What Do You Consider To Be "under-age"?

[kAb]

I noticed a topic was locked for some pedophile comments.

But these days, the average girl is fully matured (body) by the age of 16.

So what do you personally consider "off limits" in terms of 'desire'.

Do you smack yourself if you catch yourself looking at a 16 year old teen walking down the street and tell yourself that its 'just wrong'?

Or is it instinctive and you allow yourself to look?

I would go first, but as I'm still under 18 there is no problem with me looking at the teen walking down the street. But as soon as I turn 18, are they off limits?

Just would like to hear some opinions.

[Gemby!]

i think that older men around the age of 20 + should not be looking at people who they know are younger than 16

however if they dont know they are under 16 this is different as they dont know ;)

also its freaky when someone older looks at you

some of the teachers in my school were well pervy, and it makes people uncomfortable

ps. shouldnt this be in talk club ?

[Donnie Darko]

Im 15 so i think 13 and up is ok for me :smilie4:

[J'Pol]

I agree that this should be in Talk Club.

It is not appropriate for frivolous discussion.

It can only go badly here. Talk Club is more strictly moderated, that is the point.

I would appreciate it if a MOD could move it there.

[Rip The Jacker]

@kAb
If you have a problem with me moving this thread without asking, just let me know. :)

[J'Pol]

Thank you.

[Rip The Jacker]

Originally posted by J'Pol@7 July 2004 - 15:34
Thank you.
Your very welcome.

I don't think there is anything wrong with looking at teens, but then again, I'm 17...

[Gemby!]

Originally posted by Rip The Jacker+7 July 2004 - 23:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rip The Jacker @ 7 July 2004 - 23:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@7 July 2004 - 15:34
Thank you.
Your very welcome.

I don&#39;t think there is anything wrong with looking at teens, but then again, I&#39;m 17... [/b][/quote]
do you think its ok for older people to look at teens then ?

[Rip The Jacker]

Originally posted by gemby&#33;+7 July 2004 - 15:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gemby&#33; @ 7 July 2004 - 15:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Rip The Jacker@7 July 2004 - 23:36
<!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@7 July 2004 - 15:34
Thank you.
Your very welcome.

I don&#39;t think there is anything wrong with looking at teens, but then again, I&#39;m 17...
do you think its ok for older people to look at teens then ? [/b][/quote]
To be honest, I don&#39;t know how to answer that question... :unsure:

[Afronaut]

Originally posted by gemby&#33;+8 July 2004 - 00:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gemby&#33; @ 8 July 2004 - 00:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Rip The Jacker@7 July 2004 - 23:36
<!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@7 July 2004 - 15:34
Thank you.
Your very welcome.

I don&#39;t think there is anything wrong with looking at teens, but then again, I&#39;m 17...
do you think its ok for older people to look at teens then ? [/b][/quote]
...or, how does Rippy feel when Elderly (respected i must add) Ladies
take a glance on his direction?

:unsure:

[Biggles]

Surely the term "under-age" is self explanatory. In the UK under-age is 16.

However, at 47 I would consider myself fortunate if a youngster of 35 gave me a second look. :lol:

Gemby, referring to old people over 20 is not winning you friends. :helpsmile:


I do recall (vaguely) being 20. It was disconcerting to meet someone at a disco all dolled up and looking 18 only to find out that they were 14 and had blagged their way into the disco to dance and drink.

My daughter refers to some of her teachers in a similar way. The idea of teaching a pile of teenagers is horrifying. I considered teaching after university many years ago - until I discovered that all schools had at least some pupils. :ph34r:

[Keikan]

Look at it this way

why would you want to look at teenage girls? because they try so hard to look good?
and because of their efforts, they seem quite attractive?

[j2k4]

I have reached a point in my life where it is surely the case that, if I don&#39;t look, I may never see it/her/him/them again.

In the past, I tried not looking at my step-daughter (she is a very nice-looking young lady).

She told my wife she thought I didn&#39;t like her.

I have heard similar things from young people; they think we look past, over, around, or through them; I have decided to look, whenever and wherever I can.

