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south-paw
03-21-2003, 01:04 AM
I seem to have plenty of my sdram memory spare, but what is so hot about DDR? As i've only 2 slots should I go for the quality, or assume ignorance is bliss?

Jibbler
03-21-2003, 01:22 AM
DDR is much faster and can handle larger sizes. SDRAM is slowly being phased out.--

Jibbler

Supernatural
03-21-2003, 04:48 AM
There isn't much difference in performance, but it is old technology and being phased out like Jibbler said.

harrycary
03-21-2003, 05:35 AM
isn't much of an improvement?
come-on Supernatural.
it seems that doubling the data rate (DDR) going in and out of your memory will clearly improve performance. what a no-brainer.
it's no wonder that more and more "off the shelf" computers(e.g. compaq, dell, hp, etc.) come with DDR ram.
SDRAM & RDRAM, for consumer use, is going bye bye.

Southpaw, if your mobo gives you the option of SDRAM or DDRRAM(you can't use both), go with DDR RAM. hell it's cheap these days. 256mb for under $50.
unless you're a serious gamer, graphic artists, or video editor, it will be plenty.

just my 2 cents...

Supernatural
03-21-2003, 05:59 AM
Sure it SEEMS like it, but doubling RAM speed does not make games twice as fast or make programs open twice as fast. There are so many other factors that contribute to overall system performance.. not just RAM speed.

Blue_Seraphim
03-21-2003, 08:52 AM
Anyone who has lots of RAM knows. IT HELPS. PROGRAMS AND THE LIKE DO OPEN FASTER AND RUN SMOOTHER.

Xcian
03-21-2003, 09:26 AM
halo
ddr (as against sdram) may not double your computer's speed but certainly there will be a big difference in performance. 256mb would be right for most users who do things a bit beyond word processing and web surfing. 512mb would be some sort of overkill for the previously mentioned market. the added benefits would be marginal relative to the cost. of course if you have lots of money it wouldn't hurt
caveat emptor: ddr memory won't work with sdram. if your motherboard uses sdram then buy sdram
thanx

imported_QuietSilence!
03-21-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Blue_Seraphim@21 March 2003 - 09:52
Anyone who has lots of RAM knows. IT HELPS. PROGRAMS AND THE LIKE DO OPEN FASTER AND RUN SMOOTHER.
not true programs will not open any faster at all the bottle neck is the hard drive
sdram may be slower but the hd is slower yet

the place u will see some improvement is after the program loads and ur are prossing info such as doing a spell check in word or rendering and in most games and even then u would not see much diffrence

but i would still recomend u get ddr ram as u will not be able to use sdram in newer comps and will have to buy ddram when u ugrade eventualy so u might as well bye what u can use latter

but u probly got plenty enff ram for any norml use of ur comp unless u do a lot of video encoding or rendering

Supernatural
03-21-2003, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by QuietSilence&#33;+21 March 2003 - 10:45--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (QuietSilence&#33; @ 21 March 2003 - 10:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Blue_Seraphim@21 March 2003 - 09:52
Anyone who has lots of RAM knows. IT HELPS. PROGRAMS AND THE LIKE DO OPEN FASTER AND RUN SMOOTHER.
not true programs will not open any faster at all the bottle neck is the hard drive
sdram may be slower but the hd is slower yet

the place u will see some improvement is after the program loads and ur are prossing info such as doing a spell check in word or rendering and in most games and even then u would not see much diffrence

but i would still recomend u get ddr ram as u will not be able to use sdram in newer comps and will have to buy ddram when u ugrade eventualy so u might as well bye what u can use latter

but u probly got plenty enff ram for any norml use of ur comp unless u do a lot of video encoding or rendering [/b][/quote]
Well, you are actually proving his point there. The more RAM a system has, the less it has to access the MUCH SLOWER hard drive, therefore increasing system speed. It&#39;s a well known fact that the amount of RAM is probably the biggest performance factor in computers. I&#39;ll take a 1Ghz computer that has 512MB ram over a 2Ghz computer with 256MB ram any day.

south-paw
03-21-2003, 07:58 PM
Thanks for your thoughts guys. I got 512SDRAM, an a 64mb card.I do a lot of online gaming.I was wondering whether 512 DDR would offer a cheaper increase in perfomance, than getting a 128mb gfx card....

