Its Time...

[Duffman]

OK well I finally got my birthday money and im gonna upgrade very soon. Heres what im looking at now.


RAM (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-156-006&depa=0) It is cheap but got lots of 5 stars review, any thoughts about it. Gonne be get a gig of it.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-379&depa=0) Barton 2500+, gonna oc it to a 3200 at least.

Mobo (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-185&depa=0)I think this NF7 is good, should be good to oc.

So all said and done im up to 300 so far. Gonna get a sleeving kit, Arctic Silver.

Any recomendation on a good not to expensive heatsink?

And i'm gonna try and get a 9800xt off of ebay for a little bit cheaper, any specific brand i should go with, saphire, abit, etc?

[mr. nails]

save ur 300 and get an amd64 and just use ur ram u have now. when the time comes and u have more money get better ram. as for the video card i would save that money also and get a 6800gt for the same price. ur spending the same money this way and getting 3 times the performance!

[Duffman]

So I should buy an Amd 64 and put in 512mb of pc2100 and run a raedon 9000, no lets be realistic, Im don't have the money for amd 64bit. I don't want to buy one part a month either, im looking for a decent gaming rig that will last a year or two and right now this should be good. I see no point in even going 64 bit yet either as the rest of the world isn't that far along yet, no 64bit windows, so the full potential isn't reached yet. So my next upgrade will be 64.

[Tormentor]

Ya, waiting for something that long is not worth the improvments it might offer. Everything youve chosen looks great, the ram is a little iffy but looks ok.

[Duffman]

yeah i thought so too but on newegg theres about 80 5 star reviews saying it runs great, ocs great, and is overall great.

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by Duffman3@17 August 2004 - 20:03
yeah i thought so too but on newegg theres about 80 5 star reviews saying it runs great, ocs great, and is overall great.
Well then you cant go wrong with it can you. Does it list the ram timings? Couldnt see any.

[Duffman]

Also how much of a preformance upgrade will i get going fomr a xp1800 w/a 9000pro and 512 of pc2100?

[Tormentor]

The biggest improvment you will see is in games. When comparing my buddies 2500 with mine in normal program use i couldnt really see much of a diffrence to be honest. Exept when running many apps becuase i only have 256mb of ram.

[Duffman]

nice.. also there is about 5 different nf7 boards wich should i go with?

[Tormentor]

Go with the NF7-S ver.2. Make sure it has the nforce 2 chipset.

[Twist3r]

i picked out the exact same stuff of newegg!
:lol:
but i still need 90 bucks ;)

[Duffman]

lol i gotta run to the banl today and make a deposit so i can order it, i can't wait to play swg at more then 1fpm (frame per minute).

[Duffman]

Ok last thing I need is a heatsink any recommendations?

[lynx]

Originally posted by Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 18:32
Ok last thing I need is a heatsink any recommendations?
Yes, definitely get one. :rolleyes:

[Duffman]

alright I will.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 12:36
alright I will.
k then your all set. :)

[Duffman]

I hate you =p

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 11:32
Ok last thing I need is a heatsink any recommendations?
You will already have one when you buy that CPU. It comes with one.

[Duffman]

but will that suffice with the overclocking?

[tesco]

Originally posted by Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 13:59
but will that suffice with the overclocking?
ya it's quite good.

only problem is the 60mm fan is kinda loud so u may want to look into buying an 80mm fan and an 80mm to 60mm fan adaptor.
this combo is super quiet when compared to the default fan.

[Duffman]

ok ill check into it, i think im gonna order tonight.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 14:33
ok ill check into it, i think im gonna order tonight.
B)

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 12:59
but will that suffice with the overclocking?
Yup. Mine runs fine @3200+ with stock heatsink and an 80mm fan with a fan adaptor.

[mr. nails]

no one is buying the amd64 for the os anyway. i have no idea what ppl r thinking. "oh, i'm gonna wait. windows64 isn't out yet". ppl get the amd 64 cuz of it shear power ppl. but, it's ur money. just thought to throw some suggestions.

[Duffman]

its like buying a car because it can go 200mph when theres no place in the world you can over 60 yet, if nothing is using the full potential of the cpu why should i pay for it.

