Insomnia

[Anabelle]

I haven't seen a disfunctional family in years. Why do I say this? Because we're all in the same boat, with the same stories, of the same Christmas dinner every year. We all know what it's like to watch mom and dad fight over money, hear dad yell when the new puppy pisses on the floor again, have your aunts argue over who was right in 1964. I don't think it's even a matter of question whether Sandy actually wants those good marks and that place as the cheerleading captain or it's her mother Nacy watching so snidely which pushes her to do it all. I don't think it's a question anymore of why daddy spends so much time at the office working with his new secretary and why they just don't go ahead and fuck on the dining room table in front of the whole family.
There are no questios of who's wrong anymore, it's not even a mystery that we all are. I still have some questions though. Whatever happened to the Brady Buch familes and the leave it to Beavers? Did they all overdose many years ago when their seaons were cancelled and the cash stopped flowing?
With so much understanding floating around why can't it sink in on a father when he hears his daughter's knocked up, or on a mother when she finds out her son does weed? Do they forget the fear, and the release and the cries for help? But what about the kids who get knocked up and do the weed. Have they forgotten the values they were told to know and love? Did they forget that they're supposed to love Jesus without a cause? Or did it just come early to realize that no one gives a fuck anymore? Another Sunday, another forced belief, another fake smile. We're so used to it that we go nuumb when it happens. We sit and watch while everything we've come to believe is ate away by obligation. How we plug our ears and hum when introduced to a rational thought and chant " hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Knowledge is what damned us in the first place so I'm not taking that chance again".
We're both sinning as you read this and as I type. I've sinned a million times over already this morning. So what's to happen to me and my salvation? Apparently I have to have an invitation to experience it and the mail man's already too late. It's not even that I have a choice in the matter. The prophecy's already been writen and I'm not the hero of the story. But apparently I still have free will just as long as it fits along with everything I'm told to do.
God's a control freak and it's as simple as that. God's the kind of guy who always gets his way and if not he goes on a tantrum till we hand over the goods. He's the kid in the supermarket who everyone wants to kill. I don't question it...I know. NO offence to him but we haven't gotten along for a while.
Me and God, we used to be pretty tight. Call him twice a day tell him what I fucked up and what he should fix....he was a good listener but he never really gave a shit. It was a one way relationship of what I have to do to make him happy.....I knew it wasn't going to work between us mostly because after fifteen years of calling he never called back. Jesus wasn't as bad. He knew what it was like to have no control over what would happen but he was a real doormat. Lucifer wasn't crazy.... he was just fucked up. Held a lot of grudges and thought everyone was against him. Mostly Gods fault if you ask me.
Yeah I used to know them all but they all slowly turned into something I didn't understand. Apparently God isnt' so loving on the other side of the world. Actually he's an all out prick. He's pretty choosy about who he wants to be around but try and tell that to him. I guess I saw God as a father figure for a while. That was before he let me down with his mixed messages and his hypocritical ways. I think a lot of it rubbed off on me.
I think religion is like cartoon shows. Some people grow out of them while others never do and that's just something we'll have to accept. Maybe someday they'll take a long look at that screen and realize it's all immature and maybe after that long look they'll clap and ask for more. Funny thing about people is that they can change at any time.
So maybe there are more questions then just the ones I mentioned but so what? The great thing about me not talking about them is that you get to figure them out for yourself. Not everyone has the same priorities as the next person and that's what makes a person who they are. Just have fun figuring out who you are along the way.

[tracydani]

Wow.

TD

[Snee]

Sorry, too busy sinning to read that mess of a text block.

And btw, Thorazine- look into it.

[ElvisLover]

I used to find it was down to too much amphetamines :rolleyes:

[hobbes]

Originally posted by SnnY@13 July 2004 - 18:31
Sorry, too busy sinning to read that mess of a text block.

And btw, Thorazine- look into it.
It is called a "word brick".

I think I'll wait for the movie.

[elitek]

Give me a break, I just wanna download the hottest song and movie with my kazaa lite 2.43, and after that, I will go to sleep
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[Anabelle]

I wrote that when I was suffering from insomnia (hence the title of the thread) due to some hard times I was going through. But while thinking of it I realized that everyone at some point in their life has gone through the exact same troubles. Every family has problems and anyone who says theirs doesn't is lying. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Actually it's best to get it out of the way and get past it. Or that's the way I see it anyways.

[elitek]

Originally posted by Anabelle@14 July 2004 - 04:02
I wrote that when I was suffering from insomnia (hence the title of the thread) due to some hard times I was going through. But while thinking of it I realized that everyone at some point in their life has gone through the exact same troubles. Every family has problems and anyone who says theirs doesn't is lying. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Actually it's best to get it out of the way and get past it. Or that's the way I see it anyways.
can't you realize there is no god in nature? if there is no human, there is no God. God is just the production of human beings' inferiority and fear. Every problem of yours is the effect of your own action. some come immediately, some come later. so you are not only responsible for yourself you are responsible for the society, when you realize everything is regulated by the nature law of cause and effect(think about it carefully, nothing is independent), you understand the reason doing good deed, not for god, but for yourself and others. the quality of joy helping others who need help is the best if you have ever done that and compared the joy with other joys such playing video games carefully. I learned these from Buddhism.

well, I am not that great state of mind though I know it.

