Heatsink For Friend

[bigdawgfoxx]

Hey. My friend and I are building him a new computer. He already has a mouse, keyboard, speakers, 17in LCD, HDD, graphics card, power supply.

All we need is a board, ram, cpu, and heatsink. We are gona get an A7N8X, mobile 2500XP...now we need a great heatsink..he has $900 but were only spendin like 500 max. So we got about 60ish to spend so im thinking the SP-97 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-109-113&depa=0) Would that work good with a mobile 2500xp?

[Virtualbody1234]

Why not get the retail package Barton 2500+? Comes with CPU cooler.

That is a very nice heatsink (SP-97) but you also need a fan for it.

[bigdawgfoxx]

The mobile retail doesnt come with a heatsink does it...? And he wants to overclock it alot...so the sp97 would be great...and it will fit right?

[clocker]

How about the SP-120?

[Super Dude]

Zalman's 7000A-CU should be good too.

Why not go for Abit NF7-S instead of A7N8X?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by clocker@16 July 2004 - 17:08
How about the SP-120?
I cant find that on newegg.... or the thermalright website..they have an xp 120...but it doesnt look as good..its silver so i dont think its coper...but it could be.

Isnt the sp 97 thermalrights the best heatsinks there are tho...for cooling?

Will it work with the mobile 2500?

And we are getin an A7N8X-E Deluxe

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@16 July 2004 - 17:03


Isnt the sp 97 thermalrights the best heatsinks there are tho...for cooling?

Will it work with the mobile 2500?


No they are not.
It's a fine sink, but not "the best".
The 120's will be released very soon.
If your board has mounting holes around the socket it should fit.
I believe that TR's website has a mobo compatability list.

[Virtualbody1234]

Why the mobile?

Less performance with lower FSB of only 266MHz.

The non mobile Barton 2500+ is better suited for non modile use.

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@16 July 2004 - 19:01
Why the mobile?

Less performance with lower FSB of only 266MHz.

The non mobile Barton 2500+ is better suited for non modile use.
people have been able to oc them almost to 3 GHZ and most on air cooling.

[mattesca]

Hey, this is bigdawgfoxx's friend Matt..I just registered.

The reason Iam getting the mobile is because it is unlocked and is pretty easy to get to 2.4 or 2.5Ghz

If the sp-97 isnt the best then is the sp-120? I dont see it on their site, also when should it be out?

Behind the sp-120 is the sp-97 the best?

[clocker]

Depends on the review that you read.
Several other sinks have bested the TRs in different reviews.

The 120 should be released soon.

[mattesca]

But the thermalrights are all coper, and huge...I wouldnt think anything would top them except maybe the swiftechs that are like 90 bucks.

When are the 120s supposed to be realeased? And will the sp-97 and sp-120 both fit on a mobile 2500XP? The Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe will have the mounting holes so it should be fine. What is the price of the 120s supposed to be?

BTW this is bigdawgfoxx

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by mattesca@16 July 2004 - 23:20
When are the 120s supposed to be realeased? And will the sp-97 and sp-120 both fit on a mobile 2500XP? The Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe will have the mounting holes so it should be fine. What is the price of the 120s supposed to be?
The SP-120 is souly P4 based as far as I know, there is probably a version coming out for AMD though, possibly the xp120 which clocker mentioned?

PS: your one sick guy...

[tesco]

Originally posted by mattesca@16 July 2004 - 22:20
But the thermalrights are all coper, and huge...I wouldnt think anything would top them except maybe the swiftechs that are like 90 bucks.

When are the 120s supposed to be realeased?  And will the sp-97 and sp-120 both fit on a mobile 2500XP?  The Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe will have the mounting holes so it should be fine.  What is the price of the 120s supposed to be?

BTW this is bigdawgfoxx

Here is my friend luke,
i would like to know when the new arnold swaregnader dildo 399's are coming out they will run at 19 mhz and is 18 inches the biggest and baddest of the market.
I know me and fox will get as many as we can as they hit the following stores Circuit city, Best Buy,  Newegg.com, and Walmart  ;)  :lol:

:zorro:  :hug:  :inlove:  :lips:  :smilie3
WTF? :lol:

[clocker]

Originally posted by Tormentor+16 July 2004 - 19:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tormentor &#064; 16 July 2004 - 19:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@16 July 2004 - 19:01
Why the mobile?

