Iraqi Torture Video

[Wallace_Askew]

Do not click here! (http://www.vodkapundit.com/archives/AEIVideo.zip), This is your only warning. Not work safe! Real torture video!

[vidcc]

Originally posted by Wallace_Askew@8 July 2004 - 20:57
Do not click here! (http://www.vodkapundit.com/archives/AEIVideo.zip), This is your only warning. Not work safe! Real torture video!
ok i won't

[ZaZu]

Who's torturing who?....."terrorists" torturing someone or vice-versa...(I never download from links like that) :huh:

[Wallace_Askew]

Originally posted by ZaZu@8 July 2004 - 22:34
Who's torturing who?....."terrorists" torturing someone or vice-versa...(I never download from links like that) :huh:
Some tactics used on Iraqis by the former Iraq regime.

[{%shellshock%}]

cool and sick :D

[Wallace_Askew]

Here is a press release.

http://santorum.senate.gov/pressreleases/r...d.cfm?id=222122 (http://santorum.senate.gov/pressreleases/record.cfm?id=222122)

[{%shellshock%}]

Bye the way crash my PC the first time i try'd to play it ;)

[mogadishu]

santorum is a first class asshole and biggot.

[mogadishu]

oh god this video is disturbing..

[cpt_azad]

i'm definately not gonna be watching this, too graphic from the way u guys r puttin it, anyone wanna tell me wat happens in the vid without the gross details? :)

[Mr. Blunt]

Originally posted by ZaZu@8 July 2004 - 20:34
Who's torturing who?....."terrorists" torturing someone or vice-versa...(I never download from links like that) :huh:
American "terrorists" torturing prison inmates.

[Wallace_Askew]

Originally posted by Mr. Blunt+9 July 2004 - 02:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Blunt @ 9 July 2004 - 02:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ZaZu@8 July 2004 - 20:34
Who&#39;s torturing who?....."terrorists" torturing someone or vice-versa...(I never download from links like that) :huh:
American "terrorists" torturing prison inmates. [/b][/quote]
Did you even look at it?

It is not americas. :frusty:

[vidcc]

Ok it&#39;s a video of torture. ( which i shall not watch )

What is it you wish to debate?

That toture is bad? we all know that, or is there a specific point that you wish to debate regarding Saddam and this particular video ?

[yonki]

How is this World News & Events?

[Jay]

disturbing

[xxxSHARExxx]

holy shit :(

cant tell who is getting tortured.

[Spicker]

omg this is very graphic and disturbing

[{%shellshock%}]

:lol: It isent that bad.

[Spicker]

Originally posted by {%shellshock%}@10 July 2004 - 16:21
:lol: It isent that bad.
you arent human are you? :01: :lol:

[{%shellshock%}]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5+10 July 2004 - 15:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jaigandhi5 &#064; 10 July 2004 - 15:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-{%shellshock%}@10 July 2004 - 16:21
:lol: It isent that bad.
you arent human are you? :01: :lol: [/b][/quote]
I would have to be up close or be the one getting Tortured to get scared and no i am not human :alien:

[xxxSHARExxx]

Originally posted by {%shellshock%}+10 July 2004 - 15:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ({%shellshock%} @ 10 July 2004 - 15:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by jaigandhi5@10 July 2004 - 15:23
<!--QuoteBegin-{%shellshock%}@10 July 2004 - 16:21
:lol: It isent that bad.
you arent human are you? :01: :lol:
I would have to be up close or be the one getting Tortured to get scared and no i am not human :alien: [/b][/quote]
i wanst scared i just felt sorry for the guy that was being tortured.

no human deserve to be tortured, they should just kill them instantly

[trobinson97]

Oh my God that was disturbing. I can usually sit through these videos at least once, but I didn&#39;t even make it halfway through that one. Very very disturbing and I wouldn&#39;t recommend anyone watching it. Sick. :helpsmile:

[iMartin]

I&#39;ve seen worse. But, one question, who where they torturing and why?? :huh:

[{SHELL%SHOCKED}]

THEY MUST HAVE TAKEN LESSONS FROM THE CANADIANS AND BELGIUM&#39;S

"Bloody and contemptuous images"


CANADIAN STYLE TORTURE VIDEO (http://ms.radio-canada.ca/archives/2003/en/wmv/somalia19950119et1.wmv)



http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-71-723-4318/c...r/somalia/clip8 (http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-71-723-4318/conflict_war/somalia/clip8)

Blue helmet Belgium style torture, ROAST


Edit: Images removed by RF

BRUSSELS, Belgium (CNN) -- Belgian military officials Thursday promised a thorough review of training exercises, following the publication of photos of alleged atrocities by elite paratroopers during the 1993 U.N. Somalia peace mission.

