea.
help please?

[Storm]

maybe your AGP slot is just fucked........

see if you can put the 9800 in someone elses comp, if they get the same problem

if not, its not your card.......
if it is, ur screwed :P

[Spicker]

Originally posted by Storm@14 July 2004 - 15:57
maybe your AGP slot is just fucked........

see if you can put the 9800 in someone elses comp, if they get the same problem

if not, its not your card.......
if it is, ur screwed :P
yea i was thinking the same thing...

maybe ur mobo is giving out too much voltage to the video card and then u start seeing artifacts...

@Storm yea its his video card (9600)

check out the HIS x800pro

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[Storm]

im so glad i dont play games on my comp.......... saves me a whole lotta bullshit ;)

and money, my video card only cost 56 euro, works great, doesnt even have a fan......... i love my 9200 :lol:

[abu_has_the_power]

well, as i&#39;ve made clear by now, i still have my 9600. after this new 9800 screws up, i put in the 9600. once again, no probs wat so ever. logically, it can&#39;t be a prob with the agp, nor with the monitor itself. could it be my old guess with the inadequate power supply to the card? how can i fix that without having to buy a new psu?

[tesco]

You sure you didn&#39;t over volt the card in the bios? go in there, to the ocing opotions i think, and see what teh agp slot voltage is set too.

[abu_has_the_power]

its 1.5v. i have all my settings back to standard. doesn&#39;t increasing agp voltage help ocing the card?

[tesco]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@14 July 2004 - 14:07
its 1.5v. i have all my settings back to standard. doesn&#39;t increasing agp voltage help ocing the card?
makes it run hotter though, making it artifact more...

i tihnk 1.5v is the normal voltage so that shouldn&#39;t be the problem...

[lynx]

Increasing AGP voltage only helps if you have increased AGP bus speed, not the GPU frequency. You would normally only increase AGP bus speed if it is directly linked to the processor base frequency and you have increased that, but most decent motherboards allow you to set the AGP speed independently.

If you are running at standard AGP bus speed then increasing the voltage merely produces extra heat.

[abu_has_the_power]

seems every time i put in my 9800, it goes crazy. sometimes it crashes too. now i&#39;m using my 9600, and no probs. wats goin on? :cry1:

all my settings are bios default. my cpu&#39;s back to 2.4.

[lynx]

Sounds like its fuct.

[tesco]

Try taking out any cd drives and other extra hardware then boot with the 9800pro...
I guess it is possible that there isn&#39;t enough power coming into the card...
also if you have another power supply try that.

[Super Dude]

I noticed you&#39;ve been inserting :cry1: many times...

http://www.outofeden.co.uk/acatalog/Tissues.jpg

For you.

Abu,

Why don&#39;t you try your 9800pro on someone else&#39;s computer - and see if artifacts still appear? I mean, you&#39;ve tried almost everything...other than that.It&#39;s worth a try.

[abu_has_the_power]

i just pulled out all my all my drives and my 2nd hdd. still. i&#39;m am so pissed.


thanks for all ur help y&#39;all&#33; i&#39;ve decided, this is a piece of shit&#33; i&#39;m just gonna stick to my old 9600 for now. till i work out something. thanks for ur help&#33;

[Storm]

put your 9800 in another comp......... just try it......

do you still have warranty on it?

if so, go to the store and make them test it........

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Storm@15 July 2004 - 10:54
put your 9800 in another comp......... just try it......

do you still have warranty on it?

if so, go to the store and make them test it........
got an oem.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@15 July 2004 - 17:53
got an oem.
0W3ND

[abu_has_the_power]

i no. sucks. i just tried it on my friends pc. card works fine. cards perfectly fine.

so the psu must the the only reason left rite?

[lynx]

Have you checked your voltages when this is happening? And I mean with a multimeter, not using the onboard sensors. If they are ok then it is unlikely to be your psu.

Why can&#39;t you trust the onboard sensors? They are supposed to be comparisons to a known reference voltage. But if your psu is overloaded it may not be able to supply this reference voltage, so the reported readings will be higher than reality.

