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Keikan
08-02-2004, 07:22 AM
I can't find a supernode that has more than 2 mil people, does anyone know one?

king_pow
08-02-2004, 07:56 AM
Exact same problem for me, im getting sub 100 000 users :( :(

hammond
08-02-2004, 08:58 AM
Hi friends

To find out what supernodes that, at a given time, carry most users, You can do like this:

1) Let Auto Search More run with No limit, regarding time. When the user count pops up to a higher number, just check (with Tools/KaZuperNodes) what the actual Super node is. Then You can save this in the Favorite list, within the KaZuperNodes application (Add to Favourites)).

or

2) Do File/Jump SuperNode until You get a higher user number. Then check with Tools/KaZuperNodes and proceed as in point 1) above if You would like to save that supernode for further use.


PS. I know that there is a debate going on since some time regarding this fluctuating user number issue. I havn't been able though too see that it affects the search results in a negative way, if Auto Search More is left running with No limit.

(I'm running Kazaa Lite 2.43)

/Hammond

archivehunter
08-02-2004, 10:06 AM
Thank you for that we have been having issues ever since we swoped to the pinned list of super nodes.

One problem though, I think I didn't allow any of the extra tools to be installed with K-lite originally how would I go about getting KaZuperNodes?

1997 ga16de
08-03-2004, 05:42 AM
ya, I'm having problems here, too. I keep jumping supernodes and I almost never find one with the normal 2mil+ users. I go into Kazupernodes and pick a supernode at random and it usually works, but in about 2 minutes, I'm kicked right back to the 90,000 users

executive
08-03-2004, 07:31 AM
I've tried collecting "good" supernodes with Kazupernodes, but they don't keep steady numbers of users either

Vargas
08-03-2004, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@2 August 2004 - 02:23
I can't find a supernode that has more than 2 mil people, does anyone know one?
thats because there is no supernode with 2 million users :P
the problem isn't in the supernodes we connect to, the problem is the supernodes that they connect to. :ph34r:

isamma
08-03-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Vargas+3 August 2004 - 10:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vargas @ 3 August 2004 - 10:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@2 August 2004 - 02:23
I can&#39;t find a supernode that has more than 2 mil people, does anyone know one?
thats because there is no supernode with 2 million users :P
the problem isn&#39;t in the supernodes we connect to, the problem is the supernodes that they connect to. :ph34r: [/b][/quote]
see this (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=120171) or this (http://www.my-k-lite.com/internationalforums/index.php?showtopic=9549) for more info ;)

Vargas
08-03-2004, 07:36 PM
you have your theory, i have mine. i base mine on these facts:

i run an open source client (kceasy) in debug mode and today i was connected to a klite243 (v2.0.2 base) supernode (i could tell because it identified it&#39;s network name as k-lite.tk instead of the standard KaZaA) and the usernumbers it send me were in the 2 million amount.
later when i was connected to another supernode the usernumbers it sent me went from the 60,000-90,000 range for a about a ½ hour, then it jumped to the 2.5 million range for a while, then it went back to the 60,000-90,000 range all without changing supernodes

i think it is caused by sharman updating/upgrading, or having problems with, the supernodes that handle the total user numbers. and when your supernode cant connect to those supernodes. it will show the users on your current supernode and all inter connected supernodes to that one.

and my kazaa lite v1.7.2 still connects to the 2 million plus userbase.

i don&#39;t think it&#39;s as much a seprate network, but more like a island in the network.
it used to happen alot back when kazaa was in beta, and had less then 30,000 users.

isamma
08-03-2004, 08:15 PM
i think we can agree that it is caused by sharman new supernods .. and any client other than kmd2.6.4 or kmd2.7 don&#39;t have access to these supernods???
i don&#39;t really know how but i think that is the reason ;) :(

Barbarossa
08-04-2004, 09:06 AM
I wonder if the problem is to do with the supernodes jumping supernodes too often...

Supernodes are just someone else&#39;s clients after all, if they are jumping supernodes too much while searching for more sources (does an automatic tool do that?), then there could very likely not be enough time elapsing for a stable network to exist, it&#39;s almost like having a changing kaleidoscope of a network. This may cause the "number of users" algorithms to behave erratically, which is what seems to be happening.

Personally, I don&#39;t think it&#39;s anything Sharman have done, especially as the problem has been reported on all versions of KMD. I also don&#39;t believe Sharman have any control over the network anymore, I believe this capability was removed to protect the network from being shut down.

sirtoke
08-12-2004, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Vargas+3 August 2004 - 08:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vargas @ 3 August 2004 - 08:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@2 August 2004 - 02:23
I can&#39;t find a supernode that has more than 2 mil people, does anyone know one?
thats because there is no supernode with 2 million users :P
the problem isn&#39;t in the supernodes we connect to, the problem is the supernodes that they connect to. :ph34r: [/b][/quote]
my supernode has 2,640,950 users sometimes i see it at 3 mil B)