It&#39;s fascinating&#33;

[lynx]

Originally posted by j2k4@8 July 2004 - 01:38
I have reached a point in my life where it is surely the case that, if I don&#39;t look, I may never see it/her/him/them again.

In the past, I tried not looking at my step-daughter (she is a very nice-looking young lady).

She told my wife she thought I didn&#39;t like her.

I have heard similar things from young people; they think we look past, over, around, or through them; I have decided to look, whenever and wherever I can.

It&#39;s fascinating&#33;
But drooling with your tongue hanging out can get you into trouble. :lol:

[j2k4]

Originally posted by lynx+7 July 2004 - 20:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 7 July 2004 - 20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@8 July 2004 - 01:38
I have reached a point in my life where it is surely the case that, if I don&#39;t look, I may never see it/her/him/them again.

In the past, I tried not looking at my step-daughter (she is a very nice-looking young lady).

She told my wife she thought I didn&#39;t like her.

I have heard similar things from young people; they think we look past, over, around, or through them; I have decided to look, whenever and wherever I can.

It&#39;s fascinating&#33;
But drooling with your tongue hanging out can get you into trouble. :lol: [/b][/quote]
My tongue? ;)

:lol:

[Barbarossa]

Originally posted by kAb@7 July 2004 - 23:19
Do you smack yourself if you catch yourself looking at a 16 year old teen walking down the street and tell yourself that its &#39;just wrong&#39;?

Or is it instinctive and you allow yourself to look?

Some of the 16 year olds go to so much time and trouble to stand out and be noticed, it&#39;s a shame not to... :P

I don&#39;t see any harm in looking when the opportunity presents itself.. It&#39;s when you actively go out of your way to look, that&#39;s wrong... i.e. hanging around outside youth clubs, etc.

[MicroScreen2]

2 years younger than me is the limit :)

[Gemby!]

Originally posted by Biggles@7 July 2004 - 23:48


Gemby, referring to old people over 20 is not winning you friends. :helpsmile:

i said older - not old :P

[MicroScreen2]

Originally posted by barbarossa+8 July 2004 - 10:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (barbarossa @ 8 July 2004 - 10:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kAb@7 July 2004 - 23:19
Do you smack yourself if you catch yourself looking at a 16 year old teen walking down the street and tell yourself that its 'just wrong'?

Or is it instinctive and you allow yourself to look?

Some of the 16 year olds go to so much time and trouble to stand out and be noticed, it's a shame not to... :P

I don't see any harm in looking when the opportunity presents itself.. It's when you actively go out of your way to look, that's wrong... i.e. hanging around outside youth clubs, etc. [/b][/quote]
the problem is as gemby pointed out when theyre about 9

[tracydani]

I see no problem with looking. Now if you do it to the extent of the person feeling uncomfortable, then you may face sexual harrassment charges. But looking should never be a problem.

I do however think that when you are a teacher, you need to be a bit more careful in the looking. Although personally, I don&#39;t think I could be a highschool teacher. I&#39;d never get any work done :P

TD

[Busyman]

I live in the US and anything under 18 is a no-no.

I have looked at a female walking down the street and usually when I see the facial expressions or their walk, I know they are underage.

Seeing them scantilly dressed with a phat ass and titties doesn&#39;t make them eligible.

It makes me wonder how their parents allowed them out of the house with that shit on&#33;&#33; :angry: :angry:

[MicroScreen2]

Originally posted by Busyman@8 July 2004 - 16:55
I live in the US and anything under 18 is a no-no.

I have looked at a female walking down the street and usually when I see the facial expressions or their walk, I know they are underage.

Seeing them scantilly dressed with a phat ass and titties doesn&#39;t make them eligible.

It makes me wonder how their parents allowed them out of the house with that shit on&#33;&#33; :angry: :angry:
silly how our opinions are shaped by the law, in engand it would be ok to do whatever you want with a 16 year old, in america you&#39;re a peadophile, you disgust people.

all because 2 different people had 2 different oppinions when they were writing the law

[Chame1eon]

Originally posted by kAb@7 July 2004 - 18:19
I noticed a topic was locked for some pedophile comments.