[hungrylilboy]

hey asshole. Edit ur post and take those pics off. People put links for a reason, incase some people dont want to look at it. Ur forcing it on people.

so edit ur fucking post twat (yes i dont like u one bit)

[fred devliegher]

Originally posted by {SHELL%SHOCKED}@11 July 2004 - 19:42
Yadayada big letters n colours n shit LOOK AT ME
These actions were condemned by the Belgian government, the soldiers were punished, and IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THREAD YA SICK BASTARD &#33;

[vidcc]

Whilst condemming the soldiers in your post shellshocked i have to agree that it&#39;s totally inappropriate to have the pictures posted directly and serves no purpose other than to gratuitously please your mind. i notice it&#39;s in your sig as well so even people that don&#39;t wish to follow this thread have to see them.

[{SHELL%SHOCKED}]

Originally posted by hungrylilboy@11 July 2004 - 19:00
hey asshole. Edit ur post and take those pics off. People put links for a reason, incase some people dont want to look at it. Ur forcing it on people.

so edit ur fucking post twat (yes i dont like u one bit)
I don&#39;t think you need to call me derogatory names to make your point, do you find the spewing of profanity at newcomers therapeutic or something ?

[Ariel_001]

How can I play this... I have no audio and NERO MPEG-1/2/4 video decoder w/ DxVA Does not seems to be decoding it right.. I think it is trying to insert a logo in the bottem middle.

oh the life name is 20040617_DoDIraq.MP4

[ziggyjuarez]

Originally posted by {SHELL%SHOCKED}@11 July 2004 - 18:42
THEY MUST HAVE TAKEN LESSONS FROM THE CANADIANS AND BELGIUM&#39;S

"Bloody and contemptuous images"


CANADIAN STYLE TORTURE VIDEO (http://ms.radio-canada.ca/archives/2003/en/wmv/somalia19950119et1.wmv)



http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-71-723-4318/c...r/somalia/clip8 (http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-71-723-4318/conflict_war/somalia/clip8)

Blue helmet Belgium style torture, ROAST


Edit: Images removed by RF

BRUSSELS, Belgium (CNN) -- Belgian military officials Thursday promised a thorough review of training exercises, following the publication of photos of alleged atrocities by elite paratroopers during the 1993 U.N. Somalia peace mission.
That video was just gay :lol:

[peat moss]

Originally posted by {SHELL%SHOCKED}@11 July 2004 - 10:42
THEY MUST HAVE TAKEN LESSONS FROM THE CANADIANS AND BELGIUM&#39;S

"Bloody and contemptuous images"


CANADIAN STYLE TORTURE VIDEO (http://ms.radio-canada.ca/archives/2003/en/wmv/somalia19950119et1.wmv)



http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-71-723-4318/c...r/somalia/clip8 (http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-71-723-4318/conflict_war/somalia/clip8)

Blue helmet Belgium style torture, ROAST


Edit: Images removed by RF

BRUSSELS, Belgium (CNN) -- Belgian military officials Thursday promised a thorough review of training exercises, following the publication of photos of alleged atrocities by elite paratroopers during the 1993 U.N. Somalia peace mission.
Ya peace keepers my ass. Nuff to make one sick . I&#39;m a canuck by the way . :(

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by Ariel_001@14 July 2004 - 00:47
How can I play this... I have no audio and NERO MPEG-1/2/4 video decoder w/ DxVA Does not seems to be decoding it right.. I think it is trying to insert a logo in the bottem middle.

oh the life name is 20040617_DoDIraq.MP4
Can no one help me play this video?

[{SHELL%SHOCKED}]

Originally posted by 20040617_DoDIraq.MP4
Can no one help me play this video? [/b]


When I click on this link http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-71-723-4318/c...r/somalia/clip8 (http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-71-723-4318/conflict_war/somalia/clip8)

a normal cbc archives page opens and in the middle is WMP and press play, maybe your fire wall is blocking it ??

try this link IE plays this on on my PC, OR SAVE IT TO A TARGET

http://ms.radio-canada.ca/archives/2003/en...19950119et1.wmv (http://ms.radio-canada.ca/archives/2003/en/wmv/somalia19950119et1.wmv)


HERE&#39;S THE CBC INDEX PAGE WITH MULTIPLE CLIPS OF SOMALIA, YOU WANT CLIP 8.

http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-71-723/conflict_war/somalia/

[Ariel_001]

Ok I got the video working. It has no audio at all. The source seems to be coming from “home-made” VHS tape and there is a logo flickering in the bottom middle (maybe encoded with a trial version codec). The read me seems to hint it comes from the DoD (Department of Defense).

