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VB
03-22-2003, 09:32 AM
0 - 74: Newcomer (sounds more welcome than newbie) 1 Star
75 - 999: Member 3 Stars
1000 - xxxxx : Sr. Member 5 Stars

No God, Jr. Member, Newbie rank anymore ...

like it or hate it :)



News: http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act...&f=1&t=23313&s= (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=23313&s=)

TRshady
03-22-2003, 09:35 AM
:'( :'( :'( :'( Your unfair VB :'( :'( :'( :'(

What made you do this?

edit: (sorry paul, psst..... change it back please!)

Genius
03-22-2003, 09:36 AM
Is this a poll or are you just telling us :huh:

Anyway I hate it :angry: :angry: :angry:

Bring the old one back :(

itay
03-22-2003, 09:38 AM
i personally liked the old ranks better...........
but it ain't my call :lol:

RPerry
03-22-2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by TRshady@22 March 2003 - 04:35
:'( :'( :'( :'( Your unfair paul :'( :'( :'( :'(

What made you do this?
Thats not Paul, its VB, and was probably done to cut down on the spamming ;) Anyway, it seems pretty fair, although I only got to enjoy being a Board god for a week :P

MagicNakor
03-22-2003, 11:25 AM
I don&#39;t like it. A little differentiation is nice. <_<

:ninja:

scribblec
03-22-2003, 11:29 AM
yeah
post god was nice rank
sr member wasnt a big thing i dont like the newones
u should of just changed the newbis and newcomer thing and got rid of junior member
thats all

[B][O][T]
03-22-2003, 11:36 AM
Good move VB

Post and stars dosnt mean anything to Me, it&#39;s the quality in the post that counts for Me.
This should prob limit down the spamming as I see it though, even if I Myself see less spam nowadays.

BOT

Leech_Killer
03-22-2003, 11:59 AM
This is crap, utter crap.

I always used the star system as a rough guide to determine whether a reply had a come from someone with credible knowledge or not. But now it&#39;s just to hard to determine that.

It&#39;s not going to help to stop people spamming it&#39;s just going to promote it as people will be spamming more to get off the crappy 3 star member status.

I&#39;ve said it before and I&#39;ll say it again UTTER CRAP.

:angry:

tilen76
03-22-2003, 12:13 PM
I can see why the change, but it takes away some of the fun features this board used to have. With only three ranks it&#39;s kinda boring now.

Perhaps there&#39;s one more rank missing.

- 1 star for the Newcomer
- 2 stars for the Jr. Member
- 3 stars for a Member
- 4 stars for Sr. Member
- 5 stars for Mods and Admins only.

The post count for each rank has to be determined of course. (example: 1-74, 75-???, ???-999, 1000+)

N£MO
03-22-2003, 12:28 PM
This is just another one of the stupid ideas those from above have done to put this board in turmoil....and for what reason exactly??

Wont stop spamming as people who have lost stars now will be very eager to get them back.For me stars are not so important BUT if this was done to cut down on spamming i cant see how,realistically,it can :devil: :devil:

J'Pol
03-22-2003, 12:33 PM
I for one like it.

Everyone keeps saying posts and stars don&#39;t matter. Then get upset about it, when VB changes it.

Judge the quality of a post by reading it, not by the number of things people have said. They could all be rubbish. On the other hand some people don´t post often, but when they do it´s really good. So read the post and the advice within it and decide for yourself.

TRshady
03-22-2003, 12:40 PM
Oh, yeah, sorry Paul.

But still, VB your evil :devil:

I&#39;ll never get over this :&#39;( :&#39;( :&#39;( :&#39;( Always looking forward till one day I would become a god. Oh well, that&#39;s another forum messed up. :&#39;( :&#39;( :&#39;(

Leech_Killer
03-22-2003, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by N£MO@22 March 2003 - 13:28
Wont stop spamming as people who have lost stars now will be very eager to get them back.For me stars are not so important BUT if this was done to cut down on spamming i cant see how,realistically,it can :devil: :devil:
Thats right.

I spend all of a week at Sr. Member then I get kicking in the happy sacks and I&#39;m right back down.

:angry: :angry: :angry:

Curley
03-22-2003, 01:10 PM
I don&#39;t see why we can&#39;t customise our own

Champion
03-22-2003, 01:16 PM
or u have 7 or 3 start or board god or.... same for me VB :D

RPerry
03-22-2003, 01:27 PM
There is always ways around obsticles :P

scribblec
03-22-2003, 02:06 PM
i still think its stupid
they should bring board god back
and foget jnr member
what did 3 stars used to equal anyway
i so wanted board god back
i was so close aswell
yeah so what i think should of happened is newbie to newcomer only
thats all u ha to do

DataMore
03-22-2003, 02:15 PM
So this now is 1 star = Newcomer, 3 stars = Member and 5 stars = Sr. Member? :unsure:
:huh: What happened to the 2nd and 4th stars? :huh:

:D I sense that a lot of people will start asking: "How did I get from 1 to 3 stars all of a sudden?" :D

:D It looks like all the gods were kicked from heaven&#33;&#33; We&#39;re now just simple mortals. :P

[B][O][T]
03-22-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Curley@22 March 2003 - 14:10
I don&#39;t see why we can&#39;t customise our own
That&#39;s a good question mate


Number of posts a member must have over before allowing them to change their member title?
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BOT