If your psu is ok, I think it is time to bite the bullet and try reformatting and re-installing your complete system, assuming you haven&#39;t already done so (and I can&#39;t be bothered to go back and read the whole of this thread to find out).

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by lynx@15 July 2004 - 13:13
Have you checked your voltages when this is happening? And I mean with a multimeter, not using the onboard sensors. If they are ok then it is unlikely to be your psu.

Why can&#39;t you trust the onboard sensors? They are supposed to be comparisons to a known reference voltage. But if your psu is overloaded it may not be able to supply this reference voltage, so the reported readings will be higher than reality.

If your psu is ok, I think it is time to bite the bullet and try reformatting and re-installing your complete system, assuming you haven&#39;t already done so (and I can&#39;t be bothered to go back and read the whole of this thread to find out).
i have formated my whole hdd. the reason i&#39;m suspecting my psu is its a really shitty one make by some 500W Powertek (basically no brand piece of shit) for &#036;20. 500w arn&#39;t meant to be &#036;20. so it has be a shitting psu.

[lynx]

That&#39;s true, but artefacting (for power reasons) only happens if the psu can&#39;t give enough amps. And if it can&#39;t give enough current through a given resistance then by the laws of physics the voltage has to drop.

So if the voltage is ok then the current must be ok. Check the voltages before the system starts windows (eg in bios setup) then check them again as windows loads and finally when you see the artefacting. If there is no significant change then although your psu may be crap it is unlikely to be the source of the problem.

If you&#39;ve got a good meter you should be able to measure max and min voltages. This should give you an idea of the amount of ripple from the psu (using it in a steady situation). It should be less than 1% (ie max to min no more than 0.12v on the 12v line). That is measuring in windows over a period of a few minutes though, not comparing windows to bios setup mode.

Just don&#39;t want you going out and getting a new psu, then finding it doesn&#39;t help.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by lynx@15 July 2004 - 13:55
That&#39;s true, but artefacting (for power reasons) only happens if the psu can&#39;t give enough amps. And if it can&#39;t give enough current through a given resistance then by the laws of physics the voltage has to drop.

So if the voltage is ok then the current must be ok. Check the voltages before the system starts windows (eg in bios setup) then check them again as windows loads and finally when you see the artefacting. If there is no significant change then although your psu may be crap it is unlikely to be the source of the problem.

If you&#39;ve got a good meter you should be able to measure max and min voltages. This should give you an idea of the amount of ripple from the psu (using it in a steady situation). It should be less than 1% (ie max to min no more than 0.12v on the 12v line). That is measuring in windows over a period of a few minutes though, not comparing windows to bios setup mode.

Just don&#39;t want you going out and getting a new psu, then finding it doesn&#39;t help.
good point. i&#39;ll do that. btw, if i were to hook up fans and other junk to one parallel line out of the psu (say with 3 molexes). one of the molexes goes to the radeon, and the other 2 go to a bunch of fans and a fan controller. does it help if i have nothing connected to the other 2 molexes? i know that in a parallel, the voltages stay the same for all the resistors (fans, radeon, other crap) but the current gets lower for each resistor. so if i were to un hook all my other shit sharing the amps, would that help the card? cuz i did that, and it doesn&#39;t do shit&#33;

[lynx]

They all come from the same point in the psu. Unless you were seriously overloading the capacity of the physical wiring you wouldn&#39;t see any difference, especially since fans take only a tiny current.

However, in the case of the 6800 &#39;s with two molex connectors I assume it was thought that the wiring could indeed be overloaded.

[abu_has_the_power]

update for y&#39;all. my psu is officially fucked. i push the power button, my led goes on for 1 sec, then turns off. so now, it&#39;s sure that this whole problem is caused by a fucked up psu. recommend me a good psu. antec? thermaltake? i&#39;m burning this powertek piece of monkey poo&#33; :angry:

[tesco]

I have no problems with my enermax 450watt. ;)

but ya the others you mentioned are good brands too.

