Wireless Networking

[johannes001]

Hi, for a start i hope i have posted this in the right place , if not please move me :rolleyes: .
Anyway I'm going to install a wireless network using the 802.11g standard and I was just wanting to check i have everything i need as i am an absolut novice to WLAN. I understand and can execute a Wired LAN but this Wireless stuff is news to me lol.

Well i figured that i needed some kind of Access Pint or Router so my choice due to recommendation is the :

Linksys WRT54G WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER 54MBPS 802.11G

It seems to do what i need ans even though i dont have broadband in my area yet it will be part of my network as soon as it is available to me.

Then i came to a halt when thinking about how many wireless network cards i need. I have three computers and a laptop needing networked. The laptop has a built in wireless card on the 802.11b standard which is ok (i think and also the laptop will rarely be using the network) as the router spec claims back compatibility with the rest of the network. The other 3 computers do not have wireless cards but 2 have 10/100 Mb NIC's. So my question is do i need 3 Wireless network cards or can i connect one computer directly to the router meaning i only have to get 2 Wireless network cards and still have full access to the rest of the network.

My choice of Wirless card was the :
Belkin 54g Wireless PCI Adapter

This choice was more cost related but if it is not know to have good compatibility with the router i can splash out extra £30 for the Linksys cards.

My reason for wireless and not wired is I cannot install wires throught the house and also the house is large and i am willing to pay the extra for wireless rather than spend a few days putting in network wires and sockets. Yet the 20Mb/s + speed of 802.11g is apealing.

Anyways thanks for having a look at my post and thanks in advance for any help
Have a nice day ;-)

JOHAN

[lynx]

All wireless routers have at least one wired connection point.
Without one it would be almost impossible to perform setup functions.

So you can use that as a permanent connection for one of your pc's.

And you are right about it being backwards compatible with 802.11b, but you must remember to turn off 802.11 validation as this makes sure all your devices are using the same wireless version (which you aren't).

[johannes001]

Well thank you very much for the info Mr JP Fugley & Lynx , very much appreciated. On the note of avoiding confics i spent £37 extra on buying the Linksys cards and im sure it will probably be a bit easier to set-up using matching cards. Also thanks for the info about connecting one computer direct , it makes sence to me now lol :frusty: . Anyways thanks alot guys and im sure things will run a bit more smoothly now i know that !

JOHAN

[J'Pol]

It should be 192.168.1.1 for accessing the router from the PCs.

[johannes001]

thanks for that J'Pol , i have copied it down for reference. I am reading about the MAC filtering , what is the best way to find a MAC address or is it displayed in the client computer software or relating to a printed code on the hardware.
Thanks again
JOHAN

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by johannes001@7 August 2004 - 23:17
thanks for that J'Pol , i have copied it down for reference. I am reading about the MAC filtering , what is the best way to find a MAC address or is it displayed in the client computer software or relating to a printed code on the hardware.
Thanks again
JOHAN
Sorry, I can't really help you there.

It's not something I have ever had to bother with. I just let the router take care of most things. It seems to know what it is doing.

The only semi-technical thing I have done is forward a few ports to a specific PC. For things like Soulseek.

I am sure someone else will be able to assist tho'.

[lynx]

Use the getmac command (from the command prompt) to find mac addresses. You will need to have the Windows Management Instrumentation service enabled in order to run this command (it is enabled by default but it is one of the services recommended to be disabled for better security).

With the right permissions you can find the mac addresses for all your pc's from a central source (use getmac /? for details), but you may find it easier to go to each pc in turn.

[J'Pol]

See ;)

[johannes001]

Thanks again guy's.
I ordered the router and cards last night and are due for delivery on Tues/Wed (delivery to North Scotland is not very reliable!) I have downloaded a copy of the manual in preperation (I had very little to do :blink: ). I live in a fairly remote area but i think i am going to go for the MAC filtering . I'm can only get dial up here at the moment so anyone searching for wireless net round here is going to get a shock. :lol: . Anyway thanks and i will try out the MAC address filtering and pick out the addresses off each computer.
Thanks again! :D

[lynx]

You should have gone for McBranes special delivery.

That way you'd have had it by...


























Friday. :lol:

[johannes001]

I know the feeling too well. Oban is a favourite place for my parcels to be delayed (they lost it) and i am still waiting to get a parcel "in 2-3 working days". I am sure it will happen :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :frusty: :frusty: .
Anywho while im in a posting mood does anyone know a realistic internal house (not stone house) range of the linksys router and cards jus wondering lol :lol:

Thanks
JOHAN

[tesco]

everything u need to know is in teh manual...

u could even go to the linksys website and download the manual for ur specific router now if u want, just to brush up on it all before getting the thing.


also there is a software part of setting it up. probably a bit harder to do than the wired kind...
SP2, which will be relased in a couple days (tuesday i heard) includes a network setup wizard so maybe you'll be able to download that before the router and stuff comes. :)

[johannes001]

cool i got a copy of the manual , like you say the software part looks slightly more confusing than pluggin wires in a box :unsure: . Any way i read a few posts about SP2 , i dont have any speed of internet connection here (56kbs :frusty: ) but there is satellite broadband at my work so im tempted to give it a go there. I am a radio ham so i have already built some small antennas to boost the range slightly (I got bored damnit lol). Anywho betta stop gabbing and get out the house (Its actually slightly warm here in North scotland!!) B)

thanks
JOHAN

[tesco]

Originally posted by johannes001@9 August 2004 - 08:12
cool i got a copy of the manual , like you say the software part looks slightly more confusing than pluggin wires in a box :unsure: . Any way i read a few posts about SP2 , i dont have any speed of internet connection here (56kbs :frusty: ) but there is satellite broadband at my work so im tempted to give it a go there. I am a radio ham so i have already built some small antennas to boost the range slightly (I got bored damnit lol). Anywho betta stop gabbing and get out the house (Its actually slightly warm here in North scotland!!) B)

thanks
JOHAN
I have relatices over here from scotland now!
been here a week, one week left.

[johannes001]

Cool man B) .
Yeah I'm from like Caithness the furthest north part of the Mainland. Its got its good points but we live about 120 miles from any shoping mall or any large shops including computer shops!!! , 30 miles from a cinema and no proffesional footbal hockey or any other sports teams worth watching or concerts etc in over 130 miles!
anyways i hope ur relatives enjoy their stay! lol :D

JOHAN