But these days, the average girl is fully matured (body) by the age of 16.

So what do you personally consider "off limits" in terms of &#39;desire&#39;.

Do you smack yourself if you catch yourself looking at a 16 year old teen walking down the street and tell yourself that its &#39;just wrong&#39;?

Or is it instinctive and you allow yourself to look?

I would go first, but as I&#39;m still under 18 there is no problem with me looking at the teen walking down the street. But as soon as I turn 18, are they off limits?

Just would like to hear some opinions.
maybe it depends on how mature they are . my theory is that peope are phisically sexualy mature sooner than mentally because they sheltered by our society. maybe we&#39;d be heathier if we didn&#39;t do this. ( still lookin for somthing to prove/disprove this idea)

aside from that why should you feel bad if your are ony doing what natural selection has dictated, as long as you are not bothign peopel with attention they don&#39;t want. (even it they mistakenly think they do )

[Donnie Darko]

Originally posted by MicroScreen2+8 July 2004 - 17:10--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MicroScreen2 @ 8 July 2004 - 17:10)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@8 July 2004 - 16:55
I live in the US and anything under 18 is a no-no.

I have looked at a female walking down the street and usually when I see the facial expressions or their walk, I know they are underage.

Seeing them scantilly dressed with a phat ass and titties doesn&#39;t make them eligible.

It makes me wonder how their parents allowed them out of the house with that shit on&#33;&#33; :angry:&nbsp; :angry:
silly how our opinions are shaped by the law, in engand it would be ok to do whatever you want with a 16 year old, in america you&#39;re a peadophile, you disgust people.

all because 2 different people had 2 different oppinions when they were writing the law [/b][/quote]
Very true.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by Donnie Darko+8 July 2004 - 15:17--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Donnie Darko @ 8 July 2004 - 15:17)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by MicroScreen2@8 July 2004 - 17:10
<!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@8 July 2004 - 16:55
I live in the US and anything under 18 is a no-no.

I have looked at a female walking down the street and usually when I see the facial expressions or their walk, I know they are underage.

Seeing them scantilly dressed with a phat ass and titties doesn&#39;t make them eligible.

It makes me wonder how their parents allowed them out of the house with that shit on&#33;&#33; :angry: :angry:
silly how our opinions are shaped by the law, in engand it would be ok to do whatever you want with a 16 year old, in america you&#39;re a peadophile, you disgust people.

all because 2 different people had 2 different oppinions when they were writing the law
Very true. [/b][/quote]
It pretty much goes along with when one is done with high school.

[Gemby!]

does anyone think that the age that someone can have sex (16) should be raised or lowered ?

or doesn&#39;t it matter as people will have sex when they want to ?

[Biggles]

Originally posted by gemby&#33;@8 July 2004 - 20:46
does anyone think that the age that someone can have sex (16) should be raised or lowered ?

or doesn&#39;t it matter as people will have sex when they want to ?
My daughter asked me what the age of consent was when she was 12. I said 32 and only after obtaining a government licence. :ph34r:


Being a woman she of course casts this up. :-"

[lynx]

Originally posted by Biggles@8 July 2004 - 21:02
My daughter asked me what the age of consent was when she was 12. I said 32 and only after obtaining a government licence. :ph34r:


Being a woman she of course casts this up. :-"
You obviously misunderstood the question.

She asked you what it was, not when she would reach it. :P

[Biggles]

Originally posted by lynx+8 July 2004 - 21:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 8 July 2004 - 21:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Biggles@8 July 2004 - 21:02
My daughter asked me what the age of consent was when she was 12. I said 32 and only after obtaining a government licence.&nbsp; :ph34r:


Being a woman she of course casts this up.&nbsp; :-"
You obviously misunderstood the question.

She asked you what it was, not when she would reach it. :P [/b][/quote]
:lol:


I may have been obtuse :ph34r:


What disturbs me most is that at 14 she has mastered "casting up".

There is definitely something in the water.

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by gemby&#33;@8 July 2004 - 20:46
does anyone think that the age that someone can have sex (16) should be raised or lowered ?

or doesn&#39;t it matter as people will have sex when they want to ?
When a girl decides shes gonna.... shes gonna.

