For Gf6 Users (geforce 6 Series)

[atiVidia]

http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/1...x_9c_redist.exe (http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/1/e/81ed90eb-dd87-4a23-aedc-298a9603b4e4/directx_9c_redist.exe)

enjoy :)



this is the m$ v. not the sp2 hack

[tesco]

cool, thanks.
no point in me upgrading is there? oh well ill get it anyway. :lol:


i just realized something, why did they start the gf6 series at 6800? why not 6000 or 6200 or something...are they planning to work backwards? :huh:

[atiVidia]

i believe (not sure) that the pcx series falls under the 6 series

however, nvidia may create a new 6 series to down the pathetic x600s and below

[tesco]

shit i didn't even need this. :lol:

You should have said it is included with SP2. :angry:

:lol:

[bigdawgfoxx]

so where can I get an official copy of SP2?

[tesco]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@26 July 2004 - 17:21
so where can I get an official copy of SP2?
still beta. ;)

should be out in a few weeks though.

[silent h3ro]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+26 July 2004 - 22:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 26 July 2004 - 22:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@26 July 2004 - 17:21
so where can I get an official copy of SP2?
still beta. ;)

should be out in a few weeks though. [/b][/quote]
What is so good about SP2?

[tesco]

Originally posted by HardcoreGamer+26 July 2004 - 18:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HardcoreGamer @ 26 July 2004 - 18:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@26 July 2004 - 22:40
<!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@26 July 2004 - 17:21
so where can I get an official copy of SP2?
still beta. ;)

should be out in a few weeks though.
What is so good about SP2? [/b][/quote]
Fixes a lot of annoyances imo.

popup blocker for ie.
can disable that icon in systray that popsup when u unplug a network cable.
wireless network wizard.

[silent h3ro]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+27 July 2004 - 00:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 27 July 2004 - 00:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by HardcoreGamer@26 July 2004 - 18:00

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@26 July 2004 - 22:40
<!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@26 July 2004 - 17:21
so where can I get an official copy of SP2?
still beta. ;)

should be out in a few weeks though.
What is so good about SP2?
Fixes a lot of annoyances imo.

popup blocker for ie.
can disable that icon in systray that popsup when u unplug a network cable.
wireless network wizard. [/b][/quote]
is that it?

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by HardcoreGamer+26 July 2004 - 20:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HardcoreGamer @ 26 July 2004 - 20:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@27 July 2004 - 00:03

Originally posted by HardcoreGamer@26 July 2004 - 18:00

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@26 July 2004 - 22:40
<!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@26 July 2004 - 17:21
so where can I get an official copy of SP2?
still beta. ;)

should be out in a few weeks though.
What is so good about SP2?
Fixes a lot of annoyances imo.

popup blocker for ie.
can disable that icon in systray that popsup when u unplug a network cable.
wireless network wizard.
is that it? [/b][/quote]
There more
Read about it here (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/sp2preview.mspx).

[atiVidia]

lets u manage ur antivirus, windows update, AND the windows firewall MUCH more easily :)

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@26 July 2004 - 14:25
i just realized something, why did they start the gf6 series at 6800? why not 6000 or 6200 or something...are they planning to work backwards? :huh:
its always been this way: they introduce the best, and work downwards from there. 5800 came last year, and was quickly replaced (5900) due to that fan we can effectively call a superblower (its performance was on par with the 9700 so performancewise it was fine).

i think before that came the titanium 4600? not sure if it was 46 or 48 that was the best model, but i think the 46 came first, and then the 48

before that, there was the geforce3 titanium 500. from there they mate the ti200, and the ti

i cant remember further back than that tho :(

[Tormentor]

If i install sp2 and choose to archive the files, if something goes wrong can i just ununstall it and have it go back to sp1 or am i fucked?

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by atiVidia@26 July 2004 - 14:55
http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/1...x_9c_redist.exe (http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/1/e/81ed90eb-dd87-4a23-aedc-298a9603b4e4/directx_9c_redist.exe)

enjoy :)



this is the m&#036; v. not the sp2 hack
It still says Directx 9.0 b (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx) at MS website. Where did you find this? (the page that would have info on this)

[atiVidia]

dont ask me i just found it

the install sez dx9c, the file on m&#036; website sez dx9c, the dxdiag sez dx9c...

only some bug fixes and the death of ATI&#39;s best cards came with dx9c :)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&DisplayLang=en (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9226a611-62fe-4f61-aba1-914185249413&DisplayLang=en)

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by Tormentor@26 July 2004 - 20:18
If i install sp2 and choose to archive the files, if something goes wrong can i just ununstall it and have it go back to sp1 or am i fucked?
Don`t install it now, It is still beta &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

@atiVidia


dont ask me i just found it

the install sez dx9c, the file on m&#036; website sez dx9c, the dxdiag sez dx9c...

only some bug fixes and the death of ATI&#39;s best cards came with dx9c smile.gif

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&DisplayLang=en

I only understand 45% of that..