[lynx]

Originally posted by mr. nails@18 August 2004 - 23:51
no one is buying the amd64 for the os anyway. i have no idea what ppl r thinking. "oh, i'm gonna wait. windows64 isn't out yet". ppl get the amd 64 cuz of it shear power ppl. but, it's ur money. just thought to throw some suggestions.
Windows XP pro x64(preview) is available here (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/upgrade.mspx). And it is free for 360 days after installation.

The fact that it is available now but time limited indicates that the retail version will soon be released.

[tesco]

Originally posted by lynx+18 August 2004 - 18:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 18 August 2004 - 18:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mr. nails@18 August 2004 - 23:51
no one is buying the amd64 for the os anyway.&nbsp; i have no idea what ppl r thinking.&nbsp; "oh, i&#39;m gonna wait.&nbsp; windows64 isn&#39;t out yet".&nbsp; ppl get the amd 64 cuz of it shear power ppl.&nbsp; but, it&#39;s ur money.&nbsp; just thought to throw some suggestions.
Windows XP pro x64(preview) is available here (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/upgrade.mspx). And it is free for 360 days after installation.

The fact that it is available now but time limited indicates that the retail version will soon be released. [/b][/quote]
ha lately i&#39;ve been formatting every 2 days so that wouldn&#39;t be a problem for me. :lol:


just gotta get a 64bit cpu though. :unsure:

[lynx]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+19 August 2004 - 00:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 19 August 2004 - 00:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by lynx@18 August 2004 - 18:14
<!--QuoteBegin-mr. nails@18 August 2004 - 23:51
no one is buying the amd64 for the os anyway.&nbsp; i have no idea what ppl r thinking.&nbsp; "oh, i&#39;m gonna wait.&nbsp; windows64 isn&#39;t out yet".&nbsp; ppl get the amd 64 cuz of it shear power ppl.&nbsp; but, it&#39;s ur money.&nbsp; just thought to throw some suggestions.
Windows XP pro x64(preview) is available here (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/upgrade.mspx). And it is free for 360 days after installation.

The fact that it is available now but time limited indicates that the retail version will soon be released.
ha lately i&#39;ve been formatting every 2 days so that wouldn&#39;t be a problem for me. :lol:


just gotta get a 64bit cpu though. :unsure: [/b][/quote]
Why not make a ghost image? Restoring that would be a lot quicker that formatting and re-installing.

[tesco]

Originally posted by lynx+18 August 2004 - 18:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 18 August 2004 - 18:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@19 August 2004 - 00:53

Originally posted by lynx@18 August 2004 - 18:14
<!--QuoteBegin-mr. nails@18 August 2004 - 23:51
no one is buying the amd64 for the os anyway.&nbsp; i have no idea what ppl r thinking.&nbsp; "oh, i&#39;m gonna wait.&nbsp; windows64 isn&#39;t out yet".&nbsp; ppl get the amd 64 cuz of it shear power ppl.&nbsp; but, it&#39;s ur money.&nbsp; just thought to throw some suggestions.
Windows XP pro x64(preview) is available here (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/upgrade.mspx). And it is free for 360 days after installation.

The fact that it is available now but time limited indicates that the retail version will soon be released.
ha lately i&#39;ve been formatting every 2 days so that wouldn&#39;t be a problem for me. :lol:


just gotta get a 64bit cpu though. :unsure:
Why not make a ghost image? Restoring that would be a lot quicker that formatting and re-installing. [/b][/quote]
actually that is what im doing. :P

but still gotta format during the process of restoring it.

[lynx]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@19 August 2004 - 00:57
but still gotta format during the process of restoring it.
Why? :unsure:

Ghost cleans the partition anyway.

