Urgent Electrical Help Required

[brenda]

Ok this is what just happened......

I walked home from work and its really hot so I want a shower. To turn the shower on I have to pull a cord that is attached to a little box on the ceiling and a little red light comes on, then I can turn the shower on. However, today the little red light did not come on and I therefore cannot turn the shower on. :angry:

To top it off someone has left the heating on all day and the house is like a sauna.

I have to get it working so I figure that I need to climb up to the little box unscrew the cover and have a look inside. My question is this............

Do I need to turn the electric off somwhere before I start fiddling with it???

[DanB]

Yes you do, there should be a switch in the same place as your 'leccy meter.

If the pull cord has gone though you will more than likely need a new one, time for a trip to B&Q ;)

[lynx]

More likely the problem is one of those switches down by the electric meter (assuming you've got circuit breakers) or a fuse in the fuse box (near the electric meter).

Far easier to check that first anyway.

[DanB]

Originally posted by lynx@21 July 2004 - 18:46
More likely the problem is one of those switches down by the electric meter (assuming you've got circuit breakers) or a fuse in the fuse box (near the electric meter).

Far easier to check that first anyway.
If the heating is working it can't have tripped the electrics cos then the heating wouldn't work

[lynx]

Originally posted by danb+21 July 2004 - 18:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (danb @ 21 July 2004 - 18:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-lynx@21 July 2004 - 18:46
More likely the problem is one of those switches down by the electric meter (assuming you&#39;ve got circuit breakers) or a fuse in the fuse box (near the electric meter).

Far easier to check that first anyway.
If the heating is working it can&#39;t have tripped the electrics cos then the heating wouldn&#39;t work [/b][/quote]
1) Separate circuit (must be for an electric shower).
2) It could be gas heating.

[brenda]

nope its not the fuse box or the electrics around the fuse box, I checked all that. It has to be something to do with the box that is attached to the cord on the ceiling.

:( can I come round and borrow someones shower please

[DanB]

Originally posted by lynx@21 July 2004 - 19:02

2) It could be gas heating.
Boilers are still run by electric even though they use gas to produce the heat and hot water :D

Brenda, you are more than welcome to come and use mine but remember it leaks like a sieve.

edit - as I said, you will need to go to B&Q and buy teh new pull cord

[jazzthefunk]

Originally posted by brenda@21 July 2004 - 18:10
nope its not the fuse box or the electrics around the fuse box, I checked all that. It has to be something to do with the box that is attached to the cord on the ceiling.

:( can I come round and borrow someones shower please
yes :smoke:

[enoughfakefiles]

Originally posted by brenda@21 July 2004 - 18:10
:( can I come round and borrow someones shower please


AS long as you promise to fetch it back. :lol:

[Cheese]

Originally posted by brenda@21 July 2004 - 18:10
nope its not the fuse box or the electrics around the fuse box, I checked all that. It has to be something to do with the box that is attached to the cord on the ceiling.

:( can I come round and borrow someones shower please
I&#39;ll come around and hold a watering can over your head whilst you shower... ;)

[JONNO_CELEBS]

Depends what kinda of feed you have, if your shower is run from the hot water tank then I would say you prolly need a new switch, if it&#39;s a self heating shower (never runs out of hot water) then it should be (by law) on a seperate trip switch, I would say you switch has tripped and it needs switching on again :)

Jonno B)

[tesco]

Electric shower, eh? :blink:

never heard of that before, lol.

go to your fuse box, either flick the switch for your electric shower or unscrew the fuse if u have that kind.
then open up that box have a quick look see if u can see any problems in there (loose wire, damaged pull cord thingy, etc.)

