Uk Confused

[hobbes]

You guys are always confusing me with all the little regional terms you have for one another.

Maybe you could use this map and your photoshop skills to outline where the "geordies", "mackerals" and "norven monkeys".

You could put an "x" on the map which marks where you are?

Ideally, I would like to see a "pinned topic" globe in which people could mark where they live.

For the moment I would like to see where you guys are from.

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And tell me a little something about the UK. Like from what cities do you leave to get to Ireland. Is it a bridge, tunnel or ferry?

[Cheese]

Geordies are from Newcastle and mackems are from Sunderland, both cities in the north-east. There is an intense football (soccer) rivalry between these two cities. (Even though we all now Newcastle pwn Sunderland.) :01:

I live in the south-west in Plymouth which is where the pilgrim fathers left from. :01:

Edit: People from Plymouth are called Janners (or by the more snobbish of us Janner fuck-wits), but I&#39;m not a Janner. <_<

[DanB]

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Thats where I am :D

[Rat Faced]

Geordies come from "Newcastle upon Tyne", on the North East Coast of Engand, about 70-80 miles from the Scottish Border, and is shown on your Map.

"Mackerals" (Actually Mackems) come from Sunderland, which is the closest city to Newcastle upon Tyne (about 12 miles away)... and is also shown on your Map.


You can get a cheap flight to Dublin from Newcastle.. I think its about £19 (&#036;35? )

[hobbes]

Originally posted by danb@11 July 2004 - 14:46
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Thats where I am :D
What are you called? Simply a Londoner?

[DanB]

Originally posted by hobbes+11 July 2004 - 17:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 11 July 2004 - 17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-danb@11 July 2004 - 14:46
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Thats where I am&nbsp; :D
What are you called? Simply a Londoner? [/b][/quote]
I have been called worse :lol:

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by hobbes+11 July 2004 - 16:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 11 July 2004 - 16:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-danb@11 July 2004 - 14:46
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Thats where I am&nbsp; :D
What are you called? Simply a Londoner? [/b][/quote]
I have a few more colourful terms, but then id have to Moderate myself... :ph34r:

[SillyRumours]

here is RF&#39;s diagram from another topic, indicating the divides

I live in Surrey, where everyone is posh but don&#39;t realise it, except people from Croyden who are just twats

http://img44.exs.cx/img44/2076/UK.jpg

[DanB]

Originally posted by Rat Faced+11 July 2004 - 17:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rat Faced &#064; 11 July 2004 - 17:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by hobbes@11 July 2004 - 16:49
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Thats where I am&nbsp; :D
What are you called? Simply a Londoner?
I have a few more colourful terms, but then id have to Moderate myself... :ph34r: [/b][/quote]
Hmm, I thought you might :lol: :lol:


edit - i live sort of London/Surrey (Sutton) :ph34r:

[Biggles]

The word Jocks has, I think, different connotations in the USA.

Suffice it to say that Jocks in the UK relates to we colourful and friendly Scottish people. By large when I lived in Bath for a few years I prefered Jock to Haggis (or Scottish bastard come to think of it :blink: )

[Rat Faced]

Danb,

London is so big its hard to find a word to describe everyone.

Cockney doesnt, they&#39;re only part of the population of the city..


Why would you think i&#39;d try hard to be nasty about Londoners? :blink:










Its the whole of the South i hate :P



@ Biggles,

We&#39;ll stop calling you Jocks, as soon as that border gets moved 100 miles or so south.... like i&#39;ve been asking all these years ;)

[hobbes]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@11 July 2004 - 14:48
Geordies come from "Newcastle upon Tyne", on the North East Coast of Engand, about 70-80 miles from the Scottish Border, and is shown on your Map.

"Mackerals" (Actually Mackems) come from Sunderland, which is the closest city to Newcastle upon Tyne (about 12 miles away)... and is also shown on your Map.


You can get a cheap flight to Dublin from Newcastle.. I think its about £19 (&#036;35? )
Wow, your rivalries are very intimate. It reminds me of our highschool rivalries, very local. I bet this leads to lots of drunken fights.

In the US, professional sports rivalries are much more spread out. Growing up in St. Louis, the closest rival I cared about was Chicago, about 500 km away.

http://pw1.netcom.com/~gpatch/mcgwire.jpghttp://pw1.netcom.com/~gpatch/sosa.jpg

Just for scale, the entire UK could fit into Nevada.

