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peat moss
07-10-2004, 06:34 PM
Just getting info right now . Looking to buy in a month or two. Here's the link, canadian.

http://www.slacocomputer.com/systems.shtml

I like the Soleria 7095 or 8095. No preference between AMD or Intel , as I wont be oc'ing .
The pricing seems close , that surprises me .I will not need monitor or video card. I will use my viewsonic 17ps and ati 9700 pro. I can pick my case and psw from about 10 models. for about $ 80.00 more. I'm looking at middle of the pack, p4 3.2 or amd 64 3200.


I think I can get just the tower and goodies for under $1000. What do you guy's think? I also have the option of dumping the harddrive and using my maxtor's 60gb or 40gb instead. Both are 2mb but the 120gb is a samsung 2mb too. I can use my lg 48speed burner and lg 16 dvd as well. I wiil give my daughter my old system . p4 2.0




So you can see my problem , what to do. Which one :unsure:
kaiweiler
07-10-2004, 06:39 PM
Build your own, use your old hard drives, old optical drives, Graphics card, etc
save yourself a lot of money because you won't be paying for useless stuff that you most likely won't use.
peat moss
07-10-2004, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@10 July 2004 - 10:47
Build your own, use your old hard drives, old optical drives, Graphics card, etc
save yourself a lot of money because you won't be paying for useless stuff that you most likely won't use.
No time really ! Between new house and working 10 hour days . My girl needs a new computer, I'm not unhappy with mine, but she not getting the new one. :lol:

Im more concerned about what you think of the mobo's, the cpu's are both good in my book!
Super Dude
07-10-2004, 06:51 PM
Hi Peat,

Is the A64 3200+, a Clawhammer or Newcastle core? You might want to ask them that.

Difference between the 2 cores, is that the Clawhammer has a 1mb of L2 cache, whilst the Newcaslte has 512kb of L2 cache.

Go for the A64 3200+ Clawhammer.

I'd agree with K, though.Built the pc yourself...it'll save you money, and could be, quite a useful experience.
peat moss
07-10-2004, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Super Dude@10 July 2004 - 10:59
Hi Peat,

Is the A64 3200+, a Clawhammer or Newcastle core? You might want to ask them that.

Difference between the 2 cores, is that the Clawhammer has a 1mb of L2 cache, whilst the Newcaslte has 512kb of L2 cache.

Go for the A64 3200+ Clawhammer.

I'd agree with K, though.Built the pc yourself...it'll save you money, and could be, quite a useful experience.
Thanks Dude for the heads up on the core , Not too interested in building my self anymore . Seems cheaper to buy prebuilt . Have built two from old parts that was an experience . :lol:


Edit: With adding and playing with some of my old parts it will still have my stamp on it . :)
peat moss
07-10-2004, 08:36 PM
@superdude , HMM got off the phone with the store ,they say can&#39;t garrantiy I&#39;ll get the clawhammer with their pkg deal. Some bs about amd not marking their OEM boxes with numbers. <_< But I &#39;ll save &#036;600 .oo sans monitor and vid card. So its about a grand , what I figured . Still seems good? I&#39;ll go nuts looking for the clawhammer . :lol: I called anouther store, they said you can tell on the box under L2 cache. I smell BS .



Edit: That would be the Soleria 7095 .

For those keeping score -&#036; 500.00 monitor Samsung 170N 17" LCD Monitor
-&#036;90.00 video card GeForceFX 5600 128MB AGP8x Video w/ TV Out
Super Dude
07-10-2004, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by peat moss@10 July 2004 - 20:44
@superdude , HMM got off the phone with the store ,they say can&#39;t garrantiy&nbsp; I&#39;ll get the clawhammer with their pkg deal.&nbsp; Some bs about&nbsp; amd not marking their retail boxes with numbers. <_<&nbsp; But I &#39;ll save &#036;600 .oo&nbsp; sans monitor and&nbsp; vid card.&nbsp; So its about&nbsp; a grand&nbsp; , what I figured .&nbsp; Still seems good? I&#39;ll go nuts looking for the clawhammer . :lol:



Edit:&nbsp; That would be the Soleria 7095 .

For those keeping score -&#036; 500.00 monitor&nbsp; Samsung 170N 17" LCD Monitor
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&#036;90.00&nbsp; video card&nbsp; GeForceFX 5600 128MB AGP8x Video w/ TV Out
Peat,

Firstly, in order for us to get a successful discussion, we need to communicate properly.This is like a marriage thing.The key to success in relationships, is communication.It&#39;s the key.