CornerPocket
03-21-2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by south-paw@21 March 2003 - 13:58
Thanks for your thoughts guys. I got 512SDRAM, an a 64mb card.I do a lot of online gaming.I was wondering whether 512 DDR would offer a cheaper increase in perfomance, than getting a 128mb gfx card....
Might want to insure your board is capable of supporting DDR ram. Since no mention of exactly what type of system you are running I&#39;m merely giving suggestions to check. Have you checked for any vid card driver updates? What resolution do you use when playing on-line? If 1042x768 or higher, maybe dropping down one would help; ex. if you are running 1024x768, drop to 800x600, get the picture? I would think the 64MB vid card would be sufficient but again depends on your system setup, vid card type and whether or not you are running the latest drivers. Post what type of system w/specs you are running, maybe there is something that can be suggested based on those specs that will help...................

south-paw
03-21-2003, 09:03 PM
System? sorry, I use a P4 1.6,the m&#39;board is Gigabyte 8IDML, which I m sure accepts DDR, with a GeForce4MX420.When I checked NVIDIA, only the MX440 drivers were listed:( Yeah I play online at 800x600, all game video options set at normal.
It&#39;s just recently I played BF1942, and that game seems particularly &#39;processor intensive&#39;, as my bro puts it.Far too much screen lag. Hence my thinking about DDR and 128mb card upgrades. :D

Supernatural
03-21-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by south-paw@21 March 2003 - 16:03
System? sorry, I use a P4 1.6,the m&#39;board is Gigabyte 8IDML, which I m sure accepts DDR, with a GeForce4MX420.When I checked NVIDIA, only the MX440 drivers were listed:( Yeah I play online at 800x600, all game video options set at normal.
It&#39;s just recently I played BF1942, and that game seems particularly &#39;processor intensive&#39;, as my bro puts it.Far too much screen lag. Hence my thinking about DDR and 128mb card upgrades. :D
In your case, a video card upgrade is necessary. You&#39;ll need GeForce4 ti 4200 AT LEAST.

south-paw
03-22-2003, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by Supernatural@21 March 2003 - 23:27
In your case, a video card upgrade is necessary. You&#39;ll need GeForce4 ti 4200 AT LEAST.
Be serious dude, I kicked off this thread asking for advice on DDR memory versus SDRAM, cause I hoped to save money on having to upgrade my card just yet.Your little contribution just adds dust to my wallet, not knowledge to my spending power :lol:
btw,CornerPocket, you were not wrong about the drivers, I managed to locate a whole load of the latest drivers.Guess I&#39;d better set about uninstalling the old, and installing the new :D thanks

Supernatural
03-22-2003, 02:09 AM
Well, you&#39;re the one who mentioned video cards, not me. :P

imported_QuietSilence!
03-22-2003, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by Supernatural@21 March 2003 - 20:42
Well, you are actually proving his point there. The more RAM a system has, the less it has to access the MUCH SLOWER hard drive, therefore increasing system speed. It&#39;s a well known fact that the amount of RAM is probably the biggest performance factor in computers. I&#39;ll take a 1Ghz computer that has 512MB ram over a 2Ghz computer with 256MB ram any day.
ah... the thread was about ddram vs sdram not amount of ram and yes more ram helps

but i might mension that going from 256 to 512 will not be a huge diffrence after 256 Mb ram the performance increase is greatly redused after 512 the performance increase is all most nothing

unless as i said u do a lot of video editing and rendering or u want to be able to run more programs at a time or ur runing a data base server

and again the bottle neck is in the hard drive not the ram so a program will not open any faster no matter how much ram u got
it still has to come from the same hard drive going from a 5200rpm drive to a 7200 rpm drive will give a better performance increase

and south-paw u will see a biger improvement in getting a better video card then in getiing faster ram and 512 MB ram should be plenty for any game out

Supernatural
03-24-2003, 04:46 AM
Well, I do ALOT of multi-tasking and gaming.. so RAM is most important to me. And there is no real-world performance advantages of 7200rpm HD over 5400rpm HD, just miniscule benchmark advantages.