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(>Zero Cool<)
08-04-2004, 02:46 AM
Hey,

I currently have a 9600 pro video card, a p4 2.6 ht cpu and 1Gb corsair pc 4000 ram. I figure that any performance bottleneck for gaming is the gfx. First question is would I be right in my assumption?

If so would it be advisable to upgrade to an 9800 pro card just now? I dunno what kinda performance increase to expect nor whether it is a good time to buy this kinda card?

Any help/advice/recommendations/opinions etc would be very much appreciated.

I would like to oc my cpu and gfx in case that affects your opinion.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

zc :)

peat moss
08-04-2004, 03:26 AM
Try a softmod, different drivers, Ati tool first? Just a thought. :)



http://atitool.ocfaq.com/


Found some benchmarks here ,between the two .

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1499&page=7

(>Zero Cool<)
08-04-2004, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by peat moss@4 August 2004 - 03:27
Try a softmod, different drivers, Ati tool&nbsp; first? Just a thought. :)



http://atitool.ocfaq.com/


Found some benchmarks here ,between the two .

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1499&page=7
Hi Pete thanks for the help. :)

I have actually tried the ati tool, using the sofmod cataylst 4.7 drivers thanks.

It&#39;s a nice wee tool. :)

I can get my Core speed up to about 530 from stock of 400, but only manage 305 from stock 300 for my memory.

I have read a few reviews of my card e.g my card reviewed (http://techreport.com/reviews/2003q3/tyan-9600pro/index.x?pg=4)

and it seems from each review that the results I am getting are about as good as I can generally hope for.

I got my auamark score up from 26000 to about 32000, which I am happy about (I think)

with my system

(btw I have an Abit IC7 MAX 3 mobo, forgot to mention that above :frusty: )

I think that the bottleneck is the gfx card, though I am not sure. :unsure:

Thanks for the links ;)

lvlister2003
08-05-2004, 05:50 PM
Upgrading is a very good idea, you dont know what peroformance and upgrade might hold for your graphics power.

kaiweiler
08-05-2004, 05:53 PM
An upgrade eh?
I guess it&#39;d be worth it if you answer yes to one of the following questions.

1. Do have more money then brains?
2. Is there anything right now my current GFX can not do?
3. Is my life about nothing more then benchmarks?

If any of the follwing questions got answered with a yes, then go for it.

(>Zero Cool<)
08-05-2004, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by kaiweiler@5 August 2004 - 17:54
An upgrade eh?
I guess it&#39;d be worth it if you answer yes to one of the following questions.

1. Do have more money then brains?
2. Is there anything right now my current GFX can not do?
3. Is my life about nothing more then benchmarks?

If any of the follwing questions got answered with a yes, then go for it.
ehm thank you for that (de) constructive feedback :blink:

kaiweiler
08-05-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by (>Zero Cool<)+5 August 2004 - 14:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ((>Zero Cool<) @ 5 August 2004 - 14:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kaiweiler@5 August 2004 - 17:54
An upgrade eh?
I guess it&#39;d be worth it if you answer yes to one of the following questions.

1. Do have more money then brains?
2. Is there anything right now my current GFX can not do?
3. Is my life about nothing more then benchmarks?

If any of the follwing questions got answered with a yes, then go for it.
ehm thank you for that (de) constructive feedback :blink: [/b][/quote]
Well it&#39;s true
Unless there is something that your current gfx can not do, then there is no real point in upgrading in my opinion.

Storm
08-05-2004, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by lvlister2003@5 August 2004 - 18:51
Upgrading is a very good idea, you dont know what peroformance and upgrade might hold for your graphics power.
:blink:

you&#39;re basing this on what exactly???

id have to agree with kaiweiler:

unless you really need the extra power, why trade your &#39;obsolete&#39; care for another obsolete care?

the upgrade will prolly cost you more than its worth.....