:rolleyes:

Now, enlighten me, please.What does "HMM" and "oo sans" means?

Anyway, a Newcastle chip would have to increase it&#39;s speeds by almost 200mhz, to get the same perfomance as the Clawhammer at stock speeds, because of it&#39;s L2 cache.Some people preferred the Newcastle core, because it is said to have been a better overclocking chip, however, the guys are still debating about that issue.But I don&#39;t see the point in that, and that&#39;s not the case here, as you&#39;re not overclocking.So you&#39;d want the Clawhammer for your hard-earned money.If SLACO gives you the BS blaming Amd "for not marking their retail boxes with numbers" - then, what are you waiting for Peat? Tell them they could Claw and Hammer their asses goodbye, if you can&#39;t get your Clawhammer.

&#036;500 for the 17" Samsung 170N LCD Monitor is a rip off.If you want a high-end LCD, you could get it for about &#036;400-450, max, probably.The models you&#39;d want to look for is the 17" Samsung SyncMaster 710T or 710N - both with 12ms response times, with gamers giving 5 stars and good reviews on them.
haha21
07-10-2004, 11:21 PM
http://vancomputers.homestead.com/index.html
List of computer websites...
Around Vancouver B.C.

I prefer Anitec or Atic.
Keikan
07-11-2004, 12:47 AM
Canada huh where&#39;s this slaco pc?
peat moss
07-11-2004, 01:24 AM
@superdude ,I&#39;m already looking around . Hmm I ment , Sans means with out.
@haha21 thanks Found the claw at antec and atop for just under &#036; 400 .Thats just the cpu Yikes.

@keikan Surrey bc


Thanks people . Gives me something to think about. I&#39;m still wondering about the mobos . :)
tesco
07-11-2004, 02:56 AM
Never seen a person who has built a computer, but prefers prebuilt. :blink:
Just like i&#39;ve never seen a person who couldn&#39;t type but could build, and do anything with, a computer.

You sure amaze me Peat. :lol:
Spindulik
07-11-2004, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@10 July 2004 - 14:47
Build your own, use your old hard drives, old optical drives, Graphics card, etc
save yourself a lot of money because you won&#39;t be paying for useless stuff that you most likely won&#39;t use.
AGREED&#33;

Stay away from Celeron or Duron too.

AMD or Pentium is your choice, they are both good now-a-days. Many suggest that AMD is better for gaming and 3D, but make sure you are getting what you want in CPU speed&#33; AMD doesn&#39;t tell you staright forward what their CPU speed is. For example, a AMD 2800 is actually a 2.0gHz CPU (those bastards&#33;)


Build your own. Find out where and when the next computer show is in your area. You may have to travel, but you get the best prices. Building on your own is very rewarding and saves you money, except when you get shafted by Microsoft to buy their &#036;200.00 (Canadian money) Windows XP Professional Edition. Unfortunately XP is 1/3 the cost of your home-built computer, and XP is just a plastic disk. 29 cents and anyone can burn a copy.



Things to remember when building on your own:

- get a GOOD known brand motherboard. One that has upodated drivers on a reliable website for future use.

- Motherboard should support 8X AGP video

- I prefer integrated sound card on the motherboard

- I prefer integrated LAN for DSL or cable, on the motherboard

- Memory is currently cheap, get the highest speed and nothing less than 256mB for starters

- get a floppy, you never know when you need it

- Buy a cabinet WITH a power supply. It is cheaper to buy the combo. Nothing less that 500watt

- If your cabinet has extra USB ports in the front, make sure that the provided cables actually reach the USB pins on the motherboard

- optical mouse&#33;&#33;&#33;

- Am I forgetting anything? Ribbon cables, audio, etc...?
kaiweiler
07-11-2004, 03:27 AM
Spindulik, he just said he didn&#39;t want to build.
Let the old man do as he wishes :lol:
Spindulik
07-11-2004, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@10 July 2004 - 23:35
Spindulik, he just said he didn&#39;t want to build.
Let the old man do as he wishes :lol:
I know, but I said the same thing too, before I built my first computer. I have built more computers for myself, and for friends and family than I can remember.


Building your own computer is not hard. If you can build IKEA furniture, you build a computer.


Besides he said this...
"I think I can get just the tower and goodies for under &#036;1000".

Which means he is willing to build some.

