Restarting Winxp Sp1

[Titus808]

sorry for posting another one of these stupid problems, i've heard it before, not sure if it was here...anyways my xp keeps restarting for no reason (it seems it does it when I have several tabs open in firefox) but my ram manager says nothing like low in memory or high CPU usage, it does not happen ALL the time or with any singularity on how often it does it, its a random thing, and it's very annoying.

I turned off auto restart, so thats not it, is there anything else I've probably ignored? XP has alot of stupid settings, I never had this kind of problem with win2000.

As usual any help would be appreciated TO THE EXTREME!! :lol:

[Chewie]

Originally posted by Titus808@11 July 2004 - 09:11
sorry for posting another one of these stupid problems, i've heard it before, not sure if it was here...anyways my xp keeps restarting for no reason (it seems it does it when I have several tabs open in firefox) but my ram manager says nothing like low in memory or high CPU usage, it does not happen ALL the time or with any singularity on how often it does it, its a random thing, and it's very annoying.

I turned off auto restart, so thats not it, is there anything else I've probably ignored? XP has alot of stupid settings, I never had this kind of problem with win2000.

As usual any help would be appreciated TO THE EXTREME!! :lol:
If you turned off auto-restart then you'll get a BSOD (Bluescreen) so what's the error code?

Oh yeah, turn off your memory 'manager'; XP manages it very well indeed without assistance.

[Robert00000]

Where do i start with this one. It could be a driver issue, OCed processor, virus, some device prob, blah blah.

The blah, blah is the worst, it's incurable :lol:


Give us more info about your system.


EDIT: To chewie, i see you've lost one of your stars, how does the star system work now, any ideas?

[Titus808]

the memory manager is ramcleaner, i've used it for a long ass time, and it never gave me any problems, I only use it to monitor it...so that's not the problem even when turned off it occasionally happens...

running on AMD duron 1.3, 512mb pc3200, radeon 9800 AIW creative audigy 2 zs, 200 gig seagate drive...no virus, no adware, checked with SS5, house call, adaware and hijack this, so that's not it...fresh install of XP....

[Robert00000]

Originally posted by Titus808@11 July 2004 - 21:13
the memory manager is ramcleaner, i've used it for a long ass time, and it never gave me any problems, I only use it to monitor it...so that's not the problem even when turned off it occasionally happens...

running on AMD duron 1.3, 512mb pc3200, radeon 9800 AIW creative audigy 2 zs, 200 gig seagate drive...no virus, no adware, checked with SS5, house call, adaware and hijack this, so that's not it...fresh install of XP....
have you overclocked the processor? Do you get any error messages?

I see you have TABS open in Firefox, how many do you open at a time before this happens?

[Storm]

what are your CPU temps after it reboots??? maybe its your mobo rebooting out of safety.......

[Chewie]

FOR FUXAKE PEOPLE! Stop guessing; he'll be chasing his tail for a bloody fortnight.

He's turned off autostart, so how can the system just reboot? If there's no BSOD then it's either mobo (very faint possibility), PSU or virus; anything else will BSOD.


@ Robert:
It might look like I'm hounding you from my posts the last week or so, but I'm not. :)
Stars... there's a link at the top of the page labelled Post Count & Members' Ranks (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=22373).

[Robert00000]

Originally posted by Chewie UK@11 July 2004 - 23:41
@ Robert:
It might look like I'm hounding you from my posts the last week or so, but I'm not. :)
Stars... there's a link at the top of the page labelled Post Count & Members' Ranks (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=22373).
Thanks chewie.

I'm not going to get 5 stars when i make my 1000th post, i'll need 5000 :angry:

[Titus808]

@chewie, ok its definetly not a virus/trojan/worm bla bla...it is very possible that it is the PSU simply because it seems that it restarts when I am running bitcomet & firefox at the same time (not alot of CPU load but alot of bandwidth load)

I FINALLY got a BSOD (I was hoping it would'nt happen) which read the usual jabble along with this tag:

STOP - 0x00000007f (0x00000008, 0x80042000, 0x000000000, 0x000000000) the zeros might be a bit off :lol:

I am soon to buy a new cpu and mobo...I guess I can pick up a new PSU as well, i'm going to tweakXP to see what they have on this, jeez, it's getting really annoying.

[Robert00000]

Originally posted by Titus808@12 July 2004 - 22:43
@chewie, ok its definetly not a virus/trojan/worm bla bla...it is very possible that it is the PSU simply because it seems that it restarts when I am running bitcomet & firefox at the same time (not alot of CPU load but alot of bandwidth load)

I FINALLY got a BSOD (I was hoping it would'nt happen) which read the usual jabble along with this tag:

STOP - 0x00000007f (0x00000008, 0x80042000, 0x000000000, 0x000000000) the zeros might be a bit off :lol:

I am soon to buy a new cpu and mobo...I guess I can pick up a new PSU as well, i'm going to tweakXP to see what they have on this, jeez, it's getting really annoying.

Identifying the culprit in BSOD: http://www.ntbrad.com/bsod.htm

[Titus808]

@robert its saying it could be a bad ram, bios, driver problem, ahh jeez...if it was that, would'nt I get the BSOD more often?? It's only come up once, (by the way it is still restarting)

the restarting happenned twice recently, while I was trying to install BFV and when I was deep scanning with SS5, both high stress CPU situations.

I really, really hope it's just the PSU.

:(

[tesco]

Won't be the PSU.

Have you tried uninstalling that memory manager app?