Skweeky
03-22-2003, 02:33 PM
Good job VB, I like the ranks a lot more now, more democratic, i&#39;d say.
As for those who regret being a &#39;board god&#39;no more: Nietzsche already said that God is dead :lol:

zapjb
03-22-2003, 02:41 PM
I don&#39;t like these new names. But OK. But these new stars 1, 3 & 5. It&#39;s wrong. Please bring back stars 2 & 4. Hope you&#39;ll consider this VB. TY

DataMore
03-22-2003, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Skweeky@22 March 2003 - 14:33
Nietzsche already said that God is dead :lol:
:D Yes, and a few years later, God replied: Nietzsche is dead. :P

BTW, I&#39;ve already updated the pinned topic about ranks. B)

Ynhockey
03-22-2003, 02:44 PM
I hate these new ranks :(

It doesn&#39;t matter what kind of ranking system you do, there&#39;s always going to be SPAM about it. If you remove it completely, everyone&#39;s going to whine about it. If you alter it, everyone (including me) is going to whine about it too. If you keep it, everyone&#39;s gonna whine yet again.

But i think this new system sucks more than the old one because, for me at least, start DO matter, it&#39;s one thing if you spam to get 1000 posts and it&#39;s another if you post useful stuff to get there, and if you do the latter, it really sucks if you aren&#39;t even rewarded with a simple silly happiness in the form of an extra star. Besides, the names &#39;Newcomer&#39;, &#39;Member&#39; and &#39;Senior Member&#39; are really lame...

J'Pol
03-22-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by DataMore@22 March 2003 - 15:42
:D Yes, and a few years later, God replied: Nietzsche is dead. :P


And they had been formally introduced by that stage.

zapjb
03-22-2003, 02:46 PM
The more I think about this the less I like it. I want my 2 stars back&#33; <_<

"The Avatar Man"
03-22-2003, 02:49 PM
I think the three level system is fine but we need to come up with netter names for them.
how about
1.member
2.sr. member
3.klite board god
I think this would be better ;)

Skweeky
03-22-2003, 02:50 PM
I really don&#39;t see what the big deal is here. I mean, you come to this forum to get information or to help people. The ranking system is hardly relevant. It&#39;s not sure at all that a &#39;board god&#39; knows more than a &#39;newbie&#39;.....

Mivaro
03-22-2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Skweeky@22 March 2003 - 15:50
It&#39;s not sure at all that a &#39;board god&#39; knows more than a &#39;newbie&#39;.....
That&#39;s absoluty true....


i think this a real improvement, although getting rid off all the ranks (except useful onse like mod and admin..) would be better in my opinion :rolleyes: . This discussion shows that some members are way too fond about their rank :lol:

scribblec
03-22-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by [O][T]+22 March 2003 - 15:21--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE ([O][T] @ 22 March 2003 - 15:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Curley@22 March 2003 - 14:10
I don&#39;t see why we can&#39;t customise our own
That&#39;s a good question mate


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i already came up wit this idea

its just no one paid attention

zapjb
03-22-2003, 03:03 PM
I&#39;m quoting myself from Cornerpockets similar thread. "This sucks even more. You mods are off your nuts on these 2 recent decisions about post & star counts. I get 2 stars ripped from me. Then every idiot spammers gonna get 10,000 posts reinstated & have 5 stars to my 3 stars. Sorry but thats fucked up. I help people with a lot of my posts. A lot (not all) of these idiot spammers are just that. And some fn noobs gonna look at their 5 stars & believe that KL has spyware or the sky is falling. And said fn noobs not gonna believe me cause I only have 3 stars & 10,000 less posts than these fucking idiot spammers. Yeah, way to go. Repent before this gets out of hand. :angry:"

scribblec
03-22-2003, 03:14 PM
http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1914763.jpg
http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1914763.jpg
all i gotta say

summerlinda
03-22-2003, 03:19 PM
Stop whining, its the mods decision, accept it. Now, all of you whiners, go do something usefull :lol:

J'Pol
03-22-2003, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by solidsnake+22 March 2003 - 15:59--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (solidsnake @ 22 March 2003 - 15:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -[O][T]@22 March 2003 - 15:21
<!--QuoteBegin--Curley@22 March 2003 - 14:10
I don&#39;t see why we can&#39;t customise our own
That&#39;s a good question mate


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i already came up wit this idea

its just no one paid attention[/quote]
One has to wonder why scribble

scribblec
03-22-2003, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by JmiF+22 March 2003 - 16:28--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JmiF @ 22 March 2003 - 16:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -solidsnake@22 March 2003 - 15:59

Originally posted by -[O][T]@22 March 2003 - 15:21
<!--QuoteBegin--Curley@22 March 2003 - 14:10
I don&#39;t see why we can&#39;t customise our own
That&#39;s a good question mate


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i already came up wit this idea

its just no one paid attention
One has to wonder why scribble (is the best cos he is :D) [/quote]
all im saying is who put forward this idea first

k

its scribblec by the way

Infested Cats
03-22-2003, 03:45 PM
I don&#39;t know if this was the best move made by the mods, but keep in mind: they tend to have our best interests in mind when they make these decisions.

People, you shouldn&#39;t have to rely on the "star-system" to feel better about yourself. Just because it says K-lite board god (or whatever is the highest ranking) next to your name, doesn’t necessarily make you any better than a newbie (or "newcomer").
You aren&#39;t treated any differently if you have more posts than another person. Generally, personality tends to shine through the posts counts...