[abu_has_the_power]

btw, does it wear out the psu if i keep my pc one for days without shutting down?



ok. antec&#39;s are too expensive. wat bout this:
Thermaltake Silent PurePower, 420W ATX power supply.UL, CSA, TUV, CE Approved. Intel Pentium 4 Compliant
Specifications:
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 420W
PFC: No
Power Good Signal: 100-500ms
Hold-up Time: >16ms at Full Load
Efficiency: >65%
Over Voltage Protection: +5V trip point<+6.8V;+3.3V trip point<+4.5V;+12V trip point<+15.6V
Overload Protection: Not specified
Input Voltage: 115 VAC / 230VAC
Input Frequency Range: 47-63 Hz
Input Current: 10.0A (Measuring 90-132Vrms);5.0A (Measuring 180-264Vrms)
Output: +3.3V@30A;+5V@40A;[email protected];+12V@18A;[email protected];+5VSB@2A

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-153-006&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-153-006&depa=1)

[abu_has_the_power]

one more thing. if the psu fucks up like this, does it damage any of my other components? (such as hdd, mobo, optical drives, graphx card, etc)


i might also consider this:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-153-007&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-153-007&depa=1)

w/e will last me a long time with the following components:

5 case fans
asus p4p800 delx
9800 pro
2 120 gb hdds
1 lite-on cd-rw
1 dvd rom
2 cathodes

[lynx]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@16 July 2004 - 17:57
btw, does it wear out the psu if i keep my pc one for days without shutting down?
Turning on and off is more likely to fuck your psu.

Both my pc&#39;s are on 24/7, I don&#39;t have power problems (and one of those psu&#39;s is a cheap generic 300W unit).


one more thing. if the psu fucks up like this, does it damage any of my other components? (such as hdd, mobo, optical drives, graphx card, etc)

It usually depends what has failed. If you keep trying to boot a system with a failed psu the chances of it hitting another component are vastly increased.


update for y&#39;all. my psu is officially fucked. i push the power button, my led goes on for 1 sec, then turns off. so now, it&#39;s sure that this whole problem is caused by a fucked up psu. recommend me a good psu. antec? thermaltake? i&#39;m burning this powertek piece of monkey poo&#33;

Just going back to this for a second, the symptoms you describe are not necessarily a blown psu. The psu will automatically cut out in an over-current situation, such as a short or another component failing. You should really rule this out before changing your psu, preferably by borrowing another psu if you can.

[abu_has_the_power]

well, these things happen very oddly. before the pc stopped turning on, i was dling something and kept it on for bout 4 hrs. when i got back and checked on the pc again, the screen was all weird and black but with artefacts and other weird stuff. it was frozen for sure. i pressed reset, and it won&#39;t turn on again. ur saying this could be caused by another compnenet? like wat?

[abu_has_the_power]

problem solved. bought the thermaltake xaser III 480W psu. that&#39;s 1 hell of a psu. it was the powertek piece of monkey poo that fucked up everything.

[lynx]

And there I was think Radeons didn&#39;t use much power. :rolleyes:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by lynx@21 July 2004 - 09:22
And there I was think Radeons didn&#39;t use much power. :rolleyes:
it doesn&#39;t use much power, it&#39;s just my old psu didn&#39;t give enough power. the rails were prob horrible. then the whole psu just failed.

btw, newegg sent me a refurb card. how long do u guys think it&#39;ll last? so far, it&#39;s had no probs

[tesco]

I had my cd-rw drive replaced after just 3 months of having it with a refurbed one and it&#39;s been working for over 2 years no problems. :)

[abu_has_the_power]

good&#33; thanks y&#39;all&#33;

[mattesca]

abu_has_the_power Posted on 21 July 2004 - 14:24
&nbsp; QUOTE (lynx @ 21 July 2004 - 09:22)
And there I was think Radeons didn&#39;t use much power.&nbsp;


it doesn&#39;t use much power, it&#39;s just my old psu didn&#39;t give enough power. the rails were prob horrible. then the whole psu just failed.

btw, newegg sent me a refurb card. how long do u guys think it&#39;ll last? so far, it&#39;s had no probs&nbsp;


so would u recomend a referbished card??

[mattesca]

sry for the spelling

[abu_has_the_power]

i&#39;d still buy a brand new card. the card i sent in for repair was 3 months old anyway, so it doesn&#39;t make 2 much difference.