With a &#036;1000 budget, I&#39;d build my own and get a FLAT monitor with the rest of the cash.
tesco
07-11-2004, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by Spindulik@10 July 2004 - 22:22
For example, a AMD 2800 is actually a 2.0gHz CPU (those bastards&#33;)
But it does teh equivelent of a pentium 4 2.8ghz, maybe 2.6ghz. But definately not a 2ghz.

Remeber the athlon 64 fx53 keeps up with the 3.2ghz P4, but runs on only 1.6ghz. ;)

sry, i think it might be 2.4ghz...not sure...
kaiweiler
07-11-2004, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by Spindulik+10 July 2004 - 23:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spindulik @ 10 July 2004 - 23:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kaiweiler@10 July 2004 - 23:35
Spindulik, he just said he didn&#39;t want to build.
Let the old man do as he wishes&nbsp; :lol:
I know, but I said the same thing too, before I built my first computer. I have built more computers for myself, and for friends and family than I can remember.


Building your own computer is not hard. If you can build IKEA furniture, you build a computer.


Besides he said this...
"I think I can get just the tower and goodies for under &#036;1000".

Which means he is willing to build some.

With a &#036;1000 budget, I&#39;d build my own and get a FLAT monitor with the rest of the cash. [/b][/quote]
He has already built a few of his own, he just prefers the premade ones. It&#39;s not like he&#39;s scared to build because he&#39;s never done it before. He has, but prefers prebuilt ones.
Simple.
Spindulik
07-11-2004, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@10 July 2004 - 23:41

sry, i think it might be 2.4ghz...not sure...

Nobody knows for sure but here is an example (http://www.oxfordpc.com/components/index.php?action=show_product2&id=1247) from my YAHOO&#33; (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=AMD+2800+ghz&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab=) search.

I am not complaining on the quality of AMD (or the price), I am just point out that the number "2800" is just a series number and does not reflect the actual CPU speed.
tesco
07-11-2004, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by Spindulik+10 July 2004 - 22:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spindulik @ 10 July 2004 - 22:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@10 July 2004 - 23:41

sry, i think it might be 2.4ghz...not sure...

Nobody knows for sure but here is an example (http://www.oxfordpc.com/components/index.php?action=show_product2&id=1247) from my YAHOO&#33; (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=AMD+2800+ghz&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab=) search.

I am not complaining on the quality of AMD (or the price), I am just point out that the number "2800" is just a series number and does not reflect the actual CPU speed. [/b][/quote]
First of all, i was reffereing to the fx53 not the 2800+.

This guide tells you what all of the athlon XPs are. (http://139.95.253.214/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/,/?St=17,E=0000000000095810703,K=3801,Sxi=7,Case=obj(1224))

And CPU speed no longer matters. It needs to be shown in efficiency, not clock speed. again, clock speed means NOTHING. ZIP. ZERO. N O T H I N G&#33;

I tihnk i have had this argument with you before.
peat moss
07-11-2004, 03:44 AM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@10 July 2004 - 19:04
Never seen a person who has built a computer, but prefers prebuilt. :blink:
Just like i&#39;ve never seen a person who couldn&#39;t type but could build, and do anything with, a computer.

You sure amaze me Peat. :lol:
I said ,I just found the money saved was not that great . ;)


Edit : The time involved is a nother issuse I&#39;v mentioned before. Guy&#39;s its not like I buy HP or Compac crap its white box stores &#39;s with good quality stuff . I&#39;m talking to the fella building my system . Yes some is hands on like putting in my own hd or cd-rw to complete the machine. But to me time IS money , I &#39;d rather speed that time playing soccer with my kids.
Spindulik
07-11-2004, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@10 July 2004 - 23:51


I tihnk i have had this argument with you before.
Oh. Now it is an argument?

Speed means something, otherwise they wouldn&#39;t be making faster processors. Clock speed? I don&#39;t mess with clock speed or tweaking. I just slap the CPU in and it works better than the previous slower one that I had. I can see the real efficiency of my CPU (compared to the slower one) when I use this software (http://www.blender3d.org/).
tesco
07-11-2004, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by Spindulik+10 July 2004 - 23:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spindulik &#064; 10 July 2004 - 23:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@10 July 2004 - 23:51


I tihnk i have had this argument with you before.
Oh. Now it is an argument?