[Snee]

Originally posted by elitek+14 July 2004 - 05:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (elitek @ 14 July 2004 - 05:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Anabelle@14 July 2004 - 04:02
I wrote that when I was suffering from insomnia (hence the title of the thread) due to some hard times I was going through. But while thinking of it I realized that everyone at some point in their life has gone through the exact same troubles. Every family has problems and anyone who says theirs doesn&#39;t is lying. It&#39;s nothing to be ashamed of. Actually it&#39;s best to get it out of the way and get past it. Or that&#39;s the way I see it anyways.
can&#39;t you realize there is no god in nature? if there is no human, there is no God. God is just the production of human beings&#39; inferiority and fear. Every problem of yours is the effect of your own action. some come immediately, some come later. so you are not only responsible for yourself you are responsible for the society, when you realize everything is regulated by the nature law of cause and effect(think about it carefully, nothing is independent), you understand the reason doing good deed, not for god, but for yourself and others. the quality of joy helping others who need help is the best if you have ever done that and compared the joy with other joys such playing video games carefully. I learned these from Buddhism.

well, I am not that great state of mind though I know it. [/b][/quote]
Now you are just getting all technical.

[elitek]

its the only way I can control my emotion

I found out most of the emotions are useless especially anger and hatred even love
they are the reasons of why people get involved into this world and the causes of inequality, "I love watching movie, I like this movie I don&#39;t like that movie" actually, if you are not interested in watching movie, you will have no comment or discrimination on both movies. yep, all of us discriminate unless you lose your emotion

emotionless is not indifference, one can be caring while he&#39;s emtionless, if you are indifferent, you are no more than a walking stone, according to cause and effect, you will be ingored by others. only when you are emotionless but caring, you will be cared. no one can ever evade the nature law. what is nature? nature itself doesn&#39;t have emotion, to understand it, you will have to lose all your emotion. it seems difficult but its possible.

[elitek]

my advice is: when you have a problem just examine it with the law of cause and effect(don&#39;t choose two events or more are too irrelevant, because they are in indirect relationship which you can hardly relate them together), the explanation of god is obvioulsy ridiculous and examination of your brain is no more better than than.

[lynx]

Originally posted by Anabelle@14 July 2004 - 04:02
I wrote that when I was suffering from insomnia (hence the title of the thread) due to some hard times I was going through. But while thinking of it I realized that everyone at some point in their life has gone through the exact same troubles. Every family has problems and anyone who says theirs doesn&#39;t is lying. It&#39;s nothing to be ashamed of. Actually it&#39;s best to get it out of the way and get past it. Or that&#39;s the way I see it anyways.
I don&#39;t have problems with my family.

Not any more.





However, I am having problems with my chainsaw, any suggestions?

[elitek]

Originally posted by lynx@14 July 2004 - 16:30
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However, I am having problems with my chainsaw, any suggestions?
are you living in Texas? have you watched the movie

[Anabelle]

It&#39;s supposed to be ridiculous....that&#39;s the point. Life is ruled by what people are told they should do rather then what they want to do all because of an irrational belief of a god they can&#39;t prove exists thus living out of fear. Also I&#39;m trying to approach the thought of god a different way to prove our way of going about it is ludicris. Also you speak of things that are painfully evident. If someone can&#39;t realize that every action has a concicene then they must be an idiot. I do nothing for god but rather for people. I think of my actions before doing so since even the smallest things can cause the biggeset concicence. Also you&#39;re right most emotion is useless. It would be far more productive to do away with them all. Problem is that there are chemicals in the brain which mix to make these emotions and in order to control emotion you must control the chemicals. You make your wording seem technical when your message is simple.

[thewizeard]

Great thoughts here Anabelle, ...and elitek.

[Gemby!]

its a good thread with a good opinion - i may not agree with it but i think you wrote it well .. a few more spaces and it would&#39;ve been better :P

but well done :)

[hobbes]

Originally posted by lynx@14 July 2004 - 14:30
Or that&#39;s the way I see it anyways.
I don&#39;t have problems with my family.

Not any more.

Did you correct them, lynx?

http://www.drummerman.net/shining/bathroom.jpg
Jack: Mr. Grady. You were the caretaker here. I recognize ya. I saw your picture in the newspapers. You, uh, chopped your wife and daughters up into little bits. And then you blew your brains out.
Grady: That&#39;s strange, sir. I don&#39;t have any recollection of that at all.
Jack: Mr. Grady. You were the caretaker here.
Grady: I&#39;m sorry to defer with you, sir. But you are the caretaker. You&#39;ve always been the caretaker. I should know, sir. I&#39;ve always been here.

http://www.drummerman.net/shining/grady.jpg
Grady on discipline (http://161.58.5.90/shining/correctd.wav)

[Biggles]

Annabelle

Have you been watching Foamy the Squirrel? I kind of expected your piece to finish "Needles in the eyes&#33;&#33;"


I am told my own family was extremely dysfunctional and perhaps it was, but mostly I recall the good times (although these are moveable feasts I know)


With regards religion, I guess we feel comfortable with what we know. Rather than one belief system actually holding any real intellectual sway you can pretty much determine what someone believes by checking on a map where you are. Obviously there are exceptions. I was raised in fairly Pagan background (it is a family thing - we are very nice really. Lynx you need an oil bath for the chain saw :blink: ) However, I think it is healthy to look at what we believe and why we believe it. There is nothing actually wrong in saying I don&#39;t believe this literally, but it helps me focus on time, place and others to have this spiritual dimension in my life.

However, I always rather liked the old Roy Harper song that went along the lines of

The history of religion is the history of the state
Incestuous exploiters of love, death, hate
the man of peace was overrun by armies of the Lord
who signed their names to any war
and sang to praise the sword

An interesting song if not exactly one of his more cheerful.

It is always a good idea to keep separate religion and faith. A faithful person usually has little to do with religion or its banal and venal obsessions with control over individuals in this life. Least that is my view for what it is worth. :)