[Titus808]

I did now, but it won't do anything because ramcleaner does nothing, all I used it for was to see cpu usage, its not on at startup or anything.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Titus808@12 July 2004 - 22:45
I did now, but it won't do anything because ramcleaner does nothing, all I used it for was to see cpu usage, its not on at startup or anything.
Well, it might have a service or something...dunno, just worth a try uninstalling it.

[Titus808]

I did and 45 seconds ago it restarted again :angry:. (sigh)

windows system information is reporting these under the conflicts/sharing tab:



I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF SIS Processor to AGP Controller
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES 

IRQ 11 D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev.A)
IRQ 11 Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS (WDM)

IRQ 12 SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
IRQ 12 SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
IRQ 12 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF SIS Processor to AGP Controller
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES 

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB SIS Processor to AGP Controller
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES


does this mean anything to anyone? do you see an actual problem there?

[Chewie]

Bad memory will not necessarily cause errors all the time because you may not load into the bad area that often, perhaps only when you're running several applcations at once.
I'd suggest downloading and testing thoroughly with Memtest86 before going further.

[Titus808]

I actually ran memtest86 day before yesterday all night, came up empty handed no problems (which sucks because it just brings up more questions)

I found event viewer has logged a DCOM error that seems to coincide with the rebooting
BA126AE5-2166-11D1-B1D0-00805FC1270E

apparently that string deals with messenger (which I tought I had disabled) I uninstalled it just now (I think I did anyways, you never know with this crap) and it has not rebooted for a bit...but last night the pc was on for 6 hours without rebooting, so you never know :angry:.

I found this huge thread with people that have the same problem as I do, and again it seems to be a PSU problem (I am buying a new setup soon, that will be at the top of my list) I will also buy another stick of ram, a better brand this time, not "generic house brand," but memtest pointed no problems so maybe generic house brand is'nt so bad.

this is the thread: http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/11668/?o=40

my case is'nt really overheated, BIOS says CPU is at 54 degrees (sounds about right) and system is at 36 degrees.

if and...probably when it restarts again I will check the events viewer to verify that it is indeed that DCOM problem.

anyways my biggest fear is that when I upgrade the problem will continue, chewie, do you think it's possible that after I upgrade cpu mobo add stick of ram put in 500 watt psu, get new case 4 more fans add a thermaltake silent tower, do you think this crap can still happen? :ph34r: (with a clean install of XP of course)

:frusty:

I&#39;ve never had a more annoying problem. I also turned hardware acceleration down a notch, just to see what happens...sigh...The only game left on my HD (it crashes when I try to install anything big <_<) is the HL2 beta, i&#39;m going to try it out now and see if I can stir up another BSOD and get a clue about this shit.


should I upgrade BIOS (I have a ECS elitegroup k7s5a POS installed) and where can I find it?

[tesco]

You can get teh bios at www.ecsusa.com. This is where i got mine from.

I doubt it&#39;s still gonna happen after reinstalling all that, probably would stop after just reinstalling windows. :lol:

About the messenger thing. I don&#39;t think it is related to msn messenger&#092;window messenger. I think it means teh messenger servivce (lot&#39;s of spam comes through here.)
go to services.msc (start>run>type it in>ok) and find messenger on the list then double click set to disable and click stop.

[Titus808]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@14 July 2004 - 00:32
You can get teh bios at www.ecsusa.com. This is where i got mine from.

I doubt it&#39;s still gonna happen after reinstalling all that, probably would stop after just reinstalling windows. :lol:

About the messenger thing. I don&#39;t think it is related to msn messenger&#092;window messenger. I think it means teh messenger servivce (lot&#39;s of spam comes through here.)
go to services.msc (start>run>type it in>ok) and find messenger on the list then double click set to disable and click stop.
I had messenger disabled from day one :(...and it just restarted again, I will reformat again...I guess I have nothing but time so fuck it i&#39;ll reformat.

[Chewie]

Originally posted by Titus808@14 July 2004 - 00:28
...my case is&#39;nt really overheated,&nbsp; BIOS says CPU is at 54 degrees (sounds about right) and system is at 36 degrees...

...chewie, do you think it&#39;s possible that after I upgrade cpu mobo add stick of ram put in 500 watt psu, get new case 4 more fans add a thermaltake silent tower, do you think this crap can still happen?&nbsp; :ph34r: (with a clean install of XP of course)...

...should I upgrade BIOS (I have a ECS elitegroup k7s5a POS installed) and where can I find it?
K7S5A? Jesus, I have a couple of bookmarks here because people with that board often have chipset issues and PSU problems.
First off, at least put a decent heatsink paste under the cjipset or, even better, install &#39;active&#39; cooling on it.

After that, check HERE (http://pub140.ezboard.com/bk7s5amotherboardforum) and HERE (http://p199.ezboard.com/fk7s5amotherboardforumfrm5.showMessage?topicID=1200.topic) for help.

I would bet that your problems would disappear if you changed that lot, nut I personally wouldn&#39;t bother with 4 more fans, just one more exhaust.

[Titus808]

(to clear up any thoughts, I DID NOT buy this system, it was given to me, and I applied thermal paste when I received it)


after reformatting, the system is stable, I now think (I REALLY THINK&#33;) that the culprit behind my nightmare problem was creative&#39;s web update drivers, which I refrained from updating this time around, and it has not restarted since. And yes the motherboard is a POS, I&#39;ve always known it was a POS, and I will be getting a nice new ASUS badass SE deluxe and a new psu to eliminate any future possibility of asking that question again.


anyways thanks for the help, I am sorry to have wasted everyone&#39;s time again :lol: but you can understand my situation. It affects about a million people on the &#39;net.


by the way...I never knew JUST how much of a piece of shit this board is, those forums are scaary, I really can&#39;t wait for my fucking paycheck :lol:.