First ~30 seconds...



GRAPHIC VIDEO
*** NOT suitable for children.***

- This four-minute video clip documents atrocities committed by the Hussein Regime including the Saddam Fedayeen in Iraq prior to the Coalition’s librations of the Iraq people
(Fedayeen translation: those willing to die for Saddam)

- This video is mostly unedited and, therefore presents extremely graphic footage of torture (including decapitation).
It is not suitable for children.

- This introductory screen will run for 30 seconds following by six separate clips lasting about three minutes total. Some of the video has audio and some does not. When possible the video has been translated

- Questions about the tape should be (“refausd”?) to the Department of Defense


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[{SHELL%SHOCKED}]

Originally posted by Ariel_001@14 July 2004 - 22:04
Ok I got the video working. It has no audio at all. The source seems to be coming from “home-made” VHS tape and there is a logo flickering in the bottom middle (maybe encoded with a trial version codec). The read me seems to hint it comes from the DoD (Department of Defense).




IT&#39;S VIDEO TAKEN WITH A CAMCORDER OWNED BUY THE PERPETRATORS THOSE DUMMY&#39;S PROVIDED THE EVIDENCE FOR THERE OWN PROSECUTION, :D THE CBC VERIFIED IT&#39;S REAL. ;)

[SuperJude™]

This story has gotten more milage than a classic Chevy I tell ya. What were those people thinking filming that? I mean it is a given that they are who they are and they made the decision to humiliate and torture the prisoners, just saying if you were going to do it, why film it?

Makes me think of a couple conspiracy theories, like how convenient is it that this tape pops up making headlines for weeks? I can see how that could benefit the left (War for Oil and Human Torture&#33;) or the right ( Keep the limelight on Iraq no matter what&#33;).

Here is my issue.

Does anybody give a shit about what happens in their own countries jails and prisons? Here in the US, worse than that happens daily. Doesn&#39;t excuse it not at all of course. Just another example of how much messed up stuff happens everyday that we overlook and then jump like firecrackers went off when the media presents a particularly moving story.

How many you think are getting convicted for Abu Ghraib?

-SJ™

[{SHELL%SHOCKED}]

Originally posted by SuperJude™@15 July 2004 - 15:15
This story has gotten more milage than a classic Chevy I tell ya. What were those people thinking filming that? I mean it is a given that they are who they are and they made the decision to humiliate and torture the prisoners, just saying if you were going to do it, why film it?

Makes me think of a couple conspiracy theories, like how convenient is it that this tape pops up making headlines for weeks? I can see how that could benefit the left (War for Oil and Human Torture&#33;) or the right ( Keep the limelight on Iraq no matter what&#33;).

Here is my issue.

Does anybody give a shit about what happens in their own countries jails and prisons? Here in the US, worse than that happens daily. Doesn&#39;t excuse it not at all of course. Just another example of how much messed up stuff happens everyday that we overlook and then jump like firecrackers went off when the media presents a particularly moving story.

How many you think are getting convicted for Abu Ghraib?

-SJ™
Zero, reversed on appeal after Iraq misadventures are forgotten.

[Biggles]

Originally posted by SuperJude™@15 July 2004 - 15:15
This story has gotten more milage than a classic Chevy I tell ya. What were those people thinking filming that? I mean it is a given that they are who they are and they made the decision to humiliate and torture the prisoners, just saying if you were going to do it, why film it?

Makes me think of a couple conspiracy theories, like how convenient is it that this tape pops up making headlines for weeks? I can see how that could benefit the left (War for Oil and Human Torture&#33;) or the right ( Keep the limelight on Iraq no matter what&#33;).

Here is my issue.

Does anybody give a shit about what happens in their own countries jails and prisons? Here in the US, worse than that happens daily. Doesn&#39;t excuse it not at all of course. Just another example of how much messed up stuff happens everyday that we overlook and then jump like firecrackers went off when the media presents a particularly moving story.

How many you think are getting convicted for Abu Ghraib?

-SJ™
SJ

However, surely if video footage were to emerge of ill treatment in US prisons the lawyers would have a field day. In fact a field day of field days.

There were rumours of ill treatment in Iraq and Afghanistan for months but it was the pictures that gave it legs. They were apparently using the pictures to blackmail and intimidate prisoners into talking. I guess the pictures hit the streets because someone was pretty uncomfortable with events as they were developing. I think it would be stretching it to say there was a conspiracy although the exact motivation of the person(s) who blew the whistle might never be known.

