Cpu Max Temp.

[mattesca]

What is the max temp. a cpu can run at, full load, with out doing damage to itself?

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by mattesca@18 July 2004 - 18:02
What is the max temp. a cpu can run at, full load, with out doing damage to itself?
:frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
What chip?
Most chpis will have a safe protect feature that it will shut itself down at a certain temp. This temp can vary anywhere between 65C and 85C depending on the chip

[mattesca]

Well I just wanted a general range

I'm planing to OC a Athlon XP


thanks

[Virtualbody1234]

I would say stay under 60°C to be safe. If you can set an automatic shutdown with your motherboard then set it to shutdown at 65 or 70°C.

[Snee]

The question should be what temp it should hold when running.

T-birds and some xp's burn at 95c, some xp's at 85c, if I remember correctly.

But exact figures doesn't matter as you don't what it hit temps anywhere near that high.

If yours ran at 50c idle, I'd say that was a little bit hot.

[mattesca]

would most motherboards have that type of setting?

[Shiranai_Baka]

My XP 2600+ runs at 52 or 51 idling.. I thought that was normal? I'm not a big OC'er nor do I spend any money on cooling except that I have 4 case fans..

[Snee]

Originally posted by Shiranai_Baka@19 July 2004 - 01:14
My XP 2600+ runs at 52 or 51 idling.. I thought that was normal? I'm not a big OC'er nor do I spend any money on cooling except that I have 4 case fans..
I prefer to have mine run idle at least a bit below 50c, preferably below 40c. And around 50c at the very most under full load.

The ideal would be to have it run close to room temperature, but that requires a lot. At any rate, if it isn't OC'd 50c is definitely a bit high, but not a cause to worry (and probably quite normal).


What I want is to have it run no more than 5 degrees higher than my mobo, this is a personal preference tho'.

[Storm]

Originally posted by kaiweiler+18 July 2004 - 23:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kaiweiler &#064; 18 July 2004 - 23:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by mattesca@18 July 2004 - 18:02
What is the max temp. a cpu can run at, full load, with out doing damage to itself?
:frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
What chip?
Most chpis will have a safe protect feature that it will shut itself down at a certain temp. This temp can vary anywhere between 65C and 85C depending on the chip[/b]
that only with Intel&#39;s........... AMD doesnt have that feature :(


Originally posted by mattesca@18 July 2004 - 23:16
would most motherboards have that type of setting?
most decent motherboards, yes...... if you have an AMD, that your only protection :(

<!--QuoteBegin-Shiranai_Baka@19 July 2004 - 01:14
My XP 2600+ runs at 52 or 51 idling.. I thought that was normal? I&#39;m not a big OC&#39;er nor do I spend any money on cooling except that I have 4 case fans..[/quote]
right now i dont have my 2600+ OCed (will be doing so soon though ;))
it runs (load) @ 46 C

if yours runs idle @ 52, dont worry....... just watch the temps closely under full load...... an make sure you have the shutdown temps set

[Snee]

Originally posted by Storm+19 July 2004 - 13:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Storm @ 19 July 2004 - 13:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kaiweiler@18 July 2004 - 23:06
<!--QuoteBegin-mattesca@18 July 2004 - 18:02
What is the max temp. a cpu can run at, full load, with out doing damage to itself?
:frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
What chip?
Most chpis will have a safe protect feature that it will shut itself down at a certain temp. This temp can vary anywhere between 65C and 85C depending on the chip
that only with Intel&#39;s........... AMD doesnt have that feature :( [/b][/quote]
I thought the A64&#39;s did the thermal shutdown thing at 70c.

[Storm]

Originally posted by SnnY+19 July 2004 - 13:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SnnY @ 19 July 2004 - 13:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Storm@19 July 2004 - 13:01

Originally posted by kaiweiler@18 July 2004 - 23:06
<!--QuoteBegin-mattesca@18 July 2004 - 18:02
What is the max temp. a cpu can run at, full load, with out doing damage to itself?
:frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
What chip?
Most chpis will have a safe protect feature that it will shut itself down at a certain temp. This temp can vary anywhere between 65C and 85C depending on the chip
that only with Intel&#39;s........... AMD doesnt have that feature :(
I thought the A64&#39;s did the thermal shutdown thing at 70c. [/b][/quote]
never heard of that......... could very well be true though..... with CPU&#39;s that expensive, they SHOULD add that feature ;)

[Snee]

http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=22530


On-die thermal throttling

I guess they do. Good I suppose.

I wonder if all 64&#39;s have it, &#39;cos some aren&#39;t expensive nowadays.

[Storm]

3 - Posted on Jul 10, 2004 at 1:12 PM by coolred&nbsp; Reply
On-die thermal throttling, is that like cool N quiet or something else entirely?

4 - Posted on Jul 10, 2004 at 2:01 PM by murdmath&nbsp; Reply
It means that if your heatsink was to fall off it wouldn&#39;t fry your chip.

[Snee]

Er, yes :unsure:

It seems to be the same thing as on P4&#39;s, ie that it throttles the clockfrequency if it overheats, like it will if the cooling falls off. :unsure:

Better than the instant shutdown at 70c I thought they had at first.

[kaiweiler]

The regular Athlon XP&#39;s also have the thermal throttling option. this turns down the speed of your cpu if it is running too hot making it not work as hard and giving it time to cool down.
I have this option disabled and have my computer set to shutdown if my cpu temp raches past 65C.
So yes this option is also available for Athlon XP&#39;s

[Snee]

On-die?

[bigdawgfoxx]

The Asus board will come with a drive and utilities cd. It will include all the drivers, and a utitily called Asus Probe, which will display all the temps and fan speeds, and you can set warning levels for everything.