Think you should call in an electrician, plumber, or a friend&#092;family member who knows how to fix this kinda stuff. ;)

[JONNO_CELEBS]

Bet you a fiver it&#39;s a trip switch :P

But agree with Rossco, you should get someone who knows what their doing, there&#39;s a lot of amps go thru a shower unit, remember, it&#39;s not voltage that kills, it&#39;s amps and you&#39;re dealing with some serious power :ph34r:

Jonno B)

[brenda]

Thank you people I have decided to wait until tomorrow when its daylight to fix it so that I can turn the lekky off.

@ Jonno - its a self heating shower

@ danb - I think you might be right :(

@ ROSSCO - I phone my dad tomorrow

[JONNO_CELEBS]

Ok Brenda, how old is the shower? Ish, I mean is it like less than 10 years old? :)

I still say it&#39;s the trip on the shower box, all you gotta do is switch it on :)
Will probably seperate or well marked "Shower" , just look to see if it&#39;s on :)

Got sod all to do with other electrics :)
But don&#39;t take it to bits yourself unless you know what you&#39;re doing, we don&#39;t wanna see ya&#39;s hurt :)

Jonno B)

[muchspl2]

who the fuck has an ELECTRIC fucking shower
double tee eff

[brenda]

Originally posted by muchspl2@22 July 2004 - 00:27
who the fuck has an ELECTRIC fucking shower
double tee eff
Is there another sort? :blink:

[JONNO_CELEBS]

Only those ones which you plug onto your taps :rolleyes: :lol:

Jonno B)

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by brenda+21 July 2004 - 19:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (brenda @ 21 July 2004 - 19:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@22 July 2004 - 00:27
who the fuck has an ELECTRIC fucking shower
double tee eff
Is there another sort? :blink: [/b][/quote]
in my country, its not recommended to have any electronics near our showers/bath tubs unless your trying to kill yourself
then by all means take the hairdryer or a toaster with your next bath :lol:

[Keikan]

I dunno in europe there&#39;s a whole lot of little thing you pull and switch before you can get power like ever watched Mr. Bean where he had to put a coin in the box before the lights went on?

[brenda]

Originally posted by muchspl2+22 July 2004 - 00:59--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muchspl2 &#064; 22 July 2004 - 00:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by brenda@21 July 2004 - 19:28
<!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@22 July 2004 - 00:27
who the fuck has an ELECTRIC fucking shower
double tee eff
Is there another sort? :blink:
in my country, its not recommended to have any electronics near our showers/bath tubs unless your trying to kill yourself
then by all means take the hairdryer or a toaster with your next bath :lol: [/b][/quote]
"sometimes it makes me wanna laugh,
sometimes I wanna take a toaster in my bath" :music1:




















er.... this is the music game thread isn&#39;t it :unsure:

[tesco]

shit stuff in the UK is too confusing.

here we just turn on a light and it works.

in the uk (not all of it, just older places) you gotta insert a coin to make the power go. :lol:

here we turn a tap and our shower goes.

in the uk you gotta pull a cord&#092;flick a switch&#092;plug stuff in&#092;trip switched&#092;etc just to get some hot water :lol:

not to mention those huge-ass electrical plugs you guys have. :lol:

well, i shouldn&#39;t be talking, look at ours:

http://ts.smoothcorp.com/cornerhardware/149461.282x366.jpeg
see any resemblence to this guy: :o ?

:lol:

[Keikan]

ya only with a mustache

[tesco]

Originally posted by Keikan@21 July 2004 - 21:00
ya only with a mustache
:lol: It&#39;s just the angle the pic is on. ;) :lol:

[Virtualbody1234]

I&#39;m with you, ROSSCO. It doesn&#39;t make any sense.

To use a shower both hot and cold water taps are turned on and adjusted to the right temperature and then a small valve to redirect the water to the spray showerhead.

The hot water comes from a separate tank water heater:
http://www.giantinc.com/images/pic-r-e-cascade-superX.jpg

No coins, switches, strings etc. :blink:

[tesco]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@22 July 2004 - 00:01
I&#39;m with you, ROSSCO. It doesn&#39;t make any sense.