It dont matter what the age of consent is, if she decides she wants to.


There is an age at which society must decide that it is wrong for an Adult Guy to take advantage of her immaturity and raging hormones. (and vise versa)

I think that age is dependant as much upon the system of education, parental control and culture as anything.

In the UK the decision was taken at some point to "Break children in" so to speak, to adulthood, rather than one day a "Child" and the next an "Adult"... so there are 2 years to adjust to some "rights" before the rest take affect.

As you can legally Marry at 16 in the UK, it makes sense that one of the "rights" that you receive at that age is legal sex. As you can get a flat and move out of your parents, they would have little control anyway...

Other countries its different; on your 18th Birthday everything changes (as an example).


As they are gonna anyway...you might as well leave it at what it is...

[BigBank_Hank]

Originally posted by Rat Faced+8 July 2004 - 17:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rat Faced @ 8 July 2004 - 17:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-gemby&#33;@8 July 2004 - 20:46
does anyone think that the age that someone&nbsp; can have sex (16) should be raised or lowered ?

or doesn&#39;t it matter as people will have sex when they want to ?
When a girl decides shes gonna.... shes gonna.

It dont matter what the age of consent is, if she decides she wants to.


There is an age at which society must decide that it is wrong for an Adult Guy to take advantage of her immaturity and raging hormones. (and vise versa)

I think that age is dependant as much upon the system of education, parental control and culture as anything.

In the UK the decision was taken at some point to "Break children in" so to speak, to adulthood, rather than one day a "Child" and the next an "Adult"... so there are 2 years to adjust to some "rights" before the rest take affect.

As you can legally Marry at 16 in the UK, it makes sense that one of the "rights" that you receive at that age is legal sex. As you can get a flat and move out of your parents, they would have little control anyway...

Other countries its different; on your 18th Birthday everything changes (as an example).


As they are gonna anyway...you might as well leave it at what it is... [/b][/quote]
RF I have just discovered a mysterious phenomenon: when reading/replying to topics out of WN&E we tend to agree on things. This is strange and uncharted territory :ph34r:

[j2k4]

It&#39;s one of the reasons for The Talk Club&#39;s existence; fence-mending.

I always thought that was a strange notion-we rebuild/strengthen relationships by mending fences.

Odd.

:huh:

[MicroScreen2]

Originally posted by j2k4@9 July 2004 - 00:48
It&#39;s one of the reasons for The Talk Club&#39;s existence; fence-mending.

I always thought that was a strange notion-we rebuild/strengthen relationships by mending fences.

Odd.

:huh:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

that made me laugh, it needed no sexual inuendo or vulgarities and its the best laugh i had all day :blink:

[j2k4]

Originally posted by MicroScreen2+8 July 2004 - 19:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MicroScreen2 @ 8 July 2004 - 19:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@9 July 2004 - 00:48
It&#39;s one of the reasons for The Talk Club&#39;s existence; fence-mending.

I always thought that was a strange notion-we rebuild/strengthen relationships by mending fences.

Odd.

:huh:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

that made me laugh, it needed no sexual inuendo or vulgarities and its the best laugh i had all day :blink: [/b][/quote]
Then it was worth the effort. ;)

[Anabelle]

You can&#39;t always tell the age of someone when by a simple glance. By the time I was twelve I had a b cup and was 5&#39;6. I was constantly mistook for a 16 year old. By the time I was 14 I had a 32 year old hitting on me thinking I was at least 18. So apparently people can&#39;t be held responsible at all times for a glance at someone who is underage.

[Prodigy Girl]

Originally posted by Busyman@8 July 2004 - 11:55
I live in the US and anything under 18 is a no-no.

I have looked at a female walking down the street and usually when I see the facial expressions or their walk, I know they are underage.
It&#39;s possible to tell how old a person is by their face and the way they walk? Hmm, I gotta try that one... Sometimes I can make a decent guess if a person is underaged by their conversations and the way that they dress.