[tesco]

Originally posted by lynx+18 August 2004 - 19:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 18 August 2004 - 19:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@19 August 2004 - 00:57
but still gotta format during the process of restoring it.
Why? :unsure:

Ghost cleans the partition anyway. [/b][/quote]
:huh:

ya?

i thoguht it just writes the files back. :unsure:

well anyway that saves about 10 seconds. ;)

[mr. nails]

Originally posted by Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 17:13
its like buying a car because it can go 200mph when theres no place in the world you can over 60 yet, if nothing is using the full potential of the cpu why should i pay for it.
why upgrade to a obsolete cpu/mb when u can pay &#036;100 more and get something that&#39;s twice as fast and upgradable? it&#39;s ok to be ignorant..., just not stupid&#33; <_<

[Duffman]

Originally posted by mr. nails+19 August 2004 - 15:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mr. nails @ 19 August 2004 - 15:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 17:13
its like buying a car because it can go 200mph when theres no place in the world you can over 60 yet, if nothing is using the full potential of the cpu why should i pay for it.
why upgrade to a obsolete cpu/mb when u can pay &#036;100 more and get something that&#39;s twice as fast and upgradable? it&#39;s ok to be ignorant..., just not stupid&#33; <_< [/b][/quote]
stupid? how many times have i said i don&#39;t have that kinda money

[Tormentor]

He must be the one who is stupid.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by mr. nails+19 August 2004 - 14:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mr. nails &#064; 19 August 2004 - 14:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 17:13
its like buying a car because it can go 200mph when theres no place in the world you can over 60 yet, if nothing is using the full potential of the cpu why should i pay for it.
why upgrade to a obsolete cpu/mb when u can pay &#036;100 more and get something that&#39;s twice as fast and upgradable? it&#39;s ok to be ignorant..., just not stupid&#33; <_< [/b][/quote]
Did anyone else notice his system specs?


AMD Tbred 2600+

Running at 166 FSB with Crucial PC3200 RAM ??? :blink: :blink:

What a waste of money on the RAM (not using it to it&#39;s capability).

[kaiweiler]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+19 August 2004 - 18:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 19 August 2004 - 18:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by mr. nails@19 August 2004 - 14:14
<!--QuoteBegin-Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 17:13
its like buying a car because it can go 200mph when theres no place in the world you can over 60 yet, if nothing is using the full potential of the cpu why should i pay for it.
why upgrade to a obsolete cpu/mb when u can pay &#036;100 more and get something that&#39;s twice as fast and upgradable? it&#39;s ok to be ignorant..., just not stupid&#33; <_<
Did anyone else notice his system specs?


AMD Tbred 2600+

Running at 166 FSB with Crucial PC3200 RAM ??? :blink: :blink:

What a waste of money on the RAM (not using it to it&#39;s capability). [/b][/quote]
I think he&#39;s in need of a good L12.....

[mr. nails]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+19 August 2004 - 16:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 19 August 2004 - 16:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by mr. nails@19 August 2004 - 14:14
<!--QuoteBegin-Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 17:13
its like buying a car because it can go 200mph when theres no place in the world you can over 60 yet, if nothing is using the full potential of the cpu why should i pay for it.
why upgrade to a obsolete cpu/mb when u can pay &#036;100 more and get something that&#39;s twice as fast and upgradable? it&#39;s ok to be ignorant..., just not stupid&#33; <_<
Did anyone else notice his system specs?


AMD Tbred 2600+

Running at 166 FSB with Crucial PC3200 RAM ??? :blink: :blink:

What a waste of money on the RAM (not using it to it&#39;s capability). [/b][/quote]
lol, i&#39;m not the one upgrading. he is... :blink:

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by mr. nails+20 August 2004 - 06:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mr. nails @ 20 August 2004 - 06:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@19 August 2004 - 16:21

Originally posted by mr. nails@19 August 2004 - 14:14
<!--QuoteBegin-Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 17:13
its like buying a car because it can go 200mph when theres no place in the world you can over 60 yet, if nothing is using the full potential of the cpu why should i pay for it.
why upgrade to a obsolete cpu/mb when u can pay &#036;100 more and get something that&#39;s twice as fast and upgradable? it&#39;s ok to be ignorant..., just not stupid&#33; <_<
Did anyone else notice his system specs?