To use a shower both hot and cold water taps are turned on and adjusted to the right temperature and then a small valve to redirect the water to the spray showerhead.

The hot water comes from a separate tank water heater:
http://www.giantinc.com/images/pic-r-e-cascade-superX.jpg

No coins, switches, strings etc. :blink:
super cascade. :blink:

:lol:

my shower has one tap that does the hot and the cold. :01: just push up to make water run, then twist to change temperature. :)

[Virtualbody1234]

Yeah, me too. But I was just sticking to basics of how it works.

The Super Cascade was the first picture that popped up from my search. :)

[tesco]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@22 July 2004 - 00:19
Yeah, me too.
:smilie4: Us Canadian&#39;s up to date with the latest technologies. B)

[Barbarossa]

Probably the fuse has blown, or the switch is knackered.

[manker]

:lol: :D :lol:

My Gran has got one of those showers that you connect from the taps, it appears she is at the cutting edge of North American self-cleaning technology :01:

I don&#39;t know anyone else without an electric shower, weird. This thread was funny and enlightening at the same time&#33;

[Barbarossa]

I&#39;ve got a shower straight from the pipes, through a thermostatic control valve, but then I&#39;ve got a mains-pressured hot water system which means I always have high pressure hot water whenever I want it, so I guess that makes all the difference...

In the morning it&#39;s so hot it&#39;ll burn the skin off your back&#33; :angry:

[Proper Bo]

Originally posted by barbarossa@22 July 2004 - 13:45

In the morning it's so hot it'll burn the skin off your back! :angry:
Stand facing the water then :rolleyes:

[lynx]

Hot water stored in tanks, how quaint. :lol:

Far better to just heat the water you want, when you want it.

Preferably by gas, but simply because it is cheaper.

[tesco]

Originally posted by lynx@22 July 2004 - 07:55
Hot water stored in tanks, how quaint. :lol:

Far better to just heat the water you want, when you want it.

Preferably by gas, but simply because it is cheaper.
How is that better? then you gotta wait for it to warm up before u can use it.

we just turn on the tap and off we go. :D

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by lynx@22 July 2004 - 06:55
Hot water stored in tanks, how quaint. :lol:

Far better to just heat the water you want, when you want it.

Preferably by gas, but simply because it is cheaper.
I&#39;m not so sure it&#39;s cheaper. Our tanks are very well insulated.

[lynx]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+22 July 2004 - 18:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 22 July 2004 - 18:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-lynx@22 July 2004 - 07:55
Hot water stored in tanks, how quaint. :lol:

Far better to just heat the water you want, when you want it.

Preferably by gas, but simply because it is cheaper.
How is that better? then you gotta wait for it to warm up before u can use it.

we just turn on the tap and off we go. :D [/b][/quote]
Nope, instant hot water for ever, no tank which will eventually run out.

I think mine is rated at 45KW, you can heat water at one heck of a lick with that sort of performance.

@VB, I meant gas being cheaper than electricity.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by lynx@22 July 2004 - 12:32
@VB, I meant gas being cheaper than electricity.
There are gas heaters available in tank type also.

Another thing is electricity is very inexpensive here in Quebec.

[tesco]

Originally posted by lynx+22 July 2004 - 13:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx &#064; 22 July 2004 - 13:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@22 July 2004 - 18:33
<!--QuoteBegin-lynx@22 July 2004 - 07:55
Hot water stored in tanks, how quaint. :lol:

Far better to just heat the water you want, when you want it.

Preferably by gas, but simply because it is cheaper.
How is that better? then you gotta wait for it to warm up before u can use it.

we just turn on the tap and off we go. :D
Nope, instant hot water for ever, no tank which will eventually run out.

I think mine is rated at 45KW, you can heat water at one heck of a lick with that sort of performance.