Like I&#39;m sure most of you have heard a thousand times by now: "Quality over Quantity."
This forum isn&#39;t a competition to have the highest post count. We&#39;re here all with a similar interest in mind. "A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation."

So, like summerlinda said: Give the complaining a rest.

IMHO, I think all post-counts should be abolished, ceasing all competition whatsoever.

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
03-22-2003, 03:47 PM
I&#39;m no longer a post-whore.... oh well :-)

Originally posted by Curley
I don&#39;t see why we can&#39;t customise our own
I have to agree with Curley on this one. Can&#39;t we have just a little customization? Like if we have over 1000 posts, can&#39;t we change it from Member to like "KL Krazy Member" or "K-Lite NeWbIe 4ever"

Just a thought B)

Rat Faced
03-22-2003, 04:22 PM
Its fine by me :D

mobboss01
03-22-2003, 04:23 PM
KL Krazy Member

:lol: I like that one. You gotta be a bit krazy to get to that status. Ok, I guess I am just a member now. Oh well, seems like my Godly status was short lived. VB whatever you want to do is cool with me. We all shouldn&#39;t get caught up in status anyway. That is not what the forum is about. Rock on. Nice work with the forum. Stronger than ever.

Rocko
03-22-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by VB@22 March 2003 - 04:32
0 - 74: Newcomer (sounds more welcome than newbie) 1 Star
75 - 999: Member 3 Stars
1000 - xxxxx : Sr. Member 5 Stars

No God, Jr. Member, Newbie rank anymore ...

like it or hate it :)
This take away the fun of the post count, so is better to just hide the post count and ranks, just leave the rank for the mods.

Rocko

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
03-22-2003, 05:07 PM
btw, If we could customize a little bit...

instead of "senior member", I would like something "wandering poster" or "GeN-X-kId"

The Great Dude
03-22-2003, 05:30 PM
Wow, 1000 post to be a Senior Member. :P Couldn&#39;t you have thought of something else? ;)

ClubDiggler
03-22-2003, 05:33 PM
So.....

You are telling me that I will never be a "Post Whore"

bummer....

First "not smoking in New York City bars" and now this :angry:

When will it end?

The Great Dude
03-22-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by ClubDiggler@22 March 2003 - 09:33
So.....

You are telling me that I will never be a "Post Whore"

bummer....

First "not smoking in New York City bars" and now this :angry:

When will it end?
Post Whore was put in for fun when FC was around. ;) I would hope they put it back, but oh well, it was a good laugh. :P Klite Board God sounded better. :lol:

scribblec
03-22-2003, 05:49 PM
no sig amazing innit

also klite board god sounded good
at least bring that back

N£MO
03-22-2003, 06:11 PM
I still think this is crap..... :-" :&#39;( :sleeping:

The Great Dude
03-22-2003, 06:13 PM
Now look what this has done, you got the people angry. :P It seems now the only people who are angry are the ones without 1000 posts or very far from it. ;)

What about K-Lite Master? Sounds ok. ;)

ClubDiggler
03-22-2003, 07:01 PM
What happened to 2 and 4 stars...

Why skip them? :pirate:

gumbydancin
03-22-2003, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by RPerry+22 March 2003 - 05:30--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RPerry @ 22 March 2003 - 05:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--TRshady@22 March 2003 - 04:35
:&#39;(&nbsp; :&#39;(&nbsp; :&#39;(&nbsp; :&#39;(&nbsp; Your unfair paul&nbsp; :&#39;(&nbsp; :&#39;(&nbsp; :&#39;(&nbsp; :&#39;(

What made you do this?
Thats not Paul, its VB, and was probably done to cut down on the spamming ;) Anyway, it seems pretty fair, although I only got to enjoy being a Board god for a week :P [/b][/quote]
Well, I had been a board god for a couple months, and I still think this is BULLSH#T First off, taking away members stars?, talk about stealing some pride away from faithful members. <_< Secondly, where is the logic in counting posts in almost all areas again, and then taking stars away from members in order to reduce spamming?????? I have to wonder how much some of these people know about human nature. Speaking of logic, in the current format, what is the point of having a 1/3/5 star division. If you&#39;re only going to have three seperate ranks why not just 1/2/3 stars? Now back to pride in members; do any of you honestly believe that a person with 75 posts should have the same star recognition as someone with 999&#33;&#33;?? Whether you admit it some people take pride in their stars because they know they have spent time answering questions and weighing in on important board and program issues to earn them, and to say that two people (75 posts and 999 posts) with such opposing time and effort spent on the board deserve the same number of stars is very insulting. I commend your recent efforts to make things run more smoothly on the board, but this the WRONG decision, and I hope you reconsider and take into cosideration respect you should have for loyal members of the board. The same as we do you.

Afronaut
03-22-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Infested Cats@22 March 2003 - 16:45
I don&#39;t know if this was the best move made by the mods, but keep in mind: they tend to have our best interests in mind when they make these decisions.

People, you shouldn&#39;t have to rely on the "star-system" to feel better about yourself. Just because it says K-lite board god (or whatever is the highest ranking) next to your name, doesn’t necessarily make you any better than a newbie (or "newcomer").
You aren&#39;t treated any differently if you have more posts than another person. Generally, personality tends to shine through the posts counts...