Speed means something, otherwise they wouldn&#39;t be making faster processors. Clock speed? I don&#39;t mess with clock speed or tweaking. I just slap the CPU in and it works better than the previous slower one that I had. I can see the real efficiency of my CPU (compared to the slower one) when I use this software (http://www.blender3d.org/). [/b][/quote]
We&#39;re talking clock speed here.
You say to watch out for AMD processors because they don&#39;t say what the clock speed is.
I said clock speed doesn&#39;t matter at all, it&#39;s the efficiency of the processor that matters, then you go talking bs unrelated to this argument&#092;discussion&#092;whatever-the-fuck you wanna call it about when u buy a new processor you notice the difference with a particular peice of software?

wtf.
Tormentor
07-11-2004, 04:30 AM
Spindulik, please now what the fuck you are talking about before you go and talk out of your ass. All you are doing is showing people that you are a complete fucktard who knows dick all about proccesors.
Spindulik
07-11-2004, 04:45 AM
Clock speed Ghz, it is all the same to me. Who cares. It works.


I am TALKING ABOUT the original subject. The guy is willing to buy a cabinet, but add some new stuff in it too. He has a &#036;1,000 budget. So I cautioned him into not thinking that the AMD 2800 is a 2.8gHz processor, which was my opioion.

That is what I was originally talking about, and it lead to this.

---------------------------------

Now the rest of the off topic comments of fucktards, morons, ass blowing etc... is enough for me to let you guys hash it out on your own and say what you want. -Have fun.
kaiweiler
07-11-2004, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Spindulik@11 July 2004 - 00:53
Clock speed Ghz, it is all the same to me. Who cares. It works.


I am TALKING ABOUT the original subject. The guy is willing to buy a cabinet, but add some new stuff in it too. He has a &#036;1,000 budget. So I cautioned him into not thinking that the AMD 2800 is a 2.8gHz processor, which was my opioion.

That is what I was originally talking about, and it lead to this.

---------------------------------

Now the rest of the off topic comments of fucktards, morons, ass blowing etc... is enough for me to let you guys hash it out on your own and say what you want. -Have fun.
I&#39;m sure that Peat Moss is aware that a 2800 Athlon does not have a clock speed of 2.8Ghz.
He is quite a knowledgable man
peat moss
07-11-2004, 04:48 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler+10 July 2004 - 20:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler &#064; 10 July 2004 - 20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spindulik@11 July 2004 - 00:53
Clock speed Ghz, it is all the same to me. Who cares. It works.


I am TALKING ABOUT the original subject. The guy is willing to buy a cabinet, but add some new stuff in it too. He has&nbsp; a &#036;1,000 budget. So I cautioned him into not thinking that the AMD 2800 is a 2.8gHz processor, which was my opioion.

That is what I was originally talking about, and it lead to this.

---------------------------------

Now the rest of the off topic comments of fucktards, morons, ass blowing etc... is enough for me to let you guys hash it out on your own and say what you want.&nbsp; -Have fun.
I&#39;m sure that Peat Moss is aware that a 2800 Athlon does not have a clock speed of 2.8Ghz.
He is quite a knowledgable man [/b][/quote]
Wellll, I&#39;ll stay away from the celrons too. :D JK
@Spindulik I&#39;m sure your intentions were good no hard fellings I hope . :)
tesco
07-11-2004, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by Spindulik@10 July 2004 - 23:53
Clock speed Ghz, it is all the same to me. Who cares. It works.


I am TALKING ABOUT the original subject. The guy is willing to buy a cabinet, but add some new stuff in it too. He has a &#036;1,000 budget. So I cautioned him into not thinking that the AMD 2800 is a 2.8gHz processor, which was my opioion.

That is what I was originally talking about, and it lead to this.

---------------------------------

Now the rest of the off topic comments of fucktards, morons, ass blowing etc... is enough for me to let you guys hash it out on your own and say what you want. -Have fun.
Now you aren&#39;t making any sense, please stop making up stuff when u have no clue what u are talking about.

The 2800+ is NOT 2.8ghz, it is equivelent in performance to a pentium 4 which runs at a clock speed of 2.8ghz, but is NOT 2.8ghz.

You clearly do not understand how processors work (even i don&#39;t enirely but i can admit it).



And why are you cautioning him into not thinking that the amd 2800 is 2.8ghz, why does that matter? It has nothing to do with the perofrmance he will see fropm the process, because they do not relate for amd processors.