@VB, I meant gas being cheaper than electricity. [/b][/quote]
that would get to be an expensive electric bill. :blink:

no? :unsure:

edit: NVM did that math and here it would add up to about 6bucks for the whole family to have daily showers. B)

no clue what the water heater tanks cost monthly though.

[BigDaddy555]

Originally posted by brenda@21 July 2004 - 12:10
nope its not the fuse box or the electrics around the fuse box, I checked all that. It has to be something to do with the box that is attached to the cord on the ceiling.

:( can I come round and borrow someones shower please
you can use mine anytime...... ;)

[brenda]

Thx BD555 :D

It&#39;s still broken :cry1:

[lynx]

Originally posted by brenda@23 July 2004 - 02:40
Thx BD555 :D

It&#39;s still broken :cry1:
We can tell. :P

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by brenda+21 July 2004 - 20:19--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (brenda @ 21 July 2004 - 20:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by muchspl2@22 July 2004 - 00:59

Originally posted by brenda@21 July 2004 - 19:28
<!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@22 July 2004 - 00:27
who the fuck has an ELECTRIC fucking shower
double tee eff
Is there another sort? :blink:
in my country, its not recommended to have any electronics near our showers/bath tubs unless your trying to kill yourself
then by all means take the hairdryer or a toaster with your next bath :lol:
"sometimes it makes me wanna laugh,
sometimes I wanna take a toaster in my bath" :music1:




















er.... this is the music game thread isn&#39;t it :unsure: [/b][/quote]
no we have no ELECTRIC showers in our country
thank god :lol:

[manker]

Originally posted by lynx+23 July 2004 - 11:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 23 July 2004 - 11:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-brenda@23 July 2004 - 02:40
Thx BD555 :D

It&#39;s still broken :cry1:
We can tell. :P [/b][/quote]
Is that what the smell is&#33; :lol:

[lynx]

Originally posted by muchspl2+23 July 2004 - 11:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muchspl2 @ 23 July 2004 - 11:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by brenda@21 July 2004 - 20:19

Originally posted by muchspl2@22 July 2004 - 00:59

Originally posted by brenda@21 July 2004 - 19:28
<!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@22 July 2004 - 00:27
who the fuck has an ELECTRIC fucking shower
double tee eff
Is there another sort? :blink:
in my country, its not recommended to have any electronics near our showers/bath tubs unless your trying to kill yourself
then by all means take the hairdryer or a toaster with your next bath :lol:
"sometimes it makes me wanna laugh,
sometimes I wanna take a toaster in my bath" :music1:




















er.... this is the music game thread isn&#39;t it :unsure:
no we have no ELECTRIC showers in our country
thank god :lol: [/b][/quote]
Couldn&#39;t work out why you don&#39;t have electric showers, they are common in the rest of the world. I was going to say something silly about having insulation.

Then it struck me that you only work on 110 volts. With electric showers rated at about 12KW, that would mean switching about 110 amps with a thermostat. Doesn&#39;t sound like a very good idea to be doing that sort of thing in a bathroom.

To be honest, switching the 52 amps we would use (at 230 volts) doesn&#39;t sound too clever either, but not as bad as 110 amps.

[muchspl2]

I&#39;m still shocked you have them, that just absurd to me, but whatever floats your rubber ducky :lol:
I&#39; m going to quit my job move overseas and sell hot water heaters :eek: I&#39;ll make a fortune

[lynx]

They tend to be more for the Add-on market.

A lot more common is to have a tank (like RossCo and VB said) or combination heat and instant hot water like this. (http://www.discountedheating.co.uk/shop/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Vokera_Compact_Combi_134.html)

I got my figures wrong earlier, it is 80,000 BTU/h. But only 45,000 BTU/h (not 45 KW) of that is for water heating, just over 13 KW.

[Spider_dude]

Originally posted by danb@21 July 2004 - 17:43
Yes you do, there should be a switch in the same place as your &#39;leccy meter.