I tend to view an underaged person as someone who cannot take care of themselves, but I think that deals moreso with maturity than anything. So I&#39;ll generalize by saying anyone below the age of 21 is under-aged.

[{%shellshock%}]

Originally posted by Anabelle@9 July 2004 - 04:29
You can&#39;t always tell the age of someone when by a simple glance. By the time I was twelve I had a b cup and was 5&#39;6. I was constantly mistook for a 16 year old. By the time I was 14 I had a 32 year old hitting on me thinking I was at least 18. So apparently people can&#39;t be held responsible at all times for a glance at someone who is underage.
Whats up baby B)


What Do i Consider To Be under-age?
12and below.

[j2k4]

Well, I think in the age of the interweb and moral decay in general that a healthy degree of paranoia is just that: healthy.

Problems, though, have surely arisen from that special brand of knee-jerk reaction that results in legislation, the net effect of which is usually along the lines of the following:

I coached baseball for years; got my start coaching girl&#39;s softball because my 8-year-old daughter was good enough to start at third-base on a team of 12-year-olds who made it to an interstate sectional tourney, one round away from the softball "World Series".

14 years ago we moved to a small community supposedly incapable of supporting a girls program alongside that of the boys, so my daughter played on my son&#39;s team (which I coached).

She didn&#39;t really appreciate (although the two of them were easily the best players in the entire league) that there wasn&#39;t a league for girls (there wasn&#39;t a shortage of girls who could/would play); turns out a woman who had moved to the area from another community had a daughter who had been molested (by a neighbor-nothing to do with coaches or sports), and had managed, via the inappropriate application of the aforementioned paranoia, to have the existing girls program disbanded, never to return.

Kinda dumb. :huh:

[Anabelle]

Originally posted by {%shellshock%}+9 July 2004 - 05:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ({%shellshock%} @ 9 July 2004 - 05:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Anabelle@9 July 2004 - 04:29
You can&#39;t always tell the age of someone when by a simple glance. By the time I was twelve I had a b cup and was 5&#39;6. I was constantly mistook for a 16 year old. By the time I was 14 I had a 32 year old hitting on me thinking I was at least 18. So apparently people can&#39;t be held responsible at all times for a glance at someone who is underage.
Whats up baby B)


What Do i Consider To Be under-age?
12and below. [/b][/quote]
No, but I do consider fifteen to be underage...which I am.... <_<

[MicroScreen2]

Originally posted by Anabelle+10 July 2004 - 05:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anabelle @ 10 July 2004 - 05:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by {%shellshock%}@9 July 2004 - 05:39
<!--QuoteBegin-Anabelle@9 July 2004 - 04:29
You can&#39;t always tell the age of someone when by a simple glance. By the time I was twelve I had a b cup and was 5&#39;6. I was constantly mistook for a 16 year old. By the time I was 14 I had a 32 year old hitting on me thinking I was at least 18. So apparently people can&#39;t be held responsible at all times for a glance at someone who is underage.
Whats up baby B)


What Do i Consider To Be under-age?
12and below.
No, but I do consider fifteen to be underage...which I am.... <_< [/b][/quote]
:lol: :o <_<

[kAb]

Interesting.

Now on the subject of porn, when do you believe a young adult should be allowed to show her body with consent? Is 18 to young? To old?

[Anabelle]

I think that if you can choose the leader of your country you should have the choice to if you want to exploit yourself or not.

[Alex H]

I think there are enough good looking women over 18 to bother lowering the age for porn. It would just be a case of "how far can you go?"

"Hot 18 year olds&#33;"
"This chick is 17, so this is better&#33;"
"Well this girl is 16, so check THIS one out&#33;"

Like those gangbang movies - a hundred guys have f*cked the woman and you kinda wonder whether the whole thing is meant to be arousing, or if it is just MORE=BETTER.

So, no I don&#39;t think it needs to be lowered. Those two extra years are too important to mess up with porn shoots. What do you do when you are the Superstar of Sex before you&#39;re 18 and you decide you may want to do something different with your life?

Perhaps 18 is too young as well. Sure you&#39;re allowed to have sex, but do millions of people have to watch you doing it? You may not even be able to vote yet, depending on where you live.