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Storm
07-08-2004, 04:28 PM
my roommate has the annoying habbit to directly connect her computer to the ethernet modem whenever we're out of the house, since we have a router her download speeds are slower when connected through it (prolly due to incorrect portforwarding, but plz dont tell me i should do that :P).......

i have no means of stopping her do this (other than buying a big gun, which kinda isnt an option), so i was thinking, is there any way of setting up the modem or anything that she HAS to go through the router?? (just ordinary ethernet modem, no extras)

MicroScreen2
07-08-2004, 04:34 PM
i dont quite get you.

maybe ticking this might help
http://img69.photobucket.com/albums/v210/TheDave/tick_this_box.jpg

Storm
07-08-2004, 04:52 PM
well its like this:
this is what it looks like now:


     |
     |  <---- incoming phone line
     |
 +-----+
 |     | <---- ethernet modem
 +-----+
     |
     |
 +------------------------+
 |                        | <---- router
 +------------------------+
     |           |            |
     |           |            |
     |           |            |
     |           |            |
    ME      romie1   romie2


this is what she does when we go away:


     |
     |  <---- incoming phone line
     |
 +-----+
 |     | <---- ethernet modem
 +-----+
     |
     |
  romie1


my question is: is there any way for us to make the internet not work this way(the second way) (and thus making her give up doing this)?

MicroScreen2
07-08-2004, 04:54 PM
wireless?

if its not, cant you just plug roomie1 into the router?

Storm
07-08-2004, 04:58 PM
no, its normal LAN, and i plug her into the router, but cause MSN down/uploads dont work properly behind a router, she keep plugging it into situation #2, which is really annoying when im downloading something :angry:

MicroScreen2
07-08-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Storm@8 July 2004 - 17:06
no, its normal LAN, and i plug her into the router, but cause MSN down/uploads dont work properly behind a router, she keep plugging it into situation #2, which is really annoying when im downloading something :angry:
dunno then. shoot her :D

Storm
07-08-2004, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by MicroScreen2+8 July 2004 - 18:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MicroScreen2 &#064; 8 July 2004 - 18:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Storm@8 July 2004 - 17:06
no, its normal LAN, and i plug her into the router, but cause MSN down/uploads dont work properly behind a router, she keep plugging it into situation #2, which is really annoying when im downloading something&nbsp; :angry:
dunno then. shoot her :D [/b][/quote]
cant, she still owes me money*
























*disclamer: im just joking around, it is not ok to shoot people, if you chose to shoot someone you do so at your own risk

MicroScreen2
07-08-2004, 05:14 PM
fix the ports or buy a router with an inbuilt modem may be your only options

Storm
07-08-2004, 05:16 PM
well according to the msn msg site, it cant be fixed.........

and a router with built in modem is way to fuckin expensive :(

ahctlucabbuS
07-08-2004, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Storm@8 July 2004 - 18:06
no, its normal LAN, and i plug her into the router, but cause MSN down/uploads dont work properly behind a router, she keep plugging it into situation #2, which is really annoying when im downloading something :angry:
I have the solution, follow these steps:


1 Go into her room

2 Disable the modem from the computer

3 Step on the modem with your foot, don&#39;t be afraid to use force

4 open the window

5 Throw the modem out.

Solved&#33;

MicroScreen2
07-08-2004, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Barky+8 July 2004 - 17:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Barky @ 8 July 2004 - 17:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Storm@8 July 2004 - 18:06
no, its normal LAN, and i plug her into the router, but cause MSN down/uploads dont work properly behind a router, she keep plugging it into situation #2, which is really annoying when im downloading something&nbsp; :angry:
I have the solution, follow these steps:


1 Go into her room

2 Disable the modem from the computer

3 Step on the modem with your foot, don&#39;t be afraid to use force

4 open the window

5 Throw the modem out.

Solved&#33; [/b][/quote]
then none of em can get on the net :blink:

tesco
07-08-2004, 06:13 PM
Forward the ports... :lol: Just do it, not that hard, and just saves you and her having to keep switching the modem&#092;router&#092;config around. ;)

Or try making her IP static so that when she tries to connect the modem it won&#39;t work...then she&#39;ll eventually give up lol.

edit: BEST IDEA&#33; crazy glue the ehternet wires into the ports so they cannot be removed. Then what&#39;s she gonna do? NOTHING. hahaha.

Storm
07-08-2004, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@8 July 2004 - 19:21
Or try making her IP static so that when she tries to connect the modem it won&#39;t work...then she&#39;ll eventually give up lol.
i like this one......... hard to trace what the problem is (especially if you dont have to much computer knowledge), and she cant blame me :D

how do i do it? (win XP)

ObiWan
07-08-2004, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Storm+8 July 2004 - 18:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Storm @ 8 July 2004 - 18:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@8 July 2004 - 19:21
Or try making her IP static so that when she tries to connect the modem it won&#39;t work...then she&#39;ll eventually give up lol.
i like this one......... hard to trace what the problem is (especially if you dont have to much computer knowledge), and she cant blame me :D

how do i do it? (win XP) [/b][/quote]
open up network connections
right click -> properties of the connection

select TCP/IP from the list then click Advanced (not to sure if thats what its called)
select manually set IP then enter the IP address in top box

I think this will only work if you router supports NAT

tesco
07-08-2004, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Storm+8 July 2004 - 13:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Storm @ 8 July 2004 - 13:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@8 July 2004 - 19:21
Or try making her IP static so that when she tries to connect the modem it won&#39;t work...then she&#39;ll eventually give up lol.
i like this one......... hard to trace what the problem is (especially if you dont have to much computer knowledge), and she cant blame me :D

how do i do it? (win XP) [/b][/quote]
While the computer isplugged into teh router, go to network connections (through control panel), look at what her ip address is after clicking the network connection then looking on the left side. also right down the subnet mask as well.

now right click the network connection>go to properties>click internet protocol (tcp&#092;ip)>properties>check off "use the following ip address" and type in the information you need. Here is an explanation of each:
IP address: Put the first number you wrote down from before
Subnet Mask: The second number you wrote down from before.
Default Gateway: Will be your router&#39;s IP address.

for DNS server:
Preferred DNS server: Router&#39;s IP goes here as well
Secondary DNS Server: You can leave this one blank.


good luck, and here is an example of mine:
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sparsely
07-08-2004, 06:51 PM
If the router configuration has the option, you can disable her connection by MAC address.

edit* nevermind, I misread.

tesco
07-08-2004, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by ObiWan@8 July 2004 - 13:52
I think this will only work if you router supports NAT
If there is no NAT it isn&#39;t a router. :lol:

ObiWan
07-08-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+8 July 2004 - 19:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 &#064; 8 July 2004 - 19:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ObiWan@8 July 2004 - 13:52
I think this will only work if you router supports NAT
If there is no NAT it isn&#39;t a router. :lol: [/b][/quote]
Doh

I don&#39;t know why but i thinking of about a H/W firewall :frusty: :frusty:



also i recommend that the setup is as follows:

Router IP:
192.168.0.250

PC1:
192.168.0.1

PC2:
192.168.0.2

etc..

when setting up the IPs on each machine set the default gateway to 192.168.0.250 and the subnet mask will probably be 255.255.255.0

PS. the 192.168.*.* will not be seen from the outside (anthing on the internet side of the router)