If the pull cord has gone though you will more than likely need a new one, time for a trip to BBQ ;)
this is no time for undercooked burgers and hot dogs.

[brenda]

Yay the shower is fixed

danb you were right, the pully cord thing had blown inside and a trip to B&Q sorted it :D

[Spider_dude]

Originally posted by brenda@24 July 2004 - 17:05
Yay the shower is fixed

danb you were right, the pully cord thing had blown inside and a trip to BBQ sorted it :D
did you get a chicken burger?

[DanB]

Originally posted by brenda@24 July 2004 - 18:05
Yay the shower is fixed

danb you were right, the pully cord thing had blown inside and a trip to B&Q sorted it :D
At least you can have a wash now :lol:


yay for my DIY skills :D

[Smith]

funny thing is that my dads an electrician and im his aprentace.

whats the problem, or have u fixed it?

[tesco]

Originally posted by TheCanuk@24 July 2004 - 19:10
funny thing is that my dads an electrician and im his aprentace.

whats the problem, or have u fixed it?
:D we&#39;re both canadian, and both gonna be electricians. B)

[lynx]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+25 July 2004 - 01:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 25 July 2004 - 01:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheCanuk@24 July 2004 - 19:10
funny thing is that my dads an electrician and im his aprentace.

whats the problem, or have u fixed it?
:D we&#39;re both canadian, and both gonna be electricians. B) [/b][/quote]
And they reckoned last year&#39;s blackout was a one off. :lol:

[tesco]

Originally posted by lynx+24 July 2004 - 21:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 24 July 2004 - 21:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@25 July 2004 - 01:21
<!--QuoteBegin-TheCanuk@24 July 2004 - 19:10
funny thing is that my dads an electrician and im his aprentace.

whats the problem, or have u fixed it?
:D we&#39;re both canadian, and both gonna be electricians. B)
And they reckoned last year&#39;s blackout was a one off. :lol: [/b][/quote]
:01:

[BigDaddy555]

Im gonna say its the flux capacitor

:D

[Smith]

Originally posted by lynx+25 July 2004 - 02:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 25 July 2004 - 02:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@25 July 2004 - 01:21
<!--QuoteBegin-TheCanuk@24 July 2004 - 19:10
funny thing is that my dads an electrician and im his aprentace.

whats the problem, or have u fixed it?
:D we&#39;re both canadian, and both gonna be electricians. B)
And they reckoned last year&#39;s blackout was a one off. :lol: [/b][/quote]
sorry, that was my fault, i tried to shred my intire porn collection in one pass.

lol rossco, were u live again?

[tesco]

Originally posted by TheCanuk+26 July 2004 - 13:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheCanuk @ 26 July 2004 - 13:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by lynx@25 July 2004 - 02:47

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@25 July 2004 - 01:21
<!--QuoteBegin-TheCanuk@24 July 2004 - 19:10
funny thing is that my dads an electrician and im his aprentace.

whats the problem, or have u fixed it?
:D we&#39;re both canadian, and both gonna be electricians. B)
And they reckoned last year&#39;s blackout was a one off. :lol:
sorry, that was my fault, i tried to shred my intire porn collection in one pass.

lol rossco, were u live again? [/b][/quote]
nope. :)

[Smith]

nope as in... u dont want to tell me?

lalrite ill guess, ontario> warm or cold?

[Spicker]

Originally posted by TheCanuk@26 July 2004 - 21:43
nope as in... u dont want to tell me?

lalrite ill guess, ontario> warm or cold?
cold :P

[tesco]

Originally posted by jaigandhi5+26 July 2004 - 22:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jaigandhi5 @ 26 July 2004 - 22:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheCanuk@26 July 2004 - 21:43
nope as in... u dont want to tell me?

lalrite ill guess, ontario> warm or cold?
cold :P [/b][/quote]
ya we&#39;ve had a couple of nice days but mostly cold this summer., :angry:

better get hotter next week.