Like I&#39;m sure most of you have heard a thousand times by now: "Quality over Quantity."
This forum isn&#39;t a competition to have the highest post count. We&#39;re here all with a similar interest in mind. "A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation."

So,&nbsp; like summerlinda said: Give the complaining a rest.

IMHO, I think all post-counts should be abolished, ceasing all competition whatsoever.
I agree, and i want to add;
There is ppl here who tend to only post, how should i put it, negative? way on most of the topics too, just looking for an argue. Some ppl posts alot, some less, usefull and perhaps not usefull info.
Now, im not using this against anybody, im here to collect the info ;) and helping ppl the most i can. And most importantly, have a good time reading the posts. Lounge is da place :P
I can only imagine how much work it takes to be a MOD in here, and i have the respect for them. Rulez iz da rulez, like somebody posted somewhere, and its good to have some margins of what we can and what we cant post in here. I have read the rules, and i will follow them. Thats why i joined this board; i agree with the rules. If MODs desides to chance my status/posts one way or another, im cool with that.
They can "take away" the whole counting system and im still gonna be cool with that.
Because, the more and more i spend my time here, i will learn something about the cool personalitys what is behind nick-names etc. I&#39;ll also learn who&#39;s posts im gonna look for in certain matters, and whos "negatively-constructive" crap im gonna stear away from. :lol:

Gonna finish this by saying, regardless of "star-status";

"Yo, pop the head outta that a&#036;&#036; and take a look around&#33;&#33;" ...i know i did. :blink: :lol:

This is such a cool board. B)

-GS-

gumbydancin
03-22-2003, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by JmiF@22 March 2003 - 07:33
I for one like it.

Everyone keeps saying posts and stars don&#39;t matter. Then get upset about it, when VB changes it.

Judge the quality of a post by reading it, not by the number of things people have said. They could all be rubbish. On the other hand some people don´t post often, but when they do it´s really good. So read the post and the advice within it and decide for yourself.
I&#39;m not going after a member here JmiF, but do you think you might feel this way because you are a posting machine (not necessarrily post whore) and you are 6 days away from those 5 stars by my calculation?

NikkiD
03-22-2003, 08:03 PM
Okay everyone, I&#39;ve read your replies and a lot of you have valid points. So here&#39;s an idea. What are your thoughts? What are your suggestions? Think hard here, and give us your ideas. Maybe we can come up with some good ideas that everyone will be pleased with.

Mivaro
03-22-2003, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by gumbydancin@22 March 2003 - 20:55
I&#39;m not going after a member here JmiF,&nbsp; but do you think you might feel this way because you are a posting machine (not necessarrily post whore) and you are 6 days away from those 5 stars by my calculation?
well, i&#39;ve to post at least a year from now (my calculation :lol: ) before i get 1000 posts and i agree with JmiF you&#39;ll have to read posts to judge someone instead of looking at stars.....

J'Pol
03-22-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by gumbydancin+22 March 2003 - 20:55--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gumbydancin @ 22 March 2003 - 20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--JmiF@22 March 2003 - 07:33
I for one like it.

Everyone keeps saying posts and stars don&#39;t matter. Then get upset about it, when VB changes it.

Judge the quality of a post by reading it, not by the number of things people have said. They could all be rubbish. On the other hand some people don´t post often, but when they do it´s really good. So read the post and the advice within it and decide for yourself.
I&#39;m not going after a member here JmiF, but do you think you might feel this way because you are a posting machine (not necessarrily post whore) and you are 6 days away from those 5 stars by my calculation? [/b][/quote]
Look at my member status. It has never risen above senior member. It could have risen a long while ago. I decided to ask that it be kept that way, VB was kind enough to allow me to stay as sr member.

I honestly think I have contributed to this board by the number and quality of sigs I have posted. The help I have given to some people. And a few laughs / smiles I have raised. I have also noised a few people up, as have some with me. A bit like real life in fact. I don&#39;t like everyone and not everyone likes me. Life would be boring otherwise.

I don&#39;t feel as though I have anything to apologise for. I am not a posting machine, I just happen to enjoy it here. It is the first forum I ever joined and it is the only one I am currently a member of (soulseek apart).

I feel I am entitled to have and express my opinion and I fully support your right to do the same.

gumbydancin
03-22-2003, 08:18 PM
First off, I think you should bring the five stars back. The 1/3/5 thing is kinda ridiculous. Secondly, I&#39;ll say it again - I think they had it right when they stopped counting posts in the worlds and such a little while ago. I think it helped with spamming a bit (should more the longer it is in place) and showed the proper post recognition for people who contribute to the board by answering questions and such. I mean when you look at it honestly, mosts discussions in the worlds could just as easily be lounge topics, although I do feel a few too many posts were being relocated under this system. My posts count growth severley slowed during this phase, but I felt it was completely justified. I would also support raising the star levels a bit: lots of people have suggested a 0-99, 100-249, 250-499, 500-999, 1000-xx split. I would be more likely to support something like this. I think we could take away the flashy names and it may make people less likely to spam to attain them, but I doubt it. I&#39;ve metioned before that the whole post whore idea started glorifying a very bad habit and the attention it receives is out of control. Besides that, while we focus those comments on Fc and the like, many new members are much worse and receive no warning or reprimand. I think if you go through the members that average more than 10 posts per day and browse through the quality of their posts you will find some interesting trends. I lost my train of though. I&#39;ll think a bit and post again.