(>Zero Cool<)
08-05-2004, 07:27 PM
ok folks, your guidance is appreciated, I think I&#39;ll stick with what I have at the mo :)

My reason for upgrading was purely for gaming reasons , I fancy being able to play newer games such as far cry, doom etc at near top set ups. The reason behind getting an 9800 rather than an x800 was that a) I can&#39;t afford it :rolleyes: , B) I figured that it was a good card now down to a more reasonable price and I may be able to sell off my existing card to recoup some of the cash. However I understand where you are coming from, I&#39;ll certainly give it a good think first. Thanks again :)

racer II
08-06-2004, 05:14 PM
I upgraded from a 9600 pro , yes its a nice performance boost.
But its only because i needed another card for my other computer , so i used the 9600 pro in that one and got a new 9800 pro for this computer.

But the 9600 pro runs alot cooler then the 9800 pro , case temp (im my old case) went up 7C

:edit:
And that with 2 x 12 cm intake fans and 1 12cm and 1 92mm and 1 80mm outake fan. :ph34r:

(>Zero Cool<)
08-06-2004, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by racer II@6 August 2004 - 17:15
I upgraded from a 9600 pro , yes its a nice performance boost.
But its only because i needed another card for my other computer , so i used the 9600 pro in that one and got a new 9800 pro for this computer.

But the 9600 pro runs alot cooler then the 9800 pro , case temp (im my old case) went up 7C

:edit:
And that with 2 x 12 cm intake fans and 1 12cm and 1 92mm and 1 80mm outake fan. :ph34r:
ok thanks for the info racer :)

Wolfmight
08-08-2004, 03:09 AM
I dont like to buy new hardware unless it&#39;s around twice the speed of my old hardware.
The 9800 Pro XT isnt twice as fast as my 9500 Pro, so I dont need it.

ricochet
08-08-2004, 02:13 PM
I got the 9800xt and I love it. But I went from a old navida 64 card a 440 ...

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Wolfmight@7 August 2004 - 18:10
I dont like to buy new hardware unless it&#39;s around twice the speed of my old hardware.
The 9800 Pro XT isnt twice as fast as my 9500 Pro, so I dont need it.
So then go for a 6800 :rolleyes:

silent h3ro
08-08-2004, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by SingaBoiy+8 August 2004 - 10:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SingaBoiy @ 8 August 2004 - 10:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Wolfmight@7 August 2004 - 18:10
I dont like to buy new hardware unless it&#39;s around twice the speed of my old hardware.
The 9800 Pro XT isnt twice as fast as my 9500 Pro, so I dont need it.
So then go for a 6800 :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
Good point&#33;

5 posts till 3 stars&#33;&#33;&#33;

tesco
08-09-2004, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by Wolfmight@7 August 2004 - 22:10
I dont like to buy new hardware unless it&#39;s around twice the speed of my old hardware.
The 9800 Pro XT isnt twice as fast as my 9500 Pro, so I dont need it.
bad way to look at it.

how about upgrade once u find a game that ur card can&#39;t handle... ;)

besides, the 9800xt is more than twice the performance of a 9500pro in newer games...

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/ut03_high_quality.gif

so u were wrong anyway. :P

Duffman
08-09-2004, 03:49 AM
hmm, i wish i could find a graph with the 9000aiw on it so i can see how big a difference it&#39;ll be when i get a 9800 pro or xt.

Wolfmight
08-10-2004, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+8 August 2004 - 21:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 &#064; 8 August 2004 - 21:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Wolfmight@7 August 2004 - 22:10
I dont like to buy new hardware unless it&#39;s around twice the speed of my old hardware.
The 9800 Pro XT isnt twice as fast as my 9500 Pro, so I dont need it.
bad way to look at it.

how about upgrade once u find a game that ur card can&#39;t handle... ;)

besides, the 9800xt is more than twice the performance of a 9500pro in newer games...

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/ut03_high_quality.gif

so u were wrong anyway. :P [/b][/quote]
Technically 46.4x2 = 92.8
Radeon 9800 XT got 82.7 in unreal

I do agree with you in "New" games, and really ment "old" games in my other post.
I&#39;ll buy plenty new games when I get the new card.
I noticed 9500 pro was discontinued and is harder to find. It&#39;s a rare, averaged speed card :D

Plus theres alot of stuff I&#39;d like to also add like a 250GB HD, but I need to rack up some money money money. ;)