AMD Tbred 2600+

Running at 166 FSB with Crucial PC3200 RAM ??? :blink: :blink:

What a waste of money on the RAM (not using it to it&#39;s capability).
lol, i&#39;m not the one upgrading. he is... :blink: [/b][/quote]
Incredible logic. Just incredible.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+20 August 2004 - 07:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 20 August 2004 - 07:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by mr. nails@20 August 2004 - 06:24

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@19 August 2004 - 16:21

Originally posted by mr. nails@19 August 2004 - 14:14
<!--QuoteBegin-Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 17:13
its like buying a car because it can go 200mph when theres no place in the world you can over 60 yet, if nothing is using the full potential of the cpu why should i pay for it.
why upgrade to a obsolete cpu/mb when u can pay &#036;100 more and get something that&#39;s twice as fast and upgradable? it&#39;s ok to be ignorant..., just not stupid&#33; <_<
Did anyone else notice his system specs?


AMD Tbred 2600+

Running at 166 FSB with Crucial PC3200 RAM ??? :blink: :blink:

What a waste of money on the RAM (not using it to it&#39;s capability).
lol, i&#39;m not the one upgrading. he is... :blink:
Incredible logic. Just incredible. [/b][/quote]
my processor is slower than his and i have the same ram. :lol:

thoguht it would be good for when i next upgraded. :rolleyes:

[Duffman]

I feel like im having an argument with a 2 year old.

[mr. nails]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+20 August 2004 - 06:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 20 August 2004 - 06:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by mr. nails@20 August 2004 - 06:24

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@19 August 2004 - 16:21

Originally posted by mr. nails@19 August 2004 - 14:14
<!--QuoteBegin-Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 17:13
its like buying a car because it can go 200mph when theres no place in the world you can over 60 yet, if nothing is using the full potential of the cpu why should i pay for it.
why upgrade to a obsolete cpu/mb when u can pay &#036;100 more and get something that&#39;s twice as fast and upgradable? it&#39;s ok to be ignorant..., just not stupid&#33; <_<
Did anyone else notice his system specs?


AMD Tbred 2600+

Running at 166 FSB with Crucial PC3200 RAM ??? :blink: :blink:

What a waste of money on the RAM (not using it to it&#39;s capability).
lol, i&#39;m not the one upgrading. he is... :blink:
Incredible logic. Just incredible. [/b][/quote]
thank u

[Storm]

Originally posted by mr. nails+21 August 2004 - 11:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mr. nails @ 21 August 2004 - 11:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@20 August 2004 - 06:51

Originally posted by mr. nails@20 August 2004 - 06:24

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@19 August 2004 - 16:21

Originally posted by mr. nails@19 August 2004 - 14:14
<!--QuoteBegin-Duffman3@18 August 2004 - 17:13
its like buying a car because it can go 200mph when theres no place in the world you can over 60 yet, if nothing is using the full potential of the cpu why should i pay for it.
why upgrade to a obsolete cpu/mb when u can pay &#036;100 more and get something that&#39;s twice as fast and upgradable? it&#39;s ok to be ignorant..., just not stupid&#33; <_<
Did anyone else notice his system specs?


AMD Tbred 2600+

Running at 166 FSB with Crucial PC3200 RAM ??? :blink: :blink:

What a waste of money on the RAM (not using it to it&#39;s capability).
lol, i&#39;m not the one upgrading. he is... :blink:
Incredible logic. Just incredible.
thank u [/b][/quote]
whats the point in having good RAM if your gonna run it at obsolete speeds? lol

youz funny........ ;)

anyway, the upgradableness of the 64bit CPU is kinda questionable.......

[mr. nails]

cuz i built my pc be4 the 64 was released and got my cpu off a friend. was gonna just upgrade my cpu lata in time, but now there is a 64 and instead of getting a 400mhz fsb cpu i&#39;m just gonna get a 64 when i do decide to upgrade my machine. if the 64 were available atm i bought my current cpu/mb i would had got it, but it wasn&#39;t. :rolleyes:

[mr. nails]

Originally posted by Storm@21 August 2004 - 07:04
anyway, the upgradableness of the 64bit CPU is kinda questionable.......
why?

[Duffman]

was this new computer all a dream *looks down to make sure*