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
03-22-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by NikkiD+22 March 2003 - 12:03--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NikkiD @ 22 March 2003 - 12:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Okay everyone, I&#39;ve read your replies and a lot of you have valid points. So here&#39;s an idea. What are your thoughts? What are your suggestions? Think hard here, and give us your ideas. Maybe we can come up with some good ideas that everyone will be pleased with. [/b]
My suggestion again&#33; or at least Curley&#39;s suggestion&#33; It&#39;s where you get to customize the "Sr. Member" into your own lil&#39; thing after, say.... at 1000 posts or so. (of course, nothing offensive :) ) <!--QuoteBegin--Shinigami@22 March 2003 - 09:07
btw, If we could customize a little bit...

instead of "senior member", I would like something "wandering poster" or "GeN-X-kId"[/quote]

P.S. Is it just me or is it that The_Great_Dude and I are the only ones that aren&#39;t really serious about this lol :P

Oh well, at least we aren&#39;t mad :D

Ps.s.s.s.ss. what do you guys think? more suggestions&#33;&#33;

the-ninja69
03-22-2003, 08:24 PM
Why did u do this i liked the idea have more ranks instead of a mere 3 ranks now.

WHY&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

gumbydancin
03-22-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by JmiF+22 March 2003 - 15:07--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JmiF @ 22 March 2003 - 15:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -gumbydancin@22 March 2003 - 20:55
<!--QuoteBegin--JmiF@22 March 2003 - 07:33
I for one like it.

Everyone keeps saying posts and stars don&#39;t matter. Then get upset about it, when VB changes it.

Judge the quality of a post by reading it, not by the number of things people have said. They could all be rubbish. On the other hand some people don´t post often, but when they do it´s really good. So read the post and the advice within it and decide for yourself.
I&#39;m not going after a member here JmiF, but do you think you might feel this way because you are a posting machine (not necessarrily post whore) and you are 6 days away from those 5 stars by my calculation?
Look at my member status. It has never risen above senior member. It could have risen a long while ago. I decided to ask that it be kept that way, VB was kind enough to allow me to stay as sr member.

I honestly think I have contributed to this board by the number and quality of sigs I have posted. The help I have given to some people. And a few laughs / smiles I have raised. I have also noised a few people up, as have some with me. A bit like real life in fact. I don&#39;t like everyone and not everyone likes me. Life would be boring otherwise.

I don&#39;t feel as though I have anything to apologise for. I am not a posting machine, I just happen to enjoy it here. It is the first forum I ever joined and it is the only one I am currently a member of (soulseek apart).

I feel I am entitled to have and express my opinion and I fully support your right to do the same. [/b][/quote]
I fully support you expressing your opinion, and I thank you for bringing to my attention your willingness to stay a sr. member. I truly hadn&#39;t noticed before. I feel that you contribute to the board and that is why I said, honestly, that I wasn&#39;t attacking you. I just posed a question. I guess I was trying to shed light on a strong trend among replies to this new idea that members who had low post counts don&#39;t seem to care, as with those who are around a thousand anyway, and that the ones like myself in the middle are most likely to feel disgruntled.

This trend of course has a couple flaws due to replies by those individuals who always kiss the mods asses and refuse to state their true opinions for fear of a bad image I guess.

ooo
03-22-2003, 08:29 PM
ewww i revolt here too


WHERE THE STARS AT&#33;

now there should be a poll to decide this

the members of the forum should have a WORD in this matter&#33;

gumbydancin
03-22-2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Shinigami+22 March 2003 - 15:23--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shinigami @ 22 March 2003 - 15:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -NikkiD@22 March 2003 - 12:03
Okay everyone, I&#39;ve read your replies and a lot of you have valid points. So here&#39;s an idea. What are your thoughts? What are your suggestions? Think hard here, and give us your ideas. Maybe we can come up with some good ideas that everyone will be pleased with.
My suggestion again&#33; or at least Curley&#39;s suggestion&#33; It&#39;s where you get to customize the "Sr. Member" into your own lil&#39; thing after, say.... at 1000 posts or so. (of course, nothing offensive :) ) <!--QuoteBegin--Shinigami@22 March 2003 - 09:07
btw, If we could customize a little bit...

instead of "senior member", I would like something "wandering poster" or "GeN-X-kId"

P.S. Is it just me or is it that The_Great_Dude and I are the only ones that aren&#39;t really serious about this lol :P

Oh well, at least we aren&#39;t mad :D

Ps.s.s.s.ss. what do you guys think? more suggestions&#33;&#33; [/b][/quote]
I&#39;m very serious about this, and I don&#39;t support you and Curley&#39;s idea because it adds more work for the mods however small of an amount, because they will have to approve every one. It&#39;s good in theory though. I&#39;m just trying to show that the current situation will not reduce spamming and shows a lack of respect for some very dedicated members.