Less performance with lower FSB of only 266MHz.

The non mobile Barton 2500+ is better suited for non modile use.
people have been able to oc them almost to 3 GHZ and most on air cooling. [/b][/quote]
I find that hard to believe.

Check that....

Impossible to believe.

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by clocker+17 July 2004 - 00:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 17 July 2004 - 00:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Tormentor@16 July 2004 - 19:02
<!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@16 July 2004 - 19:01
Why the mobile?

Less performance with lower FSB of only 266MHz.

The non mobile Barton 2500+ is better suited for non modile use.
people have been able to oc them almost to 3 GHZ and most on air cooling.
I find that hard to believe.

Check that....

Impossible to believe. [/b][/quote]
Most do hit the 2.5Ghz to 2.6Ghz range though...

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by clocker+16 July 2004 - 21:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker &#064; 16 July 2004 - 21:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Tormentor@16 July 2004 - 19:02
<!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@16 July 2004 - 19:01
Why the mobile?

Less performance with lower FSB of only 266MHz.

The non mobile Barton 2500+ is better suited for non modile use.
people have been able to oc them almost to 3 GHZ and most on air cooling.
I find that hard to believe.

Check that....

Impossible to believe. [/b][/quote]
Maybe I exagerated a bit but people have been able to reach 2.9 or 2.8 on watercooling though.

[mattesca]

haha yah that wasnt luke that was ben talkin earlier...hes just jelious cuz he dont know bout computers like me and matt.

To get the story straight...The name I am on right now is my friend Matts that we just got tonight..and then my friends were fuckin round...we are on matts computer.

His current computer is a P4 2.0Ghz (overclocked to 2.4 by me) 512mb ram, 120GB hdd fx5600.

He dont play many games so were just upgradin ram mobo cpu case

The XP-120 is on the site that I mentioned...but I dont see anything about an sp-120.

Ok...what heatsink is like the best for a mobile 2500XP? I thought the SP-97 was...but w/e yall say ;) So whats like the best one?

Edit: The XP-120 is for both AMD and Intel.

The XP-120 is a lot smaller then the sp-94..so wouldnt that be worse or what? It dont look like its coper either..

AMD: Athlon64 FX 3200+/Athlon64 3200+ and above
Intel: Pentium-4 socket-478 3.2 GHz and above

Those are the specs on the page...would they even fit on a socket a?

[Virtualbody1234]

Why don&#39;t you guys make it easier for us to help you?

Post links and pictures to products you discuss: http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_xp120.htm


The XP 120 looks a lot bigger than the SP-94 to me:
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This image might, though. No, that&#39;s not some new heatpipe chipset cooler on the left. That&#39;s actually a full scale, big as life Thermalright SP-94. NOW you know why it&#39;s called the XP-120. This cooler is the first one we&#39;ve seen to utilize a 120mm fan as its native unit, without an adapter. Don&#39;t let the sheer size fool you though. Even though it dwarfs the SP-94 in size, its primarily aluminum construction (the base and heat pipes are nickel plated copper) makes it feel feather-light, which it almost is, comparatively speaking, weighing in at almost 220 grams less than the SP-94.


Looks like the XP-120 isn&#39;t for the AMD XP after all. Not sure about this.

AMD: Athlon64 FX 3200+/Athlon64 3200+ and above
Intel: Pentium-4 socket-478 3.2 GHz and above

[mattesca]

Yeah, but we dont want the sp-94 we are getting the xp-97.

I dont think it is for the XP series like you said..

What is the Xp 120 made of?

I think we will just go with the SP-97...which I was asking if it would work with mobile and noone has said if it would..but im pretty sure it would...thanks for your help.

[Virtualbody1234]

Multiple heatpipes for well spread heat around aluminum fins

I still think it&#39;s bigger than the xp-97. Fits a 120mm fan vs. 92mm. :)

[mattesca]

Yeah it is bigger your right, I just dont need the XP-120, I like the copper look of the XP-97

If I could find a XP-120 for a low price then I would get it instead.


