Amd Athlon 2.8 Xp

[slimboyfatz]

I've mentioned in earlier threads that i was gonna purchase a Athlon 3.2XP, but due to budget constraints i might opt for the 2.8....one big question...is it easily overclocked and too what..can i raise the FSB from 333 to 400 easily???

[tesco]

yes easily oc.

they are called athlon xp 2800+ and 3200+, not 2.8 and 3.2.

Also i would recomend u go with, instead of those two, a 2500+ which is less than half the price of the 3200+ and you set the fsb to 400mhz and it is already running speeds of 3200+. Easy as that. The stock cooling is sufficient although you may want to apply some arctic silver 5 thermal paste.

[slimboyfatz]

How easy is it to overclock the 2800+ ??
For an intermediate like myself is it easy to raise the FSB too 400mhz??
Does it depend on the Mobo etc..............

And what speed could i get it up to???

Cheers! ;)

[tesco]

As far as i know, all the barton core's will oc to the same speed...so it doesn't amtter how much u spend on processor they will all OC the same.

Not sure how easy it would be to do the 2800+ because it has a higher multiplier than the 3200+ and 2500+ (they have same mnulti) so putting the fsb to 400 would mean it is running way faster and, well, dunno what would happen...

I'd just go for the 2500+

edit: It is fairly simple to OC it, just to get up to 3200+...
Go into your bios, and depending on teh mobo find the page where you have FSB and multi and vcore settings then raise the current fsb which will be 333 to 400 and you are done (actually it may say 166, in which case raise it to 200).
Depending on if it will boot to windows or not, you may also need to raise teh vcore a little bit. See if it will boot, and if not go to the next step up for vcore and try again.
The temps will dramatically increase after vcore has been raised so you should be paying close attention to teh temps through the whole process.

[slimboyfatz]

Cheers m8 for the info....if i went for the 2500..then pussied out and didnt overclock..is that still a gonna be a good enough processor for a few years yet??? How will it stand up against stuff like Doom3...blah blah????

The 2500XP would be alongside 512mb DDR and a Radeon 9800Pro..would that help???

[tesco]

Originally posted by slimboyfatz@9 July 2004 - 15:17
Cheers m8 for the info....if i went for the 2500..then pussied out and didnt overclock..is that still a gonna be a good enough processor for a few years yet??? How will it stand up against stuff like Doom3...blah blah????
The difference between the 3200+ and 2500+ you probably won't even notice.
Will handle doom3 and Halflife2 fine.
Only thing you will notice the difference in is probably benchmarks. ;)

[slimboyfatz]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+9 July 2004 - 21:19--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 9 July 2004 - 21:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-slimboyfatz@9 July 2004 - 15:17
Cheers m8 for the info....if i went for the 2500..then pussied out and didnt overclock..is that still a gonna be a good enough processor for a few years yet??? How will it stand up against stuff like Doom3...blah blah????
The difference between the 3200+ and 2500+ you probably won&#39;t even notice.
Will handle doom3 and Halflife2 fine.
Only thing you will notice the difference in is probably benchmarks. ;) [/b][/quote]
Yeh I was wonderin&#39; that..do benchmarks to the average joe..actually mean shit???

[tesco]

Originally posted by slimboyfatz+9 July 2004 - 15:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slimboyfatz @ 9 July 2004 - 15:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@9 July 2004 - 21:19
<!--QuoteBegin-slimboyfatz@9 July 2004 - 15:17
Cheers m8 for the info....if i went for the 2500..then pussied out and didnt overclock..is that still a gonna be a good enough processor for a few years yet??? How will it stand up against stuff like Doom3...blah blah????
The difference between the 3200+ and 2500+ you probably won&#39;t even notice.
Will handle doom3 and Halflife2 fine.
Only thing you will notice the difference in is probably benchmarks. ;)
Yeh I was wonderin&#39; that..do benchmarks to the average joe..actually mean shit??? [/b][/quote]
Nope. :P

[RGX]