N£MO
03-22-2003, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by NikkiD@22 March 2003 - 21:03
Okay everyone, I&#39;ve read your replies and a lot of you have valid points. So here&#39;s an idea. What are your thoughts? What are your suggestions? Think hard here, and give us your ideas. Maybe we can come up with some good ideas that everyone will be pleased with.
Surely this should have been done before this crazy idea was implemented,as i said in another post yesterday i blame the admins....they are so out of touch and clueless.Bad management is the problem here...thats why this board is in the state it is.And has this solved any problems??NO...now its got members arguing and pissed off which will only reflect on the overal decline of this place.How many more good members are going to leave??? :huh:

I still think this sucks&#33; :-"

ooo
03-22-2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by N£MO+22 March 2003 - 21:31--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (N£MO @ 22 March 2003 - 21:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--NikkiD@22 March 2003 - 21:03
Okay everyone, I&#39;ve read your replies and a lot of you have valid points. So here&#39;s an idea. What are your thoughts? What are your suggestions? Think hard here, and give us your ideas. Maybe we can come up with some good ideas that everyone will be pleased with.
Surely this should have been done before this crazy idea was implemented,as i said in another post yesterday i blame the admins....they are so out of touch and clueless.Bad management is the problem here...thats why this board is in the state it is.And has this solved any problems??NO...now its got members arguing and pissed off which will only reflect on the overal decline of this place.How many more good members are going to leave??? :huh:

I still think this sucks&#33; :-" [/b][/quote]
darn i would of gotten into board god ryte now lolz... i just noticed something in the disscussions posts now count... when was that changed? when they changed the stars

REVOLT&#33; we should form a revolting group in the longue to settle this matter... i think newcomers* have no say in this.... i still like newbie better&#33;

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
03-22-2003, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by gumbydancin@22 March 2003 - 12:30
I&#39;m very serious about this, and I don&#39;t support you and Curley&#39;s idea because it adds more work for the mods however small of an amount, because they will have to approve every one. It&#39;s good in theory though. I&#39;m just trying to show that the current situation will not reduce spamming and shows a lack of respect for some very dedicated members.
hey, it was just a suggestion so i won&#39;t argue with your opinion.

Anyhow, are you guys really going to leave just because of a couple stars were removed? :o Argue all you guys want but what has been done has been done and instead of flaming and blaming, suggest a new idea or just say "I want the old one back"

ooo
03-22-2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Shinigami+22 March 2003 - 21:36--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shinigami @ 22 March 2003 - 21:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--gumbydancin@22 March 2003 - 12:30
I&#39;m very serious about this, and I don&#39;t support you and Curley&#39;s idea because it adds more work for the mods however small of an amount, because they will have to approve every one.&nbsp; It&#39;s good in theory though.&nbsp; I&#39;m just trying to show that the current situation will not reduce spamming and shows a lack of respect for some very dedicated members.
hey, it was just a suggestion so i won&#39;t argue with your opinion.

Anyhow, are you guys really going to leave just because of a couple stars were removed? :o Argue all you guys want but what has been done has been done and instead of flaming and blaming, suggest a new idea or just say "I want the old one back" [/b][/quote]
Bye Shinigami :P lolz... have a nice trip...
:alien: darn your not leaving&#33;....
:nuke: BRING THE OLD WAY BACK OR WE MEAN WAR&#33;
:alien: lolz...

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
03-22-2003, 08:46 PM
Heh, sure, it&#39;s about time for me to "retire" :P

oh, and back to my idea... how about somthing like "young fart" or "old fart" :lol:

gumbydancin
03-22-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Shinigami+22 March 2003 - 15:36--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shinigami @ 22 March 2003 - 15:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--gumbydancin@22 March 2003 - 12:30
I&#39;m very serious about this, and I don&#39;t support you and Curley&#39;s idea because it adds more work for the mods however small of an amount, because they will have to approve every one.&nbsp; It&#39;s good in theory though.&nbsp; I&#39;m just trying to show that the current situation will not reduce spamming and shows a lack of respect for some very dedicated members.
hey, it was just a suggestion so i won&#39;t argue with your opinion.

Anyhow, are you guys really going to leave just because of a couple stars were removed? :o Argue all you guys want but what has been done has been done and instead of flaming and blaming, suggest a new idea or just say "I want the old one back" [/b][/quote]
I&#39;m not going to leave, but how much of this has to take place before people are more likely to leave or participate in the future of the board? I&#39;m not sure, but I don&#39;t like the new system, I gave my reasons and my suggestions, and I agree with NEMO that this should have been discussed with the members befor it was implemented, at the VERY LEAST to make people aware. There was no consideration in their course of action. I&#39;m beginning to wonder what happens in their little discussions.

Nightwolf
03-22-2003, 09:03 PM
I understand the Admins&#39; desire to downplay the importance of stars and ranks, but I think this new system will do more harm than good. Most users come here to talk and help others, but it&#39;s also nice to have something to shoot for. Now it&#39;s so hard to move up to Sr. Member, I think you&#39;ll see a lot more SPAM. I like tilen76&#39;s idea:

- 1 star for the Newcomer
- 2 stars for the Jr. Member
- 3 stars for a Member
- 4 stars for Sr. Member
- 5 stars for Mods and Admins only.


I also have a technical question. I there any way the board software can limit the number of posts each level can make per day, like 5 for Newcomers, 10 for Jr. Members, etc.? Maybe that would make people think twice before spamming.

MagicNakor
03-22-2003, 09:29 PM
Bring the old (5-star) system back. Raise the number of posts for each "level" if you want, but there has to be differentiation. 1/3/5 is just silly.

I&#39;m not exactly sure why we had a poll to change "newbie" to "newcomer," while this came clear out of left field.

Tilen76&#39;s 4-star system would work, as well, if you want to chop out the Board Gods.

Limiting the number of posts one can make based on their rank, though, is just a bad idea.