Besides, peatmoss is a smart guy, im sure he already knows this (acutally might not, i understand he knows more about intel...)
kaiweiler
07-11-2004, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by peat moss+11 July 2004 - 00:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peat moss @ 11 July 2004 - 00:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kaiweiler@10 July 2004 - 20:55
<!--QuoteBegin-Spindulik@11 July 2004 - 00:53
Clock speed Ghz, it is all the same to me. Who cares. It works.


I am TALKING ABOUT the original subject. The guy is willing to buy a cabinet, but add some new stuff in it too. He has&nbsp; a &#036;1,000 budget. So I cautioned him into not thinking that the AMD 2800 is a 2.8gHz processor, which was my opioion.

That is what I was originally talking about, and it lead to this.

---------------------------------

Now the rest of the off topic comments of fucktards, morons, ass blowing etc... is enough for me to let you guys hash it out on your own and say what you want.&nbsp; -Have fun.
I&#39;m sure that Peat Moss is aware that a 2800 Athlon does not have a clock speed of 2.8Ghz.
He is quite a knowledgable man
Wellll, I&#39;ll stay away from the celrons too. :D [/b][/quote]
:lol: Good choice&#33;
Athlon XP would be agood choice, or P4, but P4 is plenty more expensive usually.
Although in your link, they are relativley the same price, either would suffice.
peat moss
07-11-2004, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler+10 July 2004 - 21:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler @ 10 July 2004 - 21:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by peat moss@11 July 2004 - 00:56

Originally posted by kaiweiler@10 July 2004 - 20:55
<!--QuoteBegin-Spindulik@11 July 2004 - 00:53
Clock speed Ghz, it is all the same to me. Who cares. It works.


I am TALKING ABOUT the original subject. The guy is willing to buy a cabinet, but add some new stuff in it too. He has&nbsp; a &#036;1,000 budget. So I cautioned him into not thinking that the AMD 2800 is a 2.8gHz processor, which was my opioion.

That is what I was originally talking about, and it lead to this.

---------------------------------

Now the rest of the off topic comments of fucktards, morons, ass blowing etc... is enough for me to let you guys hash it out on your own and say what you want.&nbsp; -Have fun.
I&#39;m sure that Peat Moss is aware that a 2800 Athlon does not have a clock speed of 2.8Ghz.
He is quite a knowledgable man
Wellll, I&#39;ll stay away from the celrons too. :D
:lol: Good choice&#33;
Athlon XP would be agood choice, or P4, but P4 is plenty more expensive usually.
Although in your link, they are relativley the same price, either would suffice. [/b][/quote]
Kai thats what confused me . Thought Amd would be a liitle cheaper . I guess the high end stuff has a price ? :)
tesco
07-11-2004, 04:59 AM
Oh ya, to finally answer your question peat, i say go with the 7095. They are both the exact same system with different motherboard and processor.
I&#39;d rather have the 64bit because, well, i wanna try windows xp 64bit, there will be more 64bit software soon too, meaning the 64bit processors will have better performance in these apps than in the 32bt written apps.

But, if u don&#39;t cure for that, then the P4 is the same price so u could go for that too.

Really it&#39;s up to you.

oh, the prices are same between the two becuase ti is only AMD&#39;s 32bit processors which are cheap, the 64bit ones are prices right up there with intel&#39;s...

edit2: one last thing, i&#39;d take that 5600 out and put in your 9700pro instead, much better performance. :) put the 5600 in your daughter&#39;s comp.
kaiweiler
07-11-2004, 05:01 AM
Generally it&#39;s the Athlon XP&#39;s that are a lot cheaper from AMD then going the P4 route. However the Athlon 64&#39;s are actually quite similar price wise to the P4&#39;s.

EDIT and I agree with Rossco, I&#39;d say go for the 64bit. Even if it doesn&#39;t give you any benefits now, chances are it will down the road.
Super Dude
07-11-2004, 05:02 AM
Peat,

It&#39;s nice to know you&#39;re spending the precious spare time you have, with your kids, not many have the opportunity to do that, some don&#39;t even want to do things like that - You definately have my salute and respect.

Ok, now for the motherboard.

I think the Gigabyte GA-K8VT800 Pro will suit you just fine.Though, if it&#39;s possible that you could choose a different motherboard from SLACO, let us know.