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[vidcc]

Originally posted by SillyRumours@11 July 2004 - 09:55
except people from Croyden who are just twats


but at least they can spell it :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Rat Faced]

Hobbes,

Just be glad we dont switch between Great Britain and UK... as they are, strictly speaking, different entities... :ph34r:

[RGX]

I&#39;m pretty near where DanB lives. :lol:

[Gemby!]

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:helpsmile:

[j2k4]

I&#39;m still waiting for a "norven Monkey" to respond. :huh:

[Biggles]

Gemby

Is the red thing a whale?

And what have you written over the Hebrides?

[Cheese]

Originally posted by RGX@11 July 2004 - 17:11
I&#39;m pretty near where DanB lives. :lol:
Stalker :ph34r:

@j2k4: Northern monkeys are anyone who live in the north of england, RF, Bo, etc.

[RGX]

Originally posted by Biggles@11 July 2004 - 17:19
Gemby

Is the red thing a whale?

And what have you written over the Hebrides?
The red thing is a kiss mark I beleive and the writing says Scots.

@ Cheese: You&#39;re next lover-boy....:ph34r:

[Cheese]

Originally posted by RGX+11 July 2004 - 17:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RGX @ 11 July 2004 - 17:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Biggles@11 July 2004 - 17:19
Gemby

Is the red thing a whale?

And what have you written over the Hebrides?
The red thing is a kiss mark I beleive and the writing says Scots.

@ Cheese: You&#39;re next lover-boy....:ph34r: [/b][/quote]
You&#39;ll find me in Arcadia&#39;s closet. :blink:

[Biggles]

Ok

Scots I could read.

However, Lips and m wah sort of make sense.

[Rat Faced]

Well, during the Napoleonic Wars a French Ship sank of the coast of Hartlepool (about 50 miles south of Newcastle), the only survivor being a monkey that the French must have had as a Mascot of some type.

Never having seen or heard of Monkeys, and never having seen any Frenchmen...assumed the Monkey was a French Spy and hung it.

We have been taking the piss for 200 years...


I assume the southerners have expanded this to include the whole of the North.

;)

[RGX]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@11 July 2004 - 17:25
Well, during the Napoleonic Wars a French Ship sank of the coast of Hartlepool (about 50 miles south of Newcastle), the only survivor being a monkey that the French must have had as a Mascot of some type.

Never having seen or heard of Monkeys, and never having seen any Frenchmen...assumed the Monkey was a French Spy and hung it.

We have been taking the piss for 200 years...


I assume the southerners have expanded this to include the whole of the North.

;)
Yup. :lol:

We love expansion, its why we have culture. :P

[hobbes]

Originally posted by Biggles@11 July 2004 - 15:03
The word Jocks has, I think, different connotations in the USA.

Suffice it to say that Jocks in the UK relates to we colourful and friendly Scottish people. By large when I lived in Bath for a few years I prefered Jock to Haggis (or Scottish bastard come to think of it&nbsp; :blink: )
Yes Biggles. A Jock is the opposite of a geek/nerd seen here for reference:

http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_movie/usa/revengenerds.JPG


A Jock is the muscular good looking athlete who is popular with ladies:


http://digilander.libero.it/silviodr/ogre.jpg


So an American looking at that the labeled map provided by SillyRumors would assume that the person was saying that all the good soccer players come from Scotland.

I&#39;m not sure that was the intent.

[Snee]

...all the good soccer players come from Scotland.

I&#39;m fairly certain not even the scots would agree with that, no offense.

[Cheese]

Though mostly about accents this is a pretty good read:

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/British_English

[Gemby!]

Originally posted by Biggles@11 July 2004 - 17:19
Gemby

Is the red thing a whale?

And what have you written over the Hebrides?
paint isnt my speciality :lol:

[Biggles]

Originally posted by hobbes+11 July 2004 - 17:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 11 July 2004 - 17:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Biggles@11 July 2004 - 15:03
The word Jocks has, I think, different connotations in the USA.

Suffice it to say that Jocks in the UK relates to we colourful and friendly Scottish people. By large when I lived in Bath for a few years I prefered Jock to Haggis (or Scottish bastard come to think of it :blink: )
Yes Biggles. A Jock is the opposite of a geek/nerd seen here for reference:

http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_movie/usa/revengenerds.JPG


A Jock is the muscular good looking athlete who is popular with ladies:


http://digilander.libero.it/silviodr/ogre.jpg


So an American looking at that the labeled map provided by SillyRumors would assume that the person was saying that all the good soccer players come from Scotland.