[tesco]

This guide shows: (http://139.95.253.214/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/,/?St=17,E=0000000000095810703,K=3801,Sxi=7,Case=obj(1224)) FSB
Multiplier
Names (like Athlon XP 2200+, etc.)
The different cores
VOltages
Max temps
etc.

[mattesca]

bgdawgfoxx - is the board im getting have that

[Storm]

if your getting the a7n8x it does yes......

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by mattesca@19 July 2004 - 10:36
bgdawgfoxx - is the board im getting have that
yeah.

Ill bring updated drivers and shit on a cd too

[mattesca]

ight

[abu_has_the_power]

amd&#39;s run hotter than p4s. it&#39;s always a good idea to keep it as low as possible.

[mattesca]

an Amd XP mobile will run cooler than a P4

Anyway how do u like ur SP-94?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Haha, me and Mattesca put chop sticks in the fan grills...good idea :unsure:

http://home.earthlink.net/~bigdawgfox2007/Broke%20Fan.jpg

Ended up breaking 4 blades off and shot them all through the case..then the whole case started vibrating wildly haha

Any body else got any crazy computer stories where they fucked stuff up :lol:

[mattesca]

Yes, bigdawgfoxx was the one that fucked it up.

[lynx]

What happened to the chop sticks?

Can you still catch flies with them? :lol:

[mattesca]

The chop sticks r fine didnt even crack them or nothing

they still work fine

[Storm]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@21 July 2004 - 02:19
Haha, me and Mattesca put chop sticks in the fan grills...good idea :unsure:

http://home.earthlink.net/~bigdawgfox2007/Broke%20Fan.jpg

Ended up breaking 4 blades off and shot them all through the case..then the whole case started vibrating wildly haha

Any body else got any crazy computer stories where they fucked stuff up :lol:
may i ask WHY???

drunk? wasted? a dare?

[mattesca]

we were lookin for something to do

haha

It was funny, but when I opened the case some of the fan was in the cpu heatsink and just about every were else

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by mattesca@20 July 2004 - 17:04
an Amd XP mobile will run cooler than a P4

Anyway how do u like ur SP-94?
my sp-94 is beastly. gets a bit dusty though. so i have to remove the fan and clean it every month or so. very good temps. rite now, my room temps like 30C ish, and my cpu is running 33C. not bad at all. in winter, it&#39;s 26-28C most of the time

[mattesca]

Just wanted to c how it preformed for u cause Im gettin the SP-97 for my Athlon XP

What r some more spec u have on the SP-94??

[abu_has_the_power]

wat specs do u mean? i think the 97 is basically the same, although u might get slightly higher temps depending on how far u oc with an amd and wat fan u put on there.

[mattesca]

nvm

thanks for the info though, what u think of the fan we broke

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by mattesca@21 July 2004 - 09:18
nvm

thanks for the info though, what u think of the fan we broke
lol. waste of a good fan. but fun nonetheless i&#39;m sure

[mattesca]

it was like a dollar, so i really didnt care

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah it was some cheap fan.

What are sleeve bearings? thats what they were.

[Duffman]

yeah what can you get for a dollar.... wait im remebering all those fast food and 10 10 220 commercials.

[Storm]

sleave bearing is a silent type of fan bearing........ trouble is, they die really quickly.....

[mattesca]

yes they die over time and by the use of chopsticks :lol:

[abu_has_the_power]

sleeve bearing uses axle grease/oil in between the fan the the axle/stick thingy. ball bearing/rifle bearing uses small metal balls. it&#39;s a bit louder, but it lasts much longer.

[Storm]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@21 July 2004 - 16:19
sleeve bearing uses axle grease/oil in between the fan the the axle/stick thingy. ball bearing/rifle bearing uses small metal balls. it&#39;s a bit louder, but it lasts much longer.
rifle bearing doesnt use balls, its a modified sleave bearing......

[mattesca]

so theres 3 types of bearings

[Storm]

no, there are really to basic types of bearings........... rifle bearing is a modification to sleave bearing......... not really a diffrent type, its only a diffrent type of bearing for marketing purposes......

but yeah, the rifle bearings are supposed to be the quietest, but last a lil longer than the sleave bearings......... of course they are more expensive.......

[mattesca]

ok i c

[abu_has_the_power]

so confused :wacko:

[mattesca]

i love to destroy shit with chopsticks :D

[Duffman]

anythign else besides fans?

[mattesca]

I broke my old video card and the front of my old case is jacked up

hmmmmmmm cant really think of anything else

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah, haha we took his case outside in the garage and dremeled it and cut holes in it and shit...it looks horrible haha but theres fan grills so you cant tell too much...then there just 2 big open holes in the back.

I agree with clocker, the dremel is not a very good tool.

[mattesca]

i agree too

needed a plasma cutter then got some serious shit done

[ck-uk]

Originally posted by Shiranai_Baka@19 July 2004 - 00:07
My XP 2600+ runs at 52 or 51 idling.. I thought that was normal? I&#39;m not a big OC&#39;er nor do I spend any money on cooling except that I have 4 case fans..
i would worry..mate.....last few mnths mine has run the same&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
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[mattesca]

QUOTE (Shiranai_Baka @ 19 July 2004 - 00:07)
My XP 2600+ runs at 52 or 51 idling.. I thought that was normal? I&#39;m not a big OC&#39;er nor do I spend any money on cooling except that I have 4 case fans..&nbsp;


4 case fans hmmm that should do the job and temp should be lower,

but 4 fans wont do shit if they aren&#39;t positioned right

check your setup and think about changeing it up to have better airflow, also do u clean the inside of ur case, dust conducts heat so get rid of all the dust