As for the Celerons, Intel&#39;s new Celeron D is proving to be a serious competitor for Amd&#39;s Athlon Xps.
kaiweiler
07-11-2004, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Super Dude@11 July 2004 - 01:10
As for the Celerons, Intel&#39;s new Celeron D is proving to be a serious competitor for Amd&#39;s Athlon Xps.
Still no competition for the Athlon 64&#39;s or the P4&#39;s which Peat Moss is looking at though.
I still say stay away from the Celerons
tesco
07-11-2004, 05:05 AM
Either way i hate celerons.
I&#39;d try to avoid them at all costs.
kaiweiler
07-11-2004, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@11 July 2004 - 01:13
Either way i hate celerons.
I&#39;d try to avoid them at all costs.
Same, I had a Celeron 850Mhz back in the day and it was not fun at all :rolleyes:
peat moss
07-11-2004, 05:08 AM
@kai & Rossco my thinking exactly .I read about the xp 64 bit thought I could stay a step ahead a wee bit . :frusty:
kaiweiler
07-11-2004, 05:11 AM
Originally posted by peat moss@11 July 2004 - 01:16
@kai & Rossco my thinking exactly .I read about the xp 64 bit thought I could stay a step ahead a wee bit . :frusty:
Yes definatly, as I said if it doesn&#39;t help you today, chances are it will tomorow.
I&#39;d say go the 64 bit route and stay ahead of the game, for now anyway :rolleyes:
tesco
07-11-2004, 05:17 AM
Now that i see you guys agree with me on the processors (64bit), lets see if u agree with vid cards.

Do you think having a really high speed or having close to as much speed plus features for teh future (namely directx9.0c (pixel shader 3)) support is more important?

I say pixel shader 3, what do u guys think? I say PS3 becuase it adds more to teh life of a card...like atm if i was trying to buy a new card on a budget i wouldn&#39;t get a 9200 because it doesn&#39;t have PS2 support, but i would get the 5200 cause it does.

see what i mean? what do u guys think?
peat moss
07-11-2004, 05:25 AM
Hey little buddie I&#39;ll send you my new :GeForceFX 5600 128MB AGP8x That I or my daughter have no use for . I would even pay the shipping costs . :)




edit: Just kidding :)
tesco
07-11-2004, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by peat moss@11 July 2004 - 00:33
Hey little buddie I&#39;ll send you my new :GeForceFX 5600 128MB AGP8x&nbsp; That I&nbsp; or my daughter have no use for . I would even pay the shipping costs .&nbsp; :)




edit: Just kidding&nbsp; :)
:angry: You scared me.

:lol:

edit: Are you really that rich that you have no use for a 5600? :blink: :lol:
peat moss
07-11-2004, 05:33 AM
@rossco rich no it comes with the pkg deal . But I will upgrade memory instead . I will keep the ati card I have. :lol:
Super Dude
07-11-2004, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by kaiweiler+11 July 2004 - 05:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler @ 11 July 2004 - 05:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Super Dude@11 July 2004 - 01:10
As for the Celerons, Intel&#39;s new Celeron D is proving to be a serious competitor for Amd&#39;s Athlon Xps.
Still no competition for the Athlon 64&#39;s or the P4&#39;s which Peat Moss is looking at though.
I still say stay away from the Celerons [/b][/quote]
Why, of course.I mean, who would compare a 2500+ or a 2.66Ghz Celeron D at stock speeds with an A64 or a P4 3.2?

A Celeron D, overclocked to 3.8 Ghz, in some benchmarks, performed better than a 2.8E, and other benchmarks, on par with a 3.2E.And it can easily be overclocked to 3.8Ghz with simple air cooling.

I&#39;ve made a thread about the new Celerons, so you can add your opinions there.
tesco
07-11-2004, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by peat moss@11 July 2004 - 00:41
@rossco rich no it comes with the pkg deal . But I will upgrade memory instead . I will keep the ati card I have. :lol:
No, you said u have no need for it (u were joking i think).

So i said are u really that rich that all of your computers have a better card than a 5600 lol.

just forget it.
tesco
07-11-2004, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by Super Dude@11 July 2004 - 00:44
I&#39;ve made a thread about the new Celerons, so you can add your opinions there.
Where is it? :unsure:
peat moss
07-11-2004, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+10 July 2004 - 21:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 10 July 2004 - 21:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Super Dude@11 July 2004 - 00:44
I&#39;ve made a thread about the new Celerons, so you can add your opinions there.
Where is it? :unsure: [/b][/quote]
Ya I&#39;m curious too .
Super Dude
07-11-2004, 05:57 AM
Here. (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=117613)