:ninja:

N£MO
03-22-2003, 09:34 PM
And another thing,this will just add to the confusion for n00bs.I wonder how many questions we will get now asking &#39;what happened to my stars&#39; and its gonna stress everyone out having to reply to the same old questions again.


I still think this sucks :w00t:

DataMore
03-22-2003, 09:59 PM
Here&#39;s my suggestion: No more stars, no more post counts. Just the members as they are&#33; ;)
Of course Mods and Admins should have something to distinguish them.

:blink: Are you guys addicted on stars, or what? :blink:

ugluk
03-22-2003, 10:01 PM
This new ranking system sure is boring. just remove the stars and post count all together&#33; this system is pointless.

Petri
03-22-2003, 10:39 PM
Getting rid of the ranks/stars altogether might be a good idea... post counts could be left in the user profiles.

marlowe_is_dead
03-22-2003, 10:49 PM
I have two titles:

Granddaddy
Wizard/Witch

scribblec
03-22-2003, 10:50 PM
it was my friggin idea to have custom names after a certain ammount of posts
read back in the friggin lounge
why is it i am never recognised for the good stuff i do
but am aalways nabbed whenever i do anything remotly bad <_<

J'Pol
03-22-2003, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by solidsnake@22 March 2003 - 23:50
it was my friggin idea to have custom names after a certain ammount of posts
read back in the friggin lounge
why is it i am never recognised for the good stuff i do
but am aalways nabbed whenever i do anything remotly bad <_<
Have you read the parable about the boy who cried wolf.

Eventually people just don&#39;t listen.

gumbydancin
03-22-2003, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by 4731571@22 March 2003 - 17:39
Getting rid of the ranks/stars altogether might be a good idea... post counts could be left in the user profiles.
It&#39;s not a horrible idea, not quite. There is a reason every board I&#39;ve seen in recent memory has a post/ranking system though. It shows respect for the dedicated members of the board, but more importantly, it shows you (to an extent) how seriously you should take the advice of someone who posted in response to your thread. New members have great advice sometimes, but in general someone who has been around longer can tell you a quicker/easier way to solve your problem or find the information you are looking for. It would be kind of frustrating to have to look at everyone&#39;s profile to know how experienced they are with answering questions.

ClubDiggler
03-22-2003, 11:03 PM
Adding starts (2 and 4) would be good idea&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

:blink:

lunatacs
03-22-2003, 11:16 PM
I don&#39;t see why we can&#39;t customise our own


can we give this a thought guys? i really support this idea and that it will give us, the users of this forum (members) have some options about our user setthings. I don&#39;t really care about having loads of stars, but give this option a thought.....

mrcall1969
03-22-2003, 11:23 PM
I think the old General and Klite Problem sections should come back.

It seems to me that people dont know where to post for help and end up putting it in the Lounge where others dont get a strike for helping.

Just a thought.

gumbydancin
03-22-2003, 11:42 PM
This is a good idea. That is where I posted the most, prior to everything being changed all the time, because I really only use the board for hashes and answering people&#39;s questions when I can. I mentioned previously that I think it was best when posts in the worlds didn&#39;t count, but that I thought too many threads were moved there. I think many of them deserved to stay in a general problems and questions section and still be counted towards someone&#39;s post total, as there is a great deal of time and effort spent on anwering them.

gumbydancin
03-22-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by lunatacs@22 March 2003 - 18:16

I don&#39;t see why we can&#39;t customise our own


can we give this a thought guys? i really support this idea and that it will give us, the users of this forum (members) have some options about our user setthings. I don&#39;t really care about having loads of stars, but give this option a thought.....
Lets be logical here. There is an inherent problem with this idea that strongly counteracts the efforts to lighten the workload on the mods. They would have to approve every single one, then people would want to change them, blah blah blah. I would fear the day this is allowed if I was a mod. The pm possiblities are terrifying.

J'Pol
03-23-2003, 12:03 AM
If we have to change at all here is my suggestion.

New Member 0 - 99
Junior Member 100 - 199
Full Member 200 - 499
Experienced Member 500 - 999
Senior Member 1000

With a 1 to 5 star system.

Make them mean something. Mods to use their power to disallow posts which are spam or drivel. "Agreed" etc to be allowed, if it is appropriate, in context.

Chilly
03-23-2003, 12:05 AM
(NikkiD @ 22 March 2003 - 21:03)
Okay everyone, I&#39;ve read your replies and a lot of you have valid points. So here&#39;s an idea. What are your thoughts? What are your suggestions? Think hard here, and give us your ideas. Maybe we can come up with some good ideas that everyone will be pleased with.
What About This :unsure: :lol:

Why not get STARS for how long you have been here, that way after a certain period of time say 3 months or so the Mods can review a percentage of your posts and see how helpfully to the Forum you have been ie (Posting Verified Hashes, Problem Solving, General Information,etc etc.)
Yes i no some of you have been here since the start, and maybe you should have a head start of a star or so to keep you happy. :lol:

This way people would&#39;nt post &#036;hit (spam) just to get a star or a title.
Alot of people see another title higher (K-Lite Board God) like a finish line ahead with tape (495 posts :o ) what can i put to get another post, i no :lol: :lol: :lol: that will do (496). <_<

Just an Idea, alot of people post Problems within Discussions, why not add another room something like Advise and Help, you have Verifieds in a Can, Verified Hashes, and Requests.
This would be alot clearer to Newcomers and Members on where to post :unsure:
It would save you Guys and Girl :lol: Sorry Lady ;) , upstairs moving topic&#39;s around as much.