I&#39;m not sure that was the intent. [/b][/quote]
Alas not these days

:lol:

There was a time not so long ago when that would not have been so far from the truth.

However, I suspect there is one element missing from your description of US Jocks (if movies I have seen are to be believed) and that is the brain capacity of a retarded sauropod. This would not go down well with the somewhat traditional outlook of educational institutes in Scotland.

[Proper Bo]

I be living here.........
(not EXACT, but close enough)
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And now a word from Zidane..
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[DanB]

RGX is that you by the dustbin? :unsure: :ph34r:

[RGX]

Originally posted by danb@11 July 2004 - 17:37
RGX is that you by the dustbin? :unsure: :ph34r:
No, I think you&#39;ll find its an owl.....listen carefully...


*RGX hoots enthusiastically*

[DanB]

The worrying thing is that there is a bird outside the window :blink:

[RGX]

Originally posted by danb@11 July 2004 - 17:40
The worrying thing is that there is a bird outside the window :blink:
:lol:




*RGX reminds himself to buy more animatronics*

[DanB]

Its gone now :01:

[RGX]

*Area cleared, mission accomplished*

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Withcheese+11 July 2004 - 12:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Withcheese @ 11 July 2004 - 12:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RGX@11 July 2004 - 17:11
I&#39;m pretty near where DanB lives. :lol:
Stalker :ph34r:

@j2k4: Northern monkeys are anyone who live in the north of england, RF, Bo, etc. [/b][/quote]
Ah.

It&#39;s all clear now. ;)

[Proper Bo]

Originally posted by j2k4+11 July 2004 - 18:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 11 July 2004 - 18:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Withcheese@11 July 2004 - 12:21
<!--QuoteBegin-RGX@11 July 2004 - 17:11
I&#39;m pretty near where DanB lives. :lol:
Stalker :ph34r:

@j2k4: Northern monkeys are anyone who live in the north of england, RF, Bo, etc.
Ah.

It&#39;s all clear now. ;) [/b][/quote]
If you look carefully, you can see me on my map (i&#39;m very tall) ;)

[brenda]

the &#39;northern monkey&#39;s&#39; southern counterpart is generally know &#39;oop north&#39; as a &#39;southern bummer&#39;. although to those without any grasp of the general context of this expression&#39;s use it could quite possibly seem homophobic and reactionary, it is actually more often than not deployed with much more with and intellignece (sic) than those it describes.

your common or garden &#39;southern bummer&#39; may dispute this, and patronisingly evoke images of cobbled streets, hovis n. a type of bread consumed largely by people in flat caps who work down coal mines, george formby and all-round orwellian bleakness. but don&#39;t listen to them. london is their home (because to your average northern monkey london IS the south), and it is in this cultural hotbed of confusion, misunderstanding, isolation and post-millenial sodium-glow despair that all that is foul with the uk is hatched, eg, the queen/ monarchy, the metropolitan police, the government, the mainstream media, tottenham hotspurs, the met bar, z-list celebrities, etc. and do you even know how much a pint of best bitter costs down south?

the north, while still tightly in the grip of abject decay, is a far more honourable place/ headspace. and don&#39;t argue with me. coz northerners are famously much harder than southerners.

[Proper Bo]

Originally posted by brenda@11 July 2004 - 18:50
the &#39;northern monkey&#39;s&#39; southern counterpart is generally know &#39;oop north&#39; as a &#39;southern bummer&#39;. although to those without any grasp of the general context of this expression&#39;s use it could quite possibly seem homophobic and reactionary, it is actually more often than not deployed with much more with and intellignece (sic) than those it describes.

your common or garden &#39;southern bummer&#39; may dispute this, and patronisingly evoke images of cobbled streets, hovis n. a type of bread consumed largely by people in flat caps who work down coal mines, george formby and all-round orwellian bleakness. but don&#39;t listen to them. london is their home (because to your average northern monkey london IS the south), and it is in this cultural hotbed of confusion, misunderstanding, isolation and post-millenial sodium-glow despair that all that is foul with the uk is hatched, eg, the queen/ monarchy, the metropolitan police, the government, the mainstream media, tottenham hotspurs, the met bar, z-list celebrities, etc. and do you even know how much a pint of best bitter costs down south?

the north, while still tightly in the grip of abject decay, is a far more honourable place/ headspace. and don&#39;t argue with me. coz northerners are famously much harder than southerners.
Are yee caalin my pint a puff like? :angry:

:01:

[hobbes]

Do the people of Ireland not have computers yet?