The big problem with the abuse is that 1) we were supposed to be the good guys and 2) prisoners actually died under the beatings.

I have seen some apologists for the action concentrating on the rather more prosaic abuses like putting womens underwear on someones head - conveniently ignoring the rape and murder that took place. Although I suppose, by definition, in making apology they are condoning these actions too just no doubt as Saddam would.

[SuperJude™]

I hope in no way you thought I was justifying anything those people did. I can 100% understand the Army Captain who put a gun to an enemy combatants head to get vital info, as in the midts of battle things are different, but the prison thing was NOT people in the midst of battle.

My point here was that since we went into Iraq, and here were I live in leftist hell, since Afghanistan, it seems what happens here doesn&#39;t matter to people. And you wanna know why there are no tapes of Americans being tortured? Cause the C.O&#39;s here aren&#39;t stupid enough to film what they do.

For instance it comes out that Putnam Correctional Facility in NY State has a chair they strap abberent inmates to just to shock them or beat them. Right here in the US, and they probably still have the chair. Does anybody care?

Nope.

Just saying, when it is all over, remember that it is okay to care what happens elsewhere but damn PLEASE folks don&#39;t forget what happens in your own backyard.

-SJ™

[{SHELL%SHOCKED}]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040714/capt.at10207142245.saddam_sculpture_at102.jpg

Saddam Statues Melted Down, Recast
As Memorial To US Soldiers...

http://usatoday.printthis.clickability.com...&partnerID=1660 (http://usatoday.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=USATODAY.com+-+Saddam+statues+are+melted+down&expire=&urlID=11011262&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fnews%2Fnation%2F2004-07-14-saddam-statues_x.htm&partnerID=1660)

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by {SHELL%SHOCKED}+14 July 2004 - 22:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ({SHELL%SHOCKED} @ 14 July 2004 - 22:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Ariel_001@14 July 2004 - 22:04
Ok I got the video working. It has no audio at all. The source seems to be coming from “home-made” VHS tape and there is a logo flickering in the bottom middle (maybe encoded with a trial version codec). The read me seems to hint it comes from the DoD (Department of Defense).




IT&#39;S VIDEO TAKEN WITH A CAMCORDER OWNED BUY THE PERPETRATORS THOSE DUMMY&#39;S PROVIDED THE EVIDENCE FOR THERE OWN PROSECUTION, :D THE CBC VERIFIED IT&#39;S REAL. ;) [/b][/quote]
Are you saying the CBC Verified this (http://www.vodkapundit.com/archives/AEIVideo.zip) video? Where?

[{SHELL%SHOCKED}]

Originally posted by Ariel_001+16 July 2004 - 01:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ariel_001 &#064; 16 July 2004 - 01:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by {SHELL%SHOCKED}@14 July 2004 - 22:56
<!--QuoteBegin-Ariel_001@14 July 2004 - 22:04
Ok I got the video working. It has no audio at all. The source seems to be coming from “home-made” VHS tape and there is a logo flickering in the bottom middle (maybe encoded with a trial version codec). The read me seems to hint it comes from the DoD (Department of Defense).




IT&#39;S VIDEO TAKEN WITH A CAMCORDER OWNED BUY THE PERPETRATORS THOSE DUMMY&#39;S PROVIDED THE EVIDENCE FOR THERE OWN PROSECUTION, :D THE CBC VERIFIED IT&#39;S REAL. ;)
Are you saying the CBC Verified this (http://www.vodkapundit.com/archives/AEIVideo.zip) video? Where? [/b][/quote]
They verified that was the tape used by the grand jury as evidence, which was the basis for the issuing of the indictment and was then turned over to the prosecution for use in determining the charges and a exhibit as evidence , if you at the court papers from evidencery/discover portion of the GJ & TRIAL transcripts you will see.


I could really careless if Canadians don&#39;t trust thier media organizations and don&#39;t expect me to do your home work.

[trobinson97]

Originally posted by {SHELL%SHOCKED}@15 July 2004 - 19:52
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040714/capt.at10207142245.saddam_sculpture_at102.jpg

Saddam Statues Melted Down, Recast
As Memorial To US Soldiers...

http://usatoday.printthis.clickability.com...&partnerID=1660 (http://usatoday.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=USATODAY.com+-+Saddam+statues+are+melted+down&expire=&urlID=11011262&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fnews%2Fnation%2F2004-07-14-saddam-statues_x.htm&partnerID=1660)
Is that kid carrying a grenade, attempting to blow up that mourning soldier?

[100%]

This is not Torture
this is Punishment