Do posts REALLY matter that much, just cause someone has the status K-Lite Board God does&#39;nt mean they no everything, if Bill Gates came on here as a Newcomer would you not take his advise :blink: ?

What do you think ;)

DarthInsinuate
03-23-2003, 12:06 AM
i think everyone looks the same now, THE SAME&#33;&#33;&#33;
its like &#39;being john malkovich&#39;

lunatacs
03-23-2003, 12:07 AM
Lets be logical here. There is an inherent problem with this idea that strongly counteracts the efforts to lighten the workload on the mods. They would have to approve every single one, then people would want to change them, blah blah blah. I would fear the day this is allowed if I was a mod. The pm possiblities are terrifying.


to every step, we must form a rule and a law that would make the mods work lessen.

for every change, a rule is made to make it easier, better for the mods and other users of this forum. if you wanted to be .."logical".

ugluk
03-23-2003, 12:13 AM
ok. here&#39;s my proposal for Ranks:

0-10 KL-Newbie (1 Star)
11-50 KL-Rookie (2 Stars)
51-100 KL-User (3 Stars)
101-500 Experienced User (4 Stars)
501-1000 Guru (5 Stars)
1001-2500 Supreme Beeing (6 Stars)
2501-5000 Post Whore (7 Stars)
5001-9999 Supreme KL Master / Super Spammer (8 Stars)
10,000+ Complete Board Junkie

tilen76
03-23-2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Chilly@23 March 2003 - 01:05
if Bill Gates came on here as a Newcomer would you not take his advise :blink: ?

Hell no. I would flame him to death. :lol:

I hate Micro&#036;oft. :angry:


Serious:
As I suggested, I&#39;m for the 4 star ranking system. But the number of posts to reach the next star must be discussed first. The titles are also open for suggestions

Just an idea:
- 0-99 - 1 star (Newcomer)
- 100-499 - 2 stars (K-Lite Regular)
- 500-1500 - 3 stars (An Experienced Member)
- 1500+ - 4 stars (???)
- Admins and Mods - 5 stars

The Great Dude
03-23-2003, 12:17 AM
ugluk, are you insane on those numbers at the end? :lol:

ugluk
03-23-2003, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by The_Great_Dude@23 March 2003 - 01:17
ugluk, are you insane on those numbers at the end? :lol:
Not at all&#33; You and Shinigami have great potential to make it all the way&#33; :lol: :lol:

The Great Dude
03-23-2003, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by ugluk+22 March 2003 - 16:19--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ugluk @ 22 March 2003 - 16:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--The_Great_Dude@23 March 2003 - 01:17
ugluk, are you insane on those numbers at the end?&nbsp; :lol:
Not at all&#33; You and Shinigami have great potential to make it all the way&#33; :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
2500, hmm seems reachable... 5000+ , I&#39;m not that crazy. :P

Anyways I probably see:

Change System of the current = Makes some happy, other complain
Take away everything = Makes some happy, other complain

Basically, I think there will always be a complaint to something done. ;)

ooo
03-23-2003, 12:29 AM
im not a happy customers...

what happened to CUSTOMERS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT HUH&#33; lolz

johnnytightlips2
03-23-2003, 12:31 AM
guys relax all of the mods are trying to make improvements to the forum, its just a rank and besides if somebody wants to know how much u mean to this forum they could always look at how much posts u got.

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
03-23-2003, 12:33 AM
:o 5000 for post-whore&#33;&#33; Your insane&#33; That requires dedication :P

Wonder what&#39;s being discussed right now in the secret forum of the Mods/Admins :huh:

J'Pol
03-23-2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by johnnytightlips2@23 March 2003 - 01:31
guys relax all of the mods are trying to make improvements to the forum, its just a rank and besides if somebody wants to know how much u mean to this forum they could always look at how much posts u got.
I&#39;ve said it before and I will say it again. Look at quality, not quantity.

ooo
03-23-2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Shinigami@23 March 2003 - 01:33
:o 5000 for post-whore&#33;&#33; Your insane&#33; That requires dedication :P

Wonder what&#39;s being discussed right now in the secret forum of the Mods/Admins :huh:
someone hack in to the "secret forum" lolz :P we must decide w/ em... anyone ni the klite mirc chat rite now?

The Great Dude
03-23-2003, 12:52 AM
They&#39;re thinking: Look at those pathetic people. :devil:

:lol: :P

N£MO
03-23-2003, 12:59 AM
This is turning into a heated debate and its no surprise... :rolleyes:


I still think this sucks.. :sleeping:

Chilly
03-23-2003, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by JmiF@23 March 2003 - 00:36
I&#39;ve said it before and I will say it again. Look at quality, not quantity.
You hit the nail on the head ;)

gumbydancin
03-23-2003, 01:26 AM
I think you all should go back through this thread and read my earlier statements.

scribblec
03-23-2003, 09:41 AM
just change your own title

ketoprak
03-23-2003, 01:04 PM
Thats not Paul, its VB, and was probably done to cut down on the spamming

Well I will have to make 25 useless posts to get rid of this &#39;newcomer&#39; stigma (i.e. spam). That&#39;s counter-productive.

VB
03-23-2003, 01:11 PM
please check this new thread:

--&#62; http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act...&f=1&t=23313&s= (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=23313&s=) :)