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by Ariel_001+26 July 2004 - 17:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ariel_001 @ 26 July 2004 - 17:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@26 July 2004 - 20:18
If i install sp2 and choose to archive the files, if something goes wrong can i just ununstall it and have it go back to sp1 or am i fucked?
Don`t install it now, It is still beta &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

@atiVidia


dont ask me i just found it

the install sez dx9c, the file on m&#036; website sez dx9c, the dxdiag sez dx9c...

only some bug fixes and the death of ATI&#39;s best cards came with dx9c smile.gif

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&DisplayLang=en

I only understand 45% of that.. [/b][/quote]
I just want to give it a try and i want to know if it will be easy or safe to uninstall later.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Ariel_001+26 July 2004 - 19:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ariel_001 @ 26 July 2004 - 19:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@26 July 2004 - 20:18
If i install sp2 and choose to archive the files, if something goes wrong can i just ununstall it and have it go back to sp1 or am i fucked?
Don`t install it now, It is still beta &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

@atiVidia


dont ask me i just found it

the install sez dx9c, the file on m&#036; website sez dx9c, the dxdiag sez dx9c...

only some bug fixes and the death of ATI&#39;s best cards came with dx9c smile.gif

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&DisplayLang=en

I only understand 45% of that.. [/b][/quote]
in teh latest build i haven&#39;t found any bugs or problems yet. :)

[atiVidia]

unsafe. once installed, even when uninstalled, you will watch your computer initiate its own demise

dx9c will bring about the doom of ati&#39;s current gen cards :)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by atiVidia@26 July 2004 - 20:43
dx9c will bring about the doom of ati&#39;s current gen cards :)
because it uses one thing...ps3...i think not..it might be good but thats a very strong statement


Conclusion

With Shader Model 2.0b render path available now in a commercial product and functioning flawlessly ATI Technologies sends a clear message to gamers: excellent performance the RADEON X800 XT and the RADEON X800 PRO deliver now can be improved in future. Like with the case of the Shader Model 3.0 performance advantage provided today is not really huge, however, future titles that use more per-pixel lighting as well as geometry with higher complexity are unlikely to turn into something that the RADEON X800-series cannot bite.

Even though ATI considerably improved performance of the RADEON X800-series graphics cards in FarCry’s “Pure Mode”, NVIDIA’s GeForce 6800 Ultra still can claim performance leadership here, as in quite a lot of cases speed delivered by the GeForce 6800 Ultra is a bit higher compared to the rivalling RADEON X800 XT.

The same situation is effective for a bit less expensive graphics options – the GeForce 6800 GT and the RADEON X800 PRO – 16 pixel pipelines definitely help the former to beat the latter in quite a lot of cases.

It is important to point out that ATI’s RADEON X800 XT and PRO graphics cards handle extreme geometry load better compared to NVIDIA’s GeForce 6800 Ultra and GT, which may mean that from this point ATI’s visual processing units have higher future-proof than NVIDIA’s latest graphics processing units do.

Additionally, ATI’s RADEON X800 XT traditionally calculates complex pixel shaders faster than everything else available today. Unfortunately, the RADEON X800 PRO still lags behind the competing GeForce 6800 GT product, whereas the RADEON 9800 XT does not seem to be a really strong rival for the GeForce 6800, at least, in FarCry.

To sum everything up, it looks like both ATI and NVIDIA have some performance reserves with their latest families of graphics chips. In the following 6-9 months until the new breed of graphics processors emerges, we are not only going to see a fierce battle between ATI’s RADEON X800 and NVIDIA’s GeForce 6 architecture, but probably are also going to witness the competition between Shader Model 2.0b and Shader Model 3.0 render paths in terms of performance and possibly quality.
From the conclusion of this (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/farcry20b.html) article

[SingaBoiy]

I have SP2 installed and the only prob ive seen is with WMP. Sometimes it wont play a file.

[atiVidia]

in 2162 and 2149 i couldnt play divx files (i have ALL MY MOVIES ON DIVX/XVID DAMNIT&#33;)

[tesco]

everything works perfect for me. :blink:

[haha21]

I have a Ti4200 128M
You think there is a point of downloading 9.0c while ti4200 only uses 8.1?