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volskid2002
08-08-2004, 01:09 AM
i am trying to replace the fans in my desktop with some new UV blue fans that i bought from Xoxide.com. wen replacing the old ones with the new ones, i used the same power hookups, to my knowledge. wen i turned my computer back on it said some hardware error and that NTLDR was missing. wat does tat mean? im pretty sure i have my power hookups right. is there a tutorial online or a help website to show the right way?

Mivaro
08-08-2004, 01:35 AM
Info about NTLDR (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318728).
What it has to do with installing fans??? no idea....... :blink:

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 02:14 AM
You dont happen to have 2 harddrives do you?

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 02:25 AM
@SingaBoiy

yes i have 2 hard drives, and 40 gb and a 60gb. does tat have something to do with the fan problem or the NTLDR prob?

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 02:47 AM
Your bios might have changed boot priority for your 2 drives. Go in and check to see which hdd it boots from first. Change it to the other drive. Then see if that works.

It would do this because the MBR (master boot record) is not on the drive it is trying to boot to but on the other one.

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 02:51 AM
alright ill go into bios and see wat the boot order is and change it around. ill report back wen im done.

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 02:53 AM
Ok.

Make sure you only change the hdd only section and not the boot priority for all devices (i.e. boot from cd-rom, floppy, and then 3rd device)

Mhhh... prob shouldnt of said that. Might of confused you :unsure:

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 02:58 AM
Here is an example of what I mean. Just took these:

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volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:00 AM
alright i unserstood wat u were saying, i changed the hdd boot sequence and got it working. thanx alot.

only one more prob, they are supposoed to be UV light fans, so they are supposed to be lit up and shining bright. they dont light up or anything? something i need to fix in bios or mobo?

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by volskid2002@7 August 2004 - 18:01
alright i unserstood wat u were saying, i changed the hdd boot sequence and got it working. thanx alot.

only one more prob, they are supposoed to be UV light fans, so they are supposed to be lit up and shining bright. they dont light up or anything? something i need to fix in bios or mobo?
Nope. Should just be plug and go. They must be broken.

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:06 AM
i jsut ordered them monday from xioxide.com and they came in today, think they would be broken? i plugged them in and crap, they spin perfect, just i thought they should light up.

heres the link to em:

http://xoxide.com/bluuvsen80fa.html

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:08 AM
As long as they are plugged in and have sufficient power, they should light up, assuming they do.

Atleast you got an answer and fixed your main prob the easy way. I had to find out the hard way... twice :unsure:

EDIT: Yea, that isnt an led fan, it will light up you have one in your case though. Its only UV sensitive.

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:09 AM
yea lucky for peps like you ;) . you have to reformat twice?

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by volskid2002@7 August 2004 - 18:10
yea lucky for peps like you ;) . you have to reformat twice?
It got my main hdd with 70 gigs of data and my parents. :frusty: My mom wasnt too happy about that. :smilie4:

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:10 AM
wt you mean? gotta have a UV light in my case?

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:12 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/SingaBoiy/My%20PC%20and%20Hardware/uvcasefan.gif

See, there are no led lights in it. The name says "Blue UV Sensitive 80mm Fan"

Sorry

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:13 AM
ouch tat sux about the hdd, im getting a new 80 gb in like a week, but i think i can only have 2 hdds hook-ed up so i think ima put the 60gb and the 80gb in my cpu, only prob is windows xp is on my 40gb so ima have to reformat or find a prog to ghost it over to my 60gb hdd.

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:15 AM
yea tat sux, i wanted them to be blue becuz my case has 2 blue light strips on it and i wanted it all to light up blue at night wen teh lights were off, so it woudl look kool. i guess ima have to wait for a sale on led light fans and get some new ones!

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:17 AM
You can get a pci IDE card like I got:

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volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:18 AM
wow, never heard of those before. looks really kool! where did u get it from? average price? ill take a look at newegg.com real quick and see if they got any. also do you know any good sites for fans?

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:22 AM
wat kinda ide card did you get? pci to ATA100/ATA133? pci to SATA?

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:25 AM
These are the only 2 I could find:

ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39967&item=5114588010&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphotohosting) and this (http://www.mars-tech.com/aec-6280.htm).

It is a Ultra ATA/133 PCI Adaptor

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:29 AM
yea i would definately go after the ebay one but i dont have an ebay account:(. the other is $40, which i dont really have right now.

something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-104-214&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=15-104-214&depa=1)

or this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-102-026&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=16-102-026&depa=1)

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:33 AM
I got an ebay account if you want to wire the money through me. I understand if you dont trust me though :)

If you do go for either of those you posted, get the first one. The second only has up to U ATA/100

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:34 AM
how big a difference is ATA100 to ATA133? would it really matter if i went with a ATA100 as compared to an ATA133?

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:35 AM
If you have a drive that is 133 it will be a nice increase in data transfer. ;)

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:36 AM
is that ebay card good? i dont wanna buy any peice of crap or something that wont work! check your pms!

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:39 AM
not sure wat my new 80gb will be, but im pretty sure its ATA133. being its brand new and stuff!

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:40 AM
I am aover 90% sure that ATA/133 is 133MB/s and 100 is 100MB/s. So that is a 33% increase in transfer rate.

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:45 AM
This (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41995&item=3497328520&rd=1) would be the one I would go with. Seller rating is extremly good, looks trustworthy. $20 total

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:46 AM
alright ill take a look

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:47 AM
If you send the paypal money you got now, I will pay for the rest and have it shipped to you. Then you pay the rest to me through paypal.

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:50 AM
send you the paypal money i have now? you'll pay for shipping to my house? and then wen i get the money in my paypal account reimburse you?

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:50 AM
Yep. So you will pay 10. I will cover the other 10. Then you will re-imburse me

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:51 AM
wat will the total come up to? how much will i owe you? ima go check my paypal account really quick.

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:52 AM
Total will come to around $20.50

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:53 AM
how long would you liek till you get your other $10? im not sure how long it will take me.

edit:
paypal is being really slow right now :frusty: :frusty:

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 03:54 AM
Within a week would be nice. Paypal says it take 3-4 days to transfer funds from bank account to paypal.

volskid2002
08-08-2004, 03:57 AM
could you possibly give me like a week and a half? how long is the shipping from the ebay guy? 3-4 days also?

SingaBoiy
08-08-2004, 04:22 AM
All your bases are belong to us :P