Originally posted by slimboyfatz+9 July 2004 - 20:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slimboyfatz @ 9 July 2004 - 20:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@9 July 2004 - 21:19
<!--QuoteBegin-slimboyfatz@9 July 2004 - 15:17
Cheers m8 for the info....if i went for the 2500..then pussied out and didnt overclock..is that still a gonna be a good enough processor for a few years yet??? How will it stand up against stuff like Doom3...blah blah????
The difference between the 3200+ and 2500+ you probably won&#39;t even notice.
Will handle doom3 and Halflife2 fine.
Only thing you will notice the difference in is probably benchmarks. ;)
Yeh I was wonderin&#39; that..do benchmarks to the average joe..actually mean shit??? [/b][/quote]
Nope. According to benchmarks anything but the latest 64 bit uber-processor is slow. In the real world, my 2200 can still hold its own. :P

[lynx]

I&#39;ve got a 2500 OCed to the equivalent of about a 3400 (if one existed), but the only place I really notice the extra performance is in the Folding@Home project.

If you are going to raise your FSB, make sure your memory can handle it too, PC3200 at least. There is no point in getting extra processor performance and then losing out because you have to run your memory asynchronously.

[mr. nails]

Originally posted by slimboyfatz@9 July 2004 - 14:17
Cheers m8 for the info....if i went for the 2500..then pussied out and didnt overclock..is that still a gonna be a good enough processor for a few years yet??? How will it stand up against stuff like Doom3...blah blah????

The 2500XP would be alongside 512mb DDR and a Radeon 9800Pro..would that help???
ur fine with the 2500+ and the 9800 pro ONLY if u don&#39;t upgrade to next gen vid crd. why i say this is because that cpu will bottleneck with next gen cards and u&#39;ve waisted ur &#036;&#036;&#036;&#036;. :frusty:

[slimboyfatz]

Originally posted by mr. nails+10 July 2004 - 15:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mr. nails @ 10 July 2004 - 15:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-slimboyfatz@9 July 2004 - 14:17
Cheers m8 for the info....if i went for the 2500..then pussied out and didnt overclock..is that still a gonna be a good enough processor for a few years yet??? How will it stand up against stuff like Doom3...blah blah????

The 2500XP would be alongside 512mb DDR and a Radeon 9800Pro..would that help???
ur fine with the 2500+ and the 9800 pro ONLY if u don&#39;t upgrade to next gen vid crd. why i say this is because that cpu will bottleneck with next gen cards and u&#39;ve waisted ur &#036;&#036;&#036;&#036;. :frusty: [/b][/quote]
Would that be a problem with the 2800XP+ ????

[kaiweiler]

Probably yes, just not as much so. ;)
Chances are any CPU you get today under &#036;200 would bottle neck the next gen cards, so I wouldn&#39;t worry about it.
By the time your 9800pro would be out of date it&#39;d be time for a new cpu anyway.

[clocker]

K,
Why would his CPU "bottleneck" the nextgen vid cards?
Aren&#39;t they coming with even more onboard memory to avoid just that?

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by clocker@10 July 2004 - 11:35
K,
Why would his CPU "bottleneck" the nextgen vid cards?
Aren&#39;t they coming with even more onboard memory to avoid just that?
I read an article somewhere that while testing the next gen series of cards they were getting inaccurate readings because of the card being bottlenecked by the cpu.
I&#39;ll try to find it again.

[kaiweiler]

Well I can&#39;t find it again, but I remember it said something like how you have to run an OS, which takes clock cycles. Devices also take clock cycles. As do drivers and the list goes on and on.
Therefore if your CPU is to slow to handle all these processes then it will run fairly slow.
Then no matter how fast your graphics card is it will still run a game slowly due to the slow running CPU.
Thus bottlenecking your fast graphics card during gaming or anything like that.
Wasn&#39;t those exact words, but that&#39;s the idea.

[Amarjit]

Take into account the fact that the CPU is the current limiting factor of GPU performance - the bus, e.g. PCI Express, is not yet relevant. Therefore, theoretically speaking, a faster CPU will consequence in a noticeable improvement in GPU performance.

[Peerzy]

Originally posted by slimboyfatz@9 July 2004 - 19:30
I&#39;ve mentioned in earlier threads that i was gonna purchase a Athlon 3.2XP, but due to budget constraints i might opt for the 2.8....one big question...is it easily overclocked and too what..can i raise the FSB from 333 to 400 easily???
Someone wrote a guide about overclocking i think, dunno where it is, proberly in one of the pinnied topics, might be worth trying to find it ;) .