Again thanks for all yalls help...


But I dont know if it will fit the Athlon XP :unsure:

[Virtualbody1234]

Check this out: http://www.systemcooling2.com/forums/index...indpost&p=20850 (http://www.systemcooling2.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2502&view=findpost&p=20850)

http://www.thermaltake.com/images/coolers/cl-p0019fanless103/cl-p0019.jpg

http://www.thermaltake.com/images/coolers/cl-p0019fanless103/InstalledView.jpg

I thought that clocker might be interested in this.

[mattesca]

That looks pretty cool, but the XP-120 would have better peformence

[clocker]

Originally posted by mattesca@16 July 2004 - 23:01
That looks pretty cool, but the XP-120 would have better peformence
And you base that opinion on what?

VB,
I have seen that beast before but have yet to see a review.
Air cooled sinks are reaching the point , both in sheer size and weight, that water cooling looks like the most rational solution.
After all, it&#39;s good to draw the heat away from the chip/socket with one of these beasts, but then you still have to evacuate the heat from the case itself..

[Shiranai_Baka]

So use fans =P

[clocker]

Oh. OK.

Gee, I never would have thought of that.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by clocker+17 July 2004 - 06:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker &#064; 17 July 2004 - 06:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mattesca@16 July 2004 - 23:01
That looks pretty cool, but the XP-120 would have better peformence
And you base that opinion on what?

VB,
I have seen that beast before but have yet to see a review.
Air cooled sinks are reaching the point , both in sheer size and weight, that water cooling looks like the most rational solution.
After all, it&#39;s good to draw the heat away from the chip/socket with one of these beasts, but then you still have to evacuate the heat from the case itself.. [/b][/quote]
I was looking at the base where there is a flat copper surface. It seems to me that if there was a finned heatsink mounted right there it might improve it&#39;s performance. My idea being that some heat could be dissipated right at the base rather than going though the heatpipes. It would be interesting to do some testing of that theory. I think I&#39;ll keep a lookout for some reviews.

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[mattesca]

I have to go with the SP-97, because the XP-120 is for the Athlon 64

Is there any other heatsink on the market that will perform better than the SP-97 that is made for a Athlon XP??

[clocker]

My initial thought would be to do just the opposite.

Insulate the base and the exposed heatpipes so that more of the heat is carried up to the finned area.
It would be an interesting ( if semi-expensive) experiment though.


BTW, how&#39;s the back?

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by clocker@17 July 2004 - 07:39
BTW, how&#39;s the back?
Not too bad now. Still far from being comfortable. Thanks for asking.

In fact, I&#39;m on my way out to get it scanned this morning.

[mattesca]

Alright..this is bigdawgfoxx right now.

We will be orderin all this stuff in a week or 2. we will have like 10 fans we can use on the new computer and the sp-97, im thinking we can get it up to 2.4 or 2.5 at least. I will post a new thread when we get the whole thing done.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok...we want the best heatsink made pretty much...thats around 60 or 70 bucks...so what is it? If not the sp-97 then what do yall think is? Or has the best reviews?

This (http://xoxide.com/tower112.html) looks kinda crazy..but good lol

What bout This (http://xoxide.com/su4gthcoak7.html)? Thermaltakes peltier cooling..it comes with stuff to conect the red and black wires and a heatsink and everything...isnt this stuff like really good?

[Virtualbody1234]

Better ask clocker about that tower. He has some direct experience about that.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@17 July 2004 - 12:51
Better ask clocker about that tower. He has some direct experience about that.
Did he have it?

We just want the best for like under 100 bucks...so what is it? peltier would work? sp-97? is there something better?

[Virtualbody1234]

I don&#39;t know how good this one is: http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/case_cool...cool/hsf/ht101/ (http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/case_cool/aerocool/hsf/ht101/)



Clocker, check it out. This one has cooling fins on the base as I mentioned before.

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[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok..my thread..stop showing clocker stuff haha

What is yalls opinion on the best heatsink out there...we want the best..and I always thought the sp-97 or slk900 was it.