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@11 July 2004 - 12:25

Never having seen or heard of Monkeys, and never having seen any Frenchmen...assumed the Monkey was a French Spy and hung it.


And who could blame them, right? ;)

They obviously just went with what they did/didn&#39;t know, sounds to me.

And to be continually taken to task for it? :huh:

Most regrettful. :(

[Biggles]

Originally posted by hobbes@11 July 2004 - 17:53
Do the people of Ireland not have computers yet?
Chalice is of Irish persuasion


The rest are all too busy drinking Guiness

[121]

Originally posted by RGX@11 July 2004 - 17:11
I&#39;m pretty near where DanB lives. :lol:
Me too ;)

[DanB]

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I&#39;m pretty near where DanB lives. :lol:
Me too ;) [/b][/quote]
:01:


Where? :unsure:

[ck-uk]

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[BILLY-THE-FISH]

I live in Surrey, near danb too&#33;&#33;
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[DanB]

Originally posted by BILLY&#045;THE&#045;FISH@11 July 2004 - 23:07
I live in Surrey, near danb too&#33;&#33;
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All these people near me :01: :01:

[Gemby!]

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All these people near me :01: :01: [/b][/quote]
im near you too &#33;&#33;&#33;

scary :ph34r:

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by danb+11 July 2004 - 22:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (danb &#064; 11 July 2004 - 22:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-BILLY&#045;THE&#045;FISH@11 July 2004 - 23:07
I live in Surrey, near danb too&#33;&#33;
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All these people near me :01: :01: [/b][/quote]
Not surprising considering nearly 20% of the population of the entire UK lives in the Greater London area :P

[BILLY-THE-FISH]

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I live in Surrey, near danb too&#33;&#33;
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All these people near me :01: :01: [/b][/quote]
More like you and all these peeps near ME&#33; danb :rolleyes:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[121]

Danb,

I&#39;m about 8 stops from you on the 151 or the 213 :lol:

[DanB]

Originally posted by 121@12 July 2004 - 02:50
Danb,

I&#39;m about 8 stops from you on the 151 or the 213 :lol:
:o

Damn close then :01:

[121]

It&#39;s a small world :D

[DanB]

Sure is. I don&#39;t really know the bus routes though :unsure:

[vidcc]

Just to add to the confusion hobbes a scotsman or "jock" is often refered to as a "sweaty sock". I have no definate idea where this originated however one possibility is that it is "cockney" rhyming slang.


by the way...cockneys don&#39;t talk like dick van dyke in mary poppins :lol: :lol: :lol:

[clocker]

Originally posted by vidcc@11 July 2004 - 21:57



by the way...cockneys don&#39;t talk like dick van dyke in mary poppins :lol: :lol: :lol:
If they were smart they would learn.

Everyone loves Dick Van Dyke.

[Mr. Mulder]

Originally posted by Withcheese+11 July 2004 - 17:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Withcheese @ 11 July 2004 - 17:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by RGX@11 July 2004 - 17:23
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Gemby

Is the red thing a whale?

And what have you written over the Hebrides?
The red thing is a kiss mark I beleive and the writing says Scots.

@ Cheese: You&#39;re next lover-boy....:ph34r:
You&#39;ll find me in Arcadia&#39;s closet. :blink: [/b][/quote]
wtf? :unsure:

[Proper Bo]

I think it&#39;s lynx who just lives around teh corner from me :ph34r:

[Snee]

Originally posted by Biggles+11 July 2004 - 19:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Biggles @ 11 July 2004 - 19:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@11 July 2004 - 17:53
Do the people of Ireland not have computers yet?
Chalice is of Irish persuasion


The rest are all too busy drinking Guiness [/b][/quote]
Pah&#33; cultural stereotyping that is.

Bet they have other kinds of beer in Ireland.

[AussieSheila]

Fuck you

[Snee]

Originally posted by AussieSheila@12 July 2004 - 19:44
Fuck you
What again?

[DanB]

Originally posted by SnnY+12 July 2004 - 19:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SnnY @ 12 July 2004 - 19:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-AussieSheila@12 July 2004 - 19:44
Fuck you
What again? [/b][/quote]
Must be in heat :lol:

[Mathea]

if its heat like a normal bitch watch out